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Christian Goanet. Religion-bashing & Bigotry
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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 10:27:21 UTC
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In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie Dunnam asks the
questions: ?What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a
part of this church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a
church??

These questions can be aptly directed to Catholics who spare no effort to
attack the Catholic Church/religion/religious beliefs and yet call
themselves Catholics. I wonder to what extent a much sought after ?Goan
Saint? would inspire folks such as these? Or is it a publicity stunt ?all
about seeking name, fame and hype?

Best Wishes,
Joe Vaz
-----------------------------

WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Maxie Dunnam

One day a couple by the name of Herman and Mary were riding along in their
shiny new car. Mary spoke up and said, "You know, Herman, if it weren't for
my money, we probably wouldn't have this wonderful new car." And Herman just
sat there and didn't say anything at all.

As they pulled into the driveway, Herman turned off the motor and they
quietly admired their new home. Then Mary said, "You know, Herman, if it
weren't for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new house." And again,
Herman just sat there and didn't say anything.

They got out of the car and walked in just as the delivery man finished
setting up their new furniture. You know, Herman, said Mary once more, "If
it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new carpet and all
this new furniture." And once more, Herman didn't say a word.

It happened again as they sat down in their new den and propped their feet
up and watched the big screen TV in their new entertainment center. "You
know, Herman," said Mary, "if it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't
have this huge entertainment center."

And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and said, "I
don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a part of this
church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a church?

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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 13:40:26 UTC
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To call Hindus animal worshippers is akin to
saying that Catholics worship wood, because of all the statues in the
churches.
Fred:

Couldn?t you find a better analogy than ? ?Catholics worship(ing) wood,
because of all the statues in the churches.? Is the ?Catholic wood worship?
a new religion according to Fred Noronha?


Rgds,
Joe Vaz

PS: I have respect for all religions and find nothing in any religion to
ridicule. If one doesn?t find the faith in one?s (own) religion that?s fine
? but no one has the right to blatantly abuse any religion.

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Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-05 01:31:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie
Dunnam asks the questions: ?What is it that brings >
you here?

Joe Vaz,
The first commandment is:
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."

I really liked your story about:
"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned
to Mary and said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings,
Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
Arabia is:
Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0





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Edward Verdes
2006-08-07 12:56:59 UTC
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Dear Mervyn,
What you have written is not true!

Secondly, pls note that one does not have to go
to the Church/Temple or Mosque to worship/pray.
God is everywhere.

One does not become a pious Christian if u are in Rome
or a pious Hindu if u are in Mathura or pious Muslim if you are Mecca..
.all that you need to have is a rock solid FAITH.

Dev borem korum
Edward Verdes - KSA

<My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
<Arabia is:
<Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
<contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
<church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
<such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
<follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

<These two questions have troubled me since I was a
<teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0
Edward Verdes
2006-08-07 12:56:59 UTC
Permalink
Dear Mervyn,
What you have written is not true!

Secondly, pls note that one does not have to go
to the Church/Temple or Mosque to worship/pray.
God is everywhere.

One does not become a pious Christian if u are in Rome
or a pious Hindu if u are in Mathura or pious Muslim if you are Mecca..
.all that you need to have is a rock solid FAITH.

Dev borem korum
Edward Verdes - KSA

<My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
<Arabia is:
<Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
<contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
<church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
<such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
<follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

<These two questions have troubled me since I was a
<teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0
Edward Verdes
2006-08-07 12:56:59 UTC
Permalink
Dear Mervyn,
What you have written is not true!

Secondly, pls note that one does not have to go
to the Church/Temple or Mosque to worship/pray.
God is everywhere.

One does not become a pious Christian if u are in Rome
or a pious Hindu if u are in Mathura or pious Muslim if you are Mecca..
.all that you need to have is a rock solid FAITH.

Dev borem korum
Edward Verdes - KSA

<My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
<Arabia is:
<Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
<contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
<church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
<such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
<follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

<These two questions have troubled me since I was a
<teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0
Edward Verdes
2006-08-07 12:56:59 UTC
Permalink
Dear Mervyn,
What you have written is not true!

Secondly, pls note that one does not have to go
to the Church/Temple or Mosque to worship/pray.
God is everywhere.

One does not become a pious Christian if u are in Rome
or a pious Hindu if u are in Mathura or pious Muslim if you are Mecca..
.all that you need to have is a rock solid FAITH.

Dev borem korum
Edward Verdes - KSA

<My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
<Arabia is:
<Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
<contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
<church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
<such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
<follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

<These two questions have troubled me since I was a
<teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0
Edward Verdes
2006-08-07 12:56:59 UTC
Permalink
Dear Mervyn,
What you have written is not true!

Secondly, pls note that one does not have to go
to the Church/Temple or Mosque to worship/pray.
God is everywhere.

One does not become a pious Christian if u are in Rome
or a pious Hindu if u are in Mathura or pious Muslim if you are Mecca..
.all that you need to have is a rock solid FAITH.

Dev borem korum
Edward Verdes - KSA

<My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
<Arabia is:
<Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
<contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
<church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
<such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
<follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

<These two questions have troubled me since I was a
<teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0
Edward Verdes
2006-08-07 12:56:59 UTC
Permalink
Dear Mervyn,
What you have written is not true!

Secondly, pls note that one does not have to go
to the Church/Temple or Mosque to worship/pray.
God is everywhere.

One does not become a pious Christian if u are in Rome
or a pious Hindu if u are in Mathura or pious Muslim if you are Mecca..
.all that you need to have is a rock solid FAITH.

