Discussion:
Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
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marshallmendonza
2008-08-03 12:01:40 UTC
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George Pinto wrote:
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?

Comment:
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on one of the best public faces who galvanised the people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).The others left behind have to bear the brunt. Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.

Regards,

Marshall
By A Staff Reporter
reporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)
have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar
Rebello.
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 18:15:20 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished
his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).
The others left behind have to bear the brunt.
Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.
You have the wrong end of the stick. Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.
I am under no such compulsion. I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-03 21:20:22 UTC
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Dears,
?
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate. However, Oscar Rebelo's language is no less flowery or peppered with expletives ... even at formal GBA meetings .... than Rajan's in private emails. I do not know if that was a part of their common school culture. His resigning as the Convener of the GBA is his personal loss, not of the GBA.
?
Admitted that Oscar was the smiling face of the GBA that reflected the emotion of the people's movement for the first three months of the agitiation. He apparently fell victim to the Goebbelian dictum and began to believe that Oscar is the GBA and GBA is Oscar. That has happened before. "L'Etat est moi!" was said? two centuries ago?and "India is Indira and Indira is India" was the slogan when Oscar was still outgrowing his diapers. Delusions are not rare at the top.
?
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed on the repeal of the amended?Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act,1974, and to prevent a Regional Plan for Goa that is not PARTICIPATORY in its spatial planning or Land Use Planning. There is a 36 crore land sale deed for 2.5 lakh sq. m. land in Survey No 139 Tansi at Canancona that was registered on Friday and needs to be cancelled. If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
?
No man is as important as the protection of Goa from its final destruction a la Ibn Batuta at the start of the 14th Century Anno Domini.
?
Mog asundi.
?
Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
Message-ID: <584392.20528.qm at web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. .
You have the wrong end of the stick.? Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.?
I am under no such compulsion.? I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,
r

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:36 +0530
From: "soter" <soter at bsnl.in>
Subject: [Goanet] Watch out for draft RP 2021
Message-ID: 783A0761C3414310BAB127002A5DC36D at desi

There is all possibility that the draft? Regional Plan 2021 will be out any moment as the crisis within GBA was foreseen by some of us as part of the masterplan in order to blunt the opposition just before this plan is out. The betrayal was expected by many of us goans. The people of Goa have to gear up to resist the RP 2021 which is expected to be nothing better than a repackaged RP 2011 by the very same builder and real estate mafia. This RP 2021 will have all the potentiality for a final assault on the ecology and the people of? Goa.??????WATCH OUT GOANS!

-soter d'souza





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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 23:02:17 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate.
Gee, I'm shattered, dude. Imagine not being able to
bask in the shadow of your distinguished, CbC (Certified-by-Cecil)
being. I guess with this devastating blow, I should
cast off my mortal coil.


Regards,


r
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 02:01:50 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
.
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-04 16:58:18 UTC
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Dear Rajan,

Why do you have to persist in being malaprop: EPIPHANY is about revelation to Gentiles, I was born in a Christian family and raised as a Christian. Hence I am a non-gentile.

I opposed the Youth For Goa or YFG after it was hijacked by Malisa Simoes [aka Soglich MALIS Astana] to sub-serve the BJP with the GSF turned BJP Youth Durgadas Kamath and the inimitable Shahana Nayak, both of them migrant neo-Goans, a tribe you routinely criticise unless they are rich. Where is the YFG today, Rajan Bhaiya??

I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly [its abbreviation, GPA, mimics GBA almost as closely as Manohar-bab's, GDA, the short-lived Goa Democratic Alliance of July, 2007, that has let its first death anniversay pass without any memorial service while Babush is like a virgin ...on the VERGE but yet not IN the Digu-kaka cabinet.;-) ] Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains as Floriano Lobo revealed Dr. U.G. Barad and Mr. Srinvivas Kamat in his vote of thanks on behalf of the CITIZENS' INITIATIVE on the Goa University debate. Dr. Jayant Budkuley and Prof. Madhav S.Kamat [of Mauvin boot polishing team] also stand exposed. Floriano Lobo publicly apologised for his error in judgement. That is something you will NEVER be able to do in public.

Speaking of GPA, whatever happened to Ms. Hema Sardesai's threat to go on a fast unto death? Was that another FAST one, too? It is a long time since 16 June, 2008 ..... One MONTH and 18 days to be exact. When is the farce ...oops...fast, going to begin. I hope she can do it BEFORE the monsoon session of the Goa Assembly begins on 18 August, 2008.

A fast during SHRAVAN is also good. It makes one feel nice on the fourth day on Bhadrapada when one celebrates the lord of good times and peace, Ganesh, the son of Parvati and foster son of the great Shiv. I hope I have my Indian mythology correct this time. Please correct me if I am wrong. Of course, it is possible that Hema might not be practicing Hinduism after marriage to a "Battlo". She is one of us now. GOA ZAI? Singing is not enough. It is one thing to make presentations and speeches in the air-conditioned ambience of Hotel Mandovi, another to go on a hunger strike at Azad Maidan or