Dev borem korum
Edward Verdes - KSA

<My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
<Arabia is:
<Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
<contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
<church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
<such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
<follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

<These two questions have troubled me since I was a
<teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0
Edward Verdes
2006-08-07 12:56:59 UTC
Permalink
Dear Mervyn,
What you have written is not true!

Secondly, pls note that one does not have to go
to the Church/Temple or Mosque to worship/pray.
God is everywhere.

One does not become a pious Christian if u are in Rome
or a pious Hindu if u are in Mathura or pious Muslim if you are Mecca..
.all that you need to have is a rock solid FAITH.

Dev borem korum
Edward Verdes - KSA

<My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
<Arabia is:
<Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
<contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
<church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
<such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
<follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

<These two questions have troubled me since I was a
<teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0
Radhakrishnan Nair
2006-08-06 10:33:05 UTC
Permalink
<<Mervyn's tormented query: My questions for you or any pious
Christian in S. Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to
signing your contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to such a place? What
attracts you to a place where a follower of Christ cannot go and pray
in the open? These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.>>

Really surprising that you missed the simple answer, Mervyn. It's
there in that story iteself:

"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and
said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it
weren't for your money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

Just replace Mary with Saudi Arabia and you've the answer.

Don't be troubled anymore, Mervyn!

Cheers,
RKN
Joe Vaz
2006-08-06 21:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Mervyn3.0:

My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more countries. What does your
contract allow you to do? There?s no prize for guessing ...

First, you need to learn how to quote the First Commandment. Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at anytime or any place. I
still do! So there?s the answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts. Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that you have
not stopped being a teenager. :-(

Now that I answered both your questions, can you tell us what makes a pious
Christian like you to privately send me several hate-mails? Below is
Mervyn?s admission of knowing the sender of the virus-laden mails:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From : Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>
Sent : Tuesday, August 1, 2006 1:05 AM
To : jfvaz at hotmail.com
Subject : Re: [Goanet] The secret of a goanetter's moral superiority
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe,
Actually I can do better than that.
I can tell you who sent you that virus.
This is not a free service.
Mervyn3.0
----------------------------------------


Joe Vaz

PS: I will try NOT to argue with TEENAGERS.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca> wrote:
-----------------------------------------
Joe Vaz,
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."
My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
:Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR
to signing your contract that you will not be allowed
to worship in a church in S. Arabia, why would one
willingly go to such a place? What attracts you to a place where a follower
of Christ cannot go
and pray in the open?
These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated. Mervyn3.0
==========

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Radhakrishnan Nair
2006-08-09 04:42:07 UTC
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Fred, your discourse with Nasci reminds of that Sanskrit saying about
reciting poetry to a buffalo!

Cheers,
RKN


<<This is a meaningless thread, Nasci is not making any convincing
points, except to use each post to pour scorn on a religion he doesn't
belong to and doesn't think twice before insulting and
misinterpreting.>>
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-08 02:37:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more
countries.
Good for you, Joe. I am especially glad that Saudi was
your top choice from the 14 countries.
Post by Joe Vaz
What does your contract allow you to do?
The short answer is that I do not have a contract. It
seems insane to limit my aspirations to a good
contract.
Post by Joe Vaz
Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at
anytime or any place. I still do! So there?s the
answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts.
I believe you! Now if you can give me the time and
place of mass on the Lord's day, I could pass on the
info to the citizens of Saudi and the Chancellor of
the OBL University.
Post by Joe Vaz
Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that
you have not stopped being a teenager. :-(
What can I say, Joe?
I am different things to different people.
Some get the impression I am retired , others that I
am a teenager.............
Post by Joe Vaz
Now that I answered both your questions, can you
tell us what makes a pious Christian like you to
privately send me several hate-mails?
Er, you are the one who started the hate mails by
publically accusing me of sending you a virus. I could
have easily replied with a public, "So, have you
stopped beating your wife yet?" Instead, I offered to
identify the sender of the virus. Your reply,
essentially, is that it is more to your advantage if I
do not identify the evil perpetrator.

Mervyn3.0
"Actually, evil has little or nothing to do with the
concept of God. The concept of God simply highlights
the difference between good and evil." - Mario Goveia








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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 10:27:21 UTC
Permalink
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie Dunnam asks the
questions: ?What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a
part of this church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a
church??

These questions can be aptly directed to Catholics who spare no effort to
attack the Catholic Church/religion/religious beliefs and yet call
themselves Catholics. I wonder to what extent a much sought after ?Goan
Saint? would inspire folks such as these? Or is it a publicity stunt ?all
about seeking name, fame and hype?

Best Wishes,
Joe Vaz
-----------------------------

WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Maxie Dunnam

One day a couple by the name of Herman and Mary were riding along in their
shiny new car. Mary spoke up and said, "You know, Herman, if it weren't for
my money, we probably wouldn't have this wonderful new car." And Herman just
sat there and didn't say anything at all.

As they pulled into the driveway, Herman turned off the motor and they
quietly admired their new home. Then Mary said, "You know, Herman, if it
weren't for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new house." And again,
Herman just sat there and didn't say anything.

They got out of the car and walked in just as the delivery man finished
setting up their new furniture. You know, Herman, said Mary once more, "If
it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new carpet and all
this new furniture." And once more, Herman didn't say a word.

It happened again as they sat down in their new den and propped their feet
up and watched the big screen TV in their new entertainment center. "You
know, Herman," said Mary, "if it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't
have this huge entertainment center."

And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and said, "I
don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a part of this
church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a church?

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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 13:40:26 UTC
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To call Hindus animal worshippers is akin to
saying that Catholics worship wood, because of all the statues in the
churches.
Fred:

Couldn?t you find a better analogy than ? ?Catholics worship(ing) wood,
because of all the statues in the churches.? Is the ?Catholic wood worship?
a new religion according to Fred Noronha?


Rgds,
Joe Vaz

PS: I have respect for all religions and find nothing in any religion to
ridicule. If one doesn?t find the faith in one?s (own) religion that?s fine
? but no one has the right to blatantly abuse any religion.

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Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-05 01:31:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie
Dunnam asks the questions: ?What is it that brings >
you here?

Joe Vaz,
The first commandment is:
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."

I really liked your story about:
"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned
to Mary and said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings,
Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
Arabia is:
Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0





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Radhakrishnan Nair
2006-08-06 10:33:05 UTC
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<<Mervyn's tormented query: My questions for you or any pious
Christian in S. Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to
signing your contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to such a place? What
attracts you to a place where a follower of Christ cannot go and pray
in the open? These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.>>

Really surprising that you missed the simple answer, Mervyn. It's
there in that story iteself:

"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and
said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it
weren't for your money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

Just replace Mary with Saudi Arabia and you've the answer.

Don't be troubled anymore, Mervyn!

Cheers,
RKN
Joe Vaz
2006-08-06 21:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Mervyn3.0:

My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more countries. What does your
contract allow you to do? There?s no prize for guessing ...

First, you need to learn how to quote the First Commandment. Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at anytime or any place. I
still do! So there?s the answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts. Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that you have
not stopped being a teenager. :-(

Now that I answered both your questions, can you tell us what makes a pious
Christian like you to privately send me several hate-mails? Below is
Mervyn?s admission of knowing the sender of the virus-laden mails:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From : Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>
Sent : Tuesday, August 1, 2006 1:05 AM
To : jfvaz at hotmail.com
Subject : Re: [Goanet] The secret of a goanetter's moral superiority
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe,
Actually I can do better than that.
I can tell you who sent you that virus.
This is not a free service.
Mervyn3.0
----------------------------------------


Joe Vaz

PS: I will try NOT to argue with TEENAGERS.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca> wrote:
-----------------------------------------
Joe Vaz,
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."
My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
:Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR
to signing your contract that you will not be allowed
to worship in a church in S. Arabia, why would one
willingly go to such a place? What attracts you to a place where a follower
of Christ cannot go
and pray in the open?
These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated. Mervyn3.0
==========

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Radhakrishnan Nair
2006-08-09 04:42:07 UTC
Permalink
Fred, your discourse with Nasci reminds of that Sanskrit saying about
reciting poetry to a buffalo!

Cheers,
RKN


<<This is a meaningless thread, Nasci is not making any convincing
points, except to use each post to pour scorn on a religion he doesn't
belong to and doesn't think twice before insulting and
misinterpreting.>>
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-08 02:37:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more
countries.
Good for you, Joe. I am especially glad that Saudi was
your top choice from the 14 countries.
Post by Joe Vaz
What does your contract allow you to do?
The short answer is that I do not have a contract. It
seems insane to limit my aspirations to a good
contract.
Post by Joe Vaz
Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at
anytime or any place. I still do! So there?s the
answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts.
I believe you! Now if you can give me the time and
place of mass on the Lord's day, I could pass on the
info to the citizens of Saudi and the Chancellor of
the OBL University.
Post by Joe Vaz
Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that
you have not stopped being a teenager. :-(
What can I say, Joe?
I am different things to different people.
Some get the impression I am retired , others that I
am a teenager.............
Post by Joe Vaz
Now that I answered both your questions, can you
tell us what makes a pious Christian like you to
privately send me several hate-mails?
Er, you are the one who started the hate mails by
publically accusing me of sending you a virus. I could
have easily replied with a public, "So, have you
stopped beating your wife yet?" Instead, I offered to
identify the sender of the virus. Your reply,
essentially, is that it is more to your advantage if I
do not identify the evil perpetrator.

Mervyn3.0
"Actually, evil has little or nothing to do with the
concept of God. The concept of God simply highlights
the difference between good and evil." - Mario Goveia








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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 10:27:21 UTC
Permalink
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie Dunnam asks the
questions: ?What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a
part of this church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a
church??

These questions can be aptly directed to Catholics who spare no effort to
attack the Catholic Church/religion/religious beliefs and yet call
themselves Catholics. I wonder to what extent a much sought after ?Goan
Saint? would inspire folks such as these? Or is it a publicity stunt ?all
about seeking name, fame and hype?

Best Wishes,
Joe Vaz
-----------------------------

WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Maxie Dunnam

One day a couple by the name of Herman and Mary were riding along in their
shiny new car. Mary spoke up and said, "You know, Herman, if it weren't for
my money, we probably wouldn't have this wonderful new car." And Herman just
sat there and didn't say anything at all.

As they pulled into the driveway, Herman turned off the motor and they
quietly admired their new home. Then Mary said, "You know, Herman, if it
weren't for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new house." And again,
Herman just sat there and didn't say anything.

They got out of the car and walked in just as the delivery man finished
setting up their new furniture. You know, Herman, said Mary once more, "If
it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new carpet and all
this new furniture." And once more, Herman didn't say a word.

It happened again as they sat down in their new den and propped their feet
up and watched the big screen TV in their new entertainment center. "You
know, Herman," said Mary, "if it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't
have this huge entertainment center."

And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and said, "I
don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a part of this
church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a church?

_________________________________________________________________
Spice up your IM conversations. New, colorful and animated emoticons. Get
chatting! http://server1.msn.co.in/SP05/emoticons/
Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 13:40:26 UTC
Permalink
To call Hindus animal worshippers is akin to
saying that Catholics worship wood, because of all the statues in the
churches.
Fred:

Couldn?t you find a better analogy than ? ?Catholics worship(ing) wood,
because of all the statues in the churches.? Is the ?Catholic wood worship?
a new religion according to Fred Noronha?


Rgds,
Joe Vaz

PS: I have respect for all religions and find nothing in any religion to
ridicule. If one doesn?t find the faith in one?s (own) religion that?s fine
? but no one has the right to blatantly abuse any religion.

_________________________________________________________________
Who will win Bollywood?s most coveted IIFA awards? You decide! Cast your
vote! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp06/IIFA2006/static/weekend.asp
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-05 01:31:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie
Dunnam asks the questions: ?What is it that brings >
you here?

Joe Vaz,
The first commandment is:
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."

I really liked your story about:
"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned
to Mary and said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings,
Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
Arabia is:
Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0





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Radhakrishnan Nair
2006-08-06 10:33:05 UTC
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<<Mervyn's tormented query: My questions for you or any pious
Christian in S. Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to
signing your contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to such a place? What
attracts you to a place where a follower of Christ cannot go and pray
in the open? These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.>>

Really surprising that you missed the simple answer, Mervyn. It's
there in that story iteself:

"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and
said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it
weren't for your money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

Just replace Mary with Saudi Arabia and you've the answer.

Don't be troubled anymore, Mervyn!

Cheers,
RKN
Joe Vaz
2006-08-06 21:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Mervyn3.0:

My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more countries. What does your
contract allow you to do? There?s no prize for guessing ...

First, you need to learn how to quote the First Commandment. Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at anytime or any place. I
still do! So there?s the answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts. Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that you have
not stopped being a teenager. :-(

Now that I answered both your questions, can you tell us what makes a pious
Christian like you to privately send me several hate-mails? Below is
Mervyn?s admission of knowing the sender of the virus-laden mails:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From : Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>
Sent : Tuesday, August 1, 2006 1:05 AM
To : jfvaz at hotmail.com
Subject : Re: [Goanet] The secret of a goanetter's moral superiority
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe,
Actually I can do better than that.
I can tell you who sent you that virus.
This is not a free service.
Mervyn3.0
----------------------------------------


Joe Vaz

PS: I will try NOT to argue with TEENAGERS.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca> wrote:
-----------------------------------------
Joe Vaz,
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."
My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
:Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR
to signing your contract that you will not be allowed
to worship in a church in S. Arabia, why would one
willingly go to such a place? What attracts you to a place where a follower
of Christ cannot go
and pray in the open?
These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated. Mervyn3.0
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2006-08-09 04:42:07 UTC
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Fred, your discourse with Nasci reminds of that Sanskrit saying about
reciting poetry to a buffalo!

Cheers,
RKN


<<This is a meaningless thread, Nasci is not making any convincing
points, except to use each post to pour scorn on a religion he doesn't
belong to and doesn't think twice before insulting and
misinterpreting.>>
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-08 02:37:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more
countries.
Good for you, Joe. I am especially glad that Saudi was
your top choice from the 14 countries.
Post by Joe Vaz
What does your contract allow you to do?
The short answer is that I do not have a contract. It
seems insane to limit my aspirations to a good
contract.
Post by Joe Vaz
Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at
anytime or any place. I still do! So there?s the
answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts.
I believe you! Now if you can give me the time and
place of mass on the Lord's day, I could pass on the
info to the citizens of Saudi and the Chancellor of
the OBL University.
Post by Joe Vaz
Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that
you have not stopped being a teenager. :-(
What can I say, Joe?
I am different things to different people.
Some get the impression I am retired , others that I
am a teenager.............
Post by Joe Vaz
Now that I answered both your questions, can you
tell us what makes a pious Christian like you to
privately send me several hate-mails?
Er, you are the one who started the hate mails by
publically accusing me of sending you a virus. I could
have easily replied with a public, "So, have you
stopped beating your wife yet?" Instead, I offered to
identify the sender of the virus. Your reply,
essentially, is that it is more to your advantage if I
do not identify the evil perpetrator.

Mervyn3.0
"Actually, evil has little or nothing to do with the
concept of God. The concept of God simply highlights
the difference between good and evil." - Mario Goveia








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2006-08-04 10:27:21 UTC
Permalink
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie Dunnam asks the
questions: ?What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a
part of this church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a
church??

These questions can be aptly directed to Catholics who spare no effort to
attack the Catholic Church/religion/religious beliefs and yet call
themselves Catholics. I wonder to what extent a much sought after ?Goan
Saint? would inspire folks such as these? Or is it a publicity stunt ?all
about seeking name, fame and hype?

Best Wishes,
Joe Vaz
-----------------------------

WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Maxie Dunnam

One day a couple by the name of Herman and Mary were riding along in their
shiny new car. Mary spoke up and said, "You know, Herman, if it weren't for
my money, we probably wouldn't have this wonderful new car." And Herman just
sat there and didn't say anything at all.

As they pulled into the driveway, Herman turned off the motor and they
quietly admired their new home. Then Mary said, "You know, Herman, if it
weren't for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new house." And again,
Herman just sat there and didn't say anything.

They got out of the car and walked in just as the delivery man finished
setting up their new furniture. You know, Herman, said Mary once more, "If
it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new carpet and all
this new furniture." And once more, Herman didn't say a word.

It happened again as they sat down in their new den and propped their feet
up and watched the big screen TV in their new entertainment center. "You
know, Herman," said Mary, "if it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't
have this huge entertainment center."

And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and said, "I
don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a part of this
church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a church?

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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 13:40:26 UTC
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To call Hindus animal worshippers is akin to
saying that Catholics worship wood, because of all the statues in the
churches.
Fred:

Couldn?t you find a better analogy than ? ?Catholics worship(ing) wood,
because of all the statues in the churches.? Is the ?Catholic wood worship?
a new religion according to Fred Noronha?


Rgds,
Joe Vaz

PS: I have respect for all religions and find nothing in any religion to
ridicule. If one doesn?t find the faith in one?s (own) religion that?s fine
? but no one has the right to blatantly abuse any religion.

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Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-05 01:31:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie
Dunnam asks the questions: ?What is it that brings >
you here?

Joe Vaz,
The first commandment is:
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."

I really liked your story about:
"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned
to Mary and said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings,
Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
Arabia is:
Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0





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Radhakrishnan Nair
2006-08-06 10:33:05 UTC
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<<Mervyn's tormented query: My questions for you or any pious
Christian in S. Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to
signing your contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to such a place? What
attracts you to a place where a follower of Christ cannot go and pray
in the open? These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.>>

Really surprising that you missed the simple answer, Mervyn. It's
there in that story iteself:

"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and
said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it
weren't for your money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

Just replace Mary with Saudi Arabia and you've the answer.

Don't be troubled anymore, Mervyn!

Cheers,
RKN
Joe Vaz
2006-08-06 21:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Mervyn3.0:

My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more countries. What does your
contract allow you to do? There?s no prize for guessing ...

First, you need to learn how to quote the First Commandment. Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at anytime or any place. I
still do! So there?s the answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts. Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that you have
not stopped being a teenager. :-(

Now that I answered both your questions, can you tell us what makes a pious
Christian like you to privately send me several hate-mails? Below is
Mervyn?s admission of knowing the sender of the virus-laden mails:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From : Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>
Sent : Tuesday, August 1, 2006 1:05 AM
To : jfvaz at hotmail.com
Subject : Re: [Goanet] The secret of a goanetter's moral superiority
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe,
Actually I can do better than that.
I can tell you who sent you that virus.
This is not a free service.
Mervyn3.0
----------------------------------------


Joe Vaz

PS: I will try NOT to argue with TEENAGERS.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca> wrote:
-----------------------------------------
Joe Vaz,
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."
My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
:Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR
to signing your contract that you will not be allowed
to worship in a church in S. Arabia, why would one
willingly go to such a place? What attracts you to a place where a follower
of Christ cannot go
and pray in the open?
These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated. Mervyn3.0
==========

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2006-08-09 04:42:07 UTC
Permalink
Fred, your discourse with Nasci reminds of that Sanskrit saying about
reciting poetry to a buffalo!

Cheers,
RKN


<<This is a meaningless thread, Nasci is not making any convincing
points, except to use each post to pour scorn on a religion he doesn't
belong to and doesn't think twice before insulting and
misinterpreting.>>
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-08 02:37:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more
countries.
Good for you, Joe. I am especially glad that Saudi was
your top choice from the 14 countries.
Post by Joe Vaz
What does your contract allow you to do?
The short answer is that I do not have a contract. It
seems insane to limit my aspirations to a good
contract.
Post by Joe Vaz
Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at
anytime or any place. I still do! So there?s the
answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts.
I believe you! Now if you can give me the time and
place of mass on the Lord's day, I could pass on the
info to the citizens of Saudi and the Chancellor of
the OBL University.
Post by Joe Vaz
Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that
you have not stopped being a teenager. :-(
What can I say, Joe?
I am different things to different people.
Some get the impression I am retired , others that I
am a teenager.............
Post by Joe Vaz
Now that I answered both your questions, can you
tell us what makes a pious Christian like you to
privately send me several hate-mails?
Er, you are the one who started the hate mails by
publically accusing me of sending you a virus. I could
have easily replied with a public, "So, have you
stopped beating your wife yet?" Instead, I offered to
identify the sender of the virus. Your reply,
essentially, is that it is more to your advantage if I
do not identify the evil perpetrator.

Mervyn3.0
"Actually, evil has little or nothing to do with the
concept of God. The concept of God simply highlights
the difference between good and evil." - Mario Goveia








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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 10:27:21 UTC
Permalink
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie Dunnam asks the
questions: ?What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a
part of this church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a
church??

These questions can be aptly directed to Catholics who spare no effort to
attack the Catholic Church/religion/religious beliefs and yet call
themselves Catholics. I wonder to what extent a much sought after ?Goan
Saint? would inspire folks such as these? Or is it a publicity stunt ?all
about seeking name, fame and hype?

Best Wishes,
Joe Vaz
-----------------------------

WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Maxie Dunnam

One day a couple by the name of Herman and Mary were riding along in their
shiny new car. Mary spoke up and said, "You know, Herman, if it weren't for
my money, we probably wouldn't have this wonderful new car." And Herman just
sat there and didn't say anything at all.

As they pulled into the driveway, Herman turned off the motor and they
quietly admired their new home. Then Mary said, "You know, Herman, if it
weren't for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new house." And again,
Herman just sat there and didn't say anything.

They got out of the car and walked in just as the delivery man finished
setting up their new furniture. You know, Herman, said Mary once more, "If
it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new carpet and all
this new furniture." And once more, Herman didn't say a word.

It happened again as they sat down in their new den and propped their feet
up and watched the big screen TV in their new entertainment center. "You
know, Herman," said Mary, "if it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't
have this huge entertainment center."

And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and said, "I
don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a part of this
church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a church?

_________________________________________________________________
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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 13:40:26 UTC
Permalink
To call Hindus animal worshippers is akin to
saying that Catholics worship wood, because of all the statues in the
churches.
Fred:

Couldn?t you find a better analogy than ? ?Catholics worship(ing) wood,
because of all the statues in the churches.? Is the ?Catholic wood worship?
a new religion according to Fred Noronha?


Rgds,
Joe Vaz

PS: I have respect for all religions and find nothing in any religion to
ridicule. If one doesn?t find the faith in one?s (own) religion that?s fine
? but no one has the right to blatantly abuse any religion.

_________________________________________________________________
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vote! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp06/IIFA2006/static/weekend.asp
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-05 01:31:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie
Dunnam asks the questions: ?What is it that brings >
you here?

Joe Vaz,
The first commandment is:
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."

I really liked your story about:
"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned
to Mary and said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings,
Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
Arabia is:
Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0





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Radhakrishnan Nair
2006-08-06 10:33:05 UTC
Permalink
<<Mervyn's tormented query: My questions for you or any pious
Christian in S. Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to
signing your contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to such a place? What
attracts you to a place where a follower of Christ cannot go and pray
in the open? These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.>>

Really surprising that you missed the simple answer, Mervyn. It's
there in that story iteself:

"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and
said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it
weren't for your money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

Just replace Mary with Saudi Arabia and you've the answer.

Don't be troubled anymore, Mervyn!

Cheers,
RKN
Joe Vaz
2006-08-06 21:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Mervyn3.0:

My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more countries. What does your
contract allow you to do? There?s no prize for guessing ...

First, you need to learn how to quote the First Commandment. Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at anytime or any place. I
still do! So there?s the answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts. Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that you have
not stopped being a teenager. :-(

Now that I answered both your questions, can you tell us what makes a pious
Christian like you to privately send me several hate-mails? Below is
Mervyn?s admission of knowing the sender of the virus-laden mails:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From : Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>
Sent : Tuesday, August 1, 2006 1:05 AM
To : jfvaz at hotmail.com
Subject : Re: [Goanet] The secret of a goanetter's moral superiority
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe,
Actually I can do better than that.
I can tell you who sent you that virus.
This is not a free service.
Mervyn3.0
----------------------------------------


Joe Vaz

PS: I will try NOT to argue with TEENAGERS.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca> wrote:
-----------------------------------------
Joe Vaz,
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."
My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
:Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR
to signing your contract that you will not be allowed
to worship in a church in S. Arabia, why would one
willingly go to such a place? What attracts you to a place where a follower
of Christ cannot go
and pray in the open?
These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated. Mervyn3.0
==========

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Radhakrishnan Nair
2006-08-09 04:42:07 UTC
Permalink
Fred, your discourse with Nasci reminds of that Sanskrit saying about
reciting poetry to a buffalo!

Cheers,
RKN


<<This is a meaningless thread, Nasci is not making any convincing
points, except to use each post to pour scorn on a religion he doesn't
belong to and doesn't think twice before insulting and
misinterpreting.>>
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-08 02:37:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more
countries.
Good for you, Joe. I am especially glad that Saudi was
your top choice from the 14 countries.
Post by Joe Vaz
What does your contract allow you to do?
The short answer is that I do not have a contract. It
seems insane to limit my aspirations to a good
contract.
Post by Joe Vaz
Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at
anytime or any place. I still do! So there?s the
answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts.
I believe you! Now if you can give me the time and
place of mass on the Lord's day, I could pass on the
info to the citizens of Saudi and the Chancellor of
the OBL University.
Post by Joe Vaz
Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that
you have not stopped being a teenager. :-(
What can I say, Joe?
I am different things to different people.
Some get the impression I am retired , others that I
am a teenager.............
Post by Joe Vaz
Now that I answered both your questions, can you
tell us what makes a pious Christian like you to
privately send me several hate-mails?
Er, you are the one who started the hate mails by
publically accusing me of sending you a virus. I could
have easily replied with a public, "So, have you
stopped beating your wife yet?" Instead, I offered to
identify the sender of the virus. Your reply,
essentially, is that it is more to your advantage if I
do not identify the evil perpetrator.

Mervyn3.0
"Actually, evil has little or nothing to do with the
concept of God. The concept of God simply highlights
the difference between good and evil." - Mario Goveia








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Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 10:27:21 UTC
Permalink
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie Dunnam asks the
questions: ?What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a
part of this church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a
church??

These questions can be aptly directed to Catholics who spare no effort to
attack the Catholic Church/religion/religious beliefs and yet call
themselves Catholics. I wonder to what extent a much sought after ?Goan
Saint? would inspire folks such as these? Or is it a publicity stunt ?all
about seeking name, fame and hype?

Best Wishes,
Joe Vaz
-----------------------------

WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Maxie Dunnam

One day a couple by the name of Herman and Mary were riding along in their
shiny new car. Mary spoke up and said, "You know, Herman, if it weren't for
my money, we probably wouldn't have this wonderful new car." And Herman just
sat there and didn't say anything at all.

As they pulled into the driveway, Herman turned off the motor and they
quietly admired their new home. Then Mary said, "You know, Herman, if it
weren't for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new house." And again,
Herman just sat there and didn't say anything.

They got out of the car and walked in just as the delivery man finished
setting up their new furniture. You know, Herman, said Mary once more, "If
it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new carpet and all
this new furniture." And once more, Herman didn't say a word.

It happened again as they sat down in their new den and propped their feet
up and watched the big screen TV in their new entertainment center. "You
know, Herman," said Mary, "if it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't
have this huge entertainment center."

And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and said, "I
don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a part of this
church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a church?

_________________________________________________________________
Spice up your IM conversations. New, colorful and animated emoticons. Get
chatting! http://server1.msn.co.in/SP05/emoticons/
Joe Vaz
2006-08-04 13:40:26 UTC
Permalink
To call Hindus animal worshippers is akin to
saying that Catholics worship wood, because of all the statues in the
churches.
Fred:

Couldn?t you find a better analogy than ? ?Catholics worship(ing) wood,
because of all the statues in the churches.? Is the ?Catholic wood worship?
a new religion according to Fred Noronha?


Rgds,
Joe Vaz

PS: I have respect for all religions and find nothing in any religion to
ridicule. If one doesn?t find the faith in one?s (own) religion that?s fine
? but no one has the right to blatantly abuse any religion.

_________________________________________________________________
Who will win Bollywood?s most coveted IIFA awards? You decide! Cast your
vote! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp06/IIFA2006/static/weekend.asp
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-05 01:31:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie
Dunnam asks the questions: ?What is it that brings >
you here?

Joe Vaz,
The first commandment is:
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."

I really liked your story about:
"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned
to Mary and said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings,
Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
Arabia is:
Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0





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2006-08-06 10:33:05 UTC
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<<Mervyn's tormented query: My questions for you or any pious
Christian in S. Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to
signing your contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to such a place? What
attracts you to a place where a follower of Christ cannot go and pray
in the open? These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.>>

Really surprising that you missed the simple answer, Mervyn. It's
there in that story iteself:

"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and
said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it
weren't for your money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

Just replace Mary with Saudi Arabia and you've the answer.

Don't be troubled anymore, Mervyn!

Cheers,
RKN
Joe Vaz
2006-08-06 21:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Mervyn3.0:

My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more countries. What does your
contract allow you to do? There?s no prize for guessing ...

First, you need to learn how to quote the First Commandment. Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at anytime or any place. I
still do! So there?s the answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts. Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that you have
not stopped being a teenager. :-(

Now that I answered both your questions, can you tell us what makes a pious
Christian like you to privately send me several hate-mails? Below is
Mervyn?s admission of knowing the sender of the virus-laden mails:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From : Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>
Sent : Tuesday, August 1, 2006 1:05 AM
To : jfvaz at hotmail.com
Subject : Re: [Goanet] The secret of a goanetter's moral superiority
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe,
Actually I can do better than that.
I can tell you who sent you that virus.
This is not a free service.
Mervyn3.0
----------------------------------------


Joe Vaz

PS: I will try NOT to argue with TEENAGERS.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca> wrote:
-----------------------------------------
Joe Vaz,
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."
My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
:Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR
to signing your contract that you will not be allowed
to worship in a church in S. Arabia, why would one
willingly go to such a place? What attracts you to a place where a follower
of Christ cannot go
and pray in the open?
These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated. Mervyn3.0
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2006-08-09 04:42:07 UTC
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Fred, your discourse with Nasci reminds of that Sanskrit saying about
reciting poetry to a buffalo!

Cheers,
RKN


<<This is a meaningless thread, Nasci is not making any convincing
points, except to use each post to pour scorn on a religion he doesn't
belong to and doesn't think twice before insulting and
misinterpreting.>>
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-08 02:37:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more
countries.
Good for you, Joe. I am especially glad that Saudi was
your top choice from the 14 countries.
Post by Joe Vaz
What does your contract allow you to do?
The short answer is that I do not have a contract. It
seems insane to limit my aspirations to a good
contract.
Post by Joe Vaz
Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at
anytime or any place. I still do! So there?s the
answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts.
I believe you! Now if you can give me the time and
place of mass on the Lord's day, I could pass on the
info to the citizens of Saudi and the Chancellor of
the OBL University.
Post by Joe Vaz
Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that
you have not stopped being a teenager. :-(
What can I say, Joe?
I am different things to different people.
Some get the impression I am retired , others that I
am a teenager.............
Post by Joe Vaz
Now that I answered both your questions, can you
tell us what makes a pious Christian like you to
privately send me several hate-mails?
Er, you are the one who started the hate mails by
publically accusing me of sending you a virus. I could
have easily replied with a public, "So, have you
stopped beating your wife yet?" Instead, I offered to
identify the sender of the virus. Your reply,
essentially, is that it is more to your advantage if I
do not identify the evil perpetrator.

Mervyn3.0
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concept of God. The concept of God simply highlights
the difference between good and evil." - Mario Goveia








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2006-08-04 10:27:21 UTC
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In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie Dunnam asks the
questions: ?What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a
part of this church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a
church??

These questions can be aptly directed to Catholics who spare no effort to
attack the Catholic Church/religion/religious beliefs and yet call
themselves Catholics. I wonder to what extent a much sought after ?Goan
Saint? would inspire folks such as these? Or is it a publicity stunt ?all
about seeking name, fame and hype?

Best Wishes,
Joe Vaz
-----------------------------

WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Maxie Dunnam

One day a couple by the name of Herman and Mary were riding along in their
shiny new car. Mary spoke up and said, "You know, Herman, if it weren't for
my money, we probably wouldn't have this wonderful new car." And Herman just
sat there and didn't say anything at all.

As they pulled into the driveway, Herman turned off the motor and they
quietly admired their new home. Then Mary said, "You know, Herman, if it
weren't for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new house." And again,
Herman just sat there and didn't say anything.

They got out of the car and walked in just as the delivery man finished
setting up their new furniture. You know, Herman, said Mary once more, "If
it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't have this new carpet and all
this new furniture." And once more, Herman didn't say a word.

It happened again as they sat down in their new den and propped their feet
up and watched the big screen TV in their new entertainment center. "You
know, Herman," said Mary, "if it were not for my money, we probably wouldn't
have this huge entertainment center."

And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and said, "I
don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

What is it that brings you here? Why did you choose to become a part of this
church? If you are not a member, what are you looking for in a church?

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2006-08-04 13:40:26 UTC
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To call Hindus animal worshippers is akin to
saying that Catholics worship wood, because of all the statues in the
churches.
Fred:

Couldn?t you find a better analogy than ? ?Catholics worship(ing) wood,
because of all the statues in the churches.? Is the ?Catholic wood worship?
a new religion according to Fred Noronha?


Rgds,
Joe Vaz

PS: I have respect for all religions and find nothing in any religion to
ridicule. If one doesn?t find the faith in one?s (own) religion that?s fine
? but no one has the right to blatantly abuse any religion.

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2006-08-05 01:31:06 UTC
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Post by Joe Vaz
In a rather humorous story ?WHY ARE YOU HERE? Maxie
Dunnam asks the questions: ?What is it that brings >
you here?

Joe Vaz,
The first commandment is:
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."

I really liked your story about:
"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned
to Mary and said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings,
Honey, but you know if it weren't for your
money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
Arabia is:
Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to signing your
contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to
such a place? What attracts you to a place where a
follower of Christ cannot go and pray in the open?

These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.

Mervyn3.0





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2006-08-06 10:33:05 UTC
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<<Mervyn's tormented query: My questions for you or any pious
Christian in S. Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR to
signing your contract that you will not be allowed to worship in a
church in S. Arabia, why would one willingly go to such a place? What
attracts you to a place where a follower of Christ cannot go and pray
in the open? These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated.>>

Really surprising that you missed the simple answer, Mervyn. It's
there in that story iteself:

"And with that, poor Herman had had enough. He turned to Mary and
said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings, Honey, but you know if it
weren't for your money, I probably wouldn't be here either!"

Just replace Mary with Saudi Arabia and you've the answer.

Don't be troubled anymore, Mervyn!

Cheers,
RKN
Joe Vaz
2006-08-06 21:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Mervyn3.0:

My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more countries. What does your
contract allow you to do? There?s no prize for guessing ...

First, you need to learn how to quote the First Commandment. Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at anytime or any place. I
still do! So there?s the answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts. Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that you have
not stopped being a teenager. :-(

Now that I answered both your questions, can you tell us what makes a pious
Christian like you to privately send me several hate-mails? Below is
Mervyn?s admission of knowing the sender of the virus-laden mails:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From : Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>
Sent : Tuesday, August 1, 2006 1:05 AM
To : jfvaz at hotmail.com
Subject : Re: [Goanet] The secret of a goanetter's moral superiority
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe,
Actually I can do better than that.
I can tell you who sent you that virus.
This is not a free service.
Mervyn3.0
----------------------------------------


Joe Vaz

PS: I will try NOT to argue with TEENAGERS.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca> wrote:
-----------------------------------------
Joe Vaz,
I am the Lord your God, do not have false Gods above
me."
My questions for you or any pious Christian in S.
:Arabia is: Since you are told very clearly PRIOR
to signing your contract that you will not be allowed
to worship in a church in S. Arabia, why would one
willingly go to such a place? What attracts you to a place where a follower
of Christ cannot go
and pray in the open?
These two questions have troubled me since I was a
teenager. Any help/views will be appreciated. Mervyn3.0
==========

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2006-08-09 04:42:07 UTC
Permalink
Fred, your discourse with Nasci reminds of that Sanskrit saying about
reciting poetry to a buffalo!

Cheers,
RKN


<<This is a meaningless thread, Nasci is not making any convincing
points, except to use each post to pour scorn on a religion he doesn't
belong to and doesn't think twice before insulting and
misinterpreting.>>
Mervyn Lobo
2006-08-08 02:37:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe Vaz
My contract allows me to work in at least 14 more
countries.
Good for you, Joe. I am especially glad that Saudi was
your top choice from the 14 countries.
Post by Joe Vaz
What does your contract allow you to do?
The short answer is that I do not have a contract. It
seems insane to limit my aspirations to a good
contract.
Post by Joe Vaz
Secondly, no
one has stopped me from worshiping in a Church, at
anytime or any place. I still do! So there?s the
answers to your two questions. You are dead wrong
on both counts.
I believe you! Now if you can give me the time and
place of mass on the Lord's day, I could pass on the
info to the citizens of Saudi and the Chancellor of
the OBL University.
Post by Joe Vaz
Finally, the only thing I agree with you is that
you have not stopped being a teenager. :-(
What can I say, Joe?
I am different things to different people.
Some get the impression I am retired , others that I
am a teenager.............
Post by Joe Vaz
Now that I answered both your questions, can you
tell us what makes a pious Christian like you to
privately send me several hate-mails?
Er, you are the one who started the hate mails by
publically accusing me of sending you a virus. I could
have easily replied with a public, "So, have you
stopped beating your wife yet?" Instead, I offered to
identify the sender of the virus. Your reply,
essentially, is that it is more to your advantage if I
do not identify the evil perpetrator.

Mervyn3.0
"Actually, evil has little or nothing to do with the
concept of God. The concept of God simply highlights
the difference between good and evil." - Mario Goveia








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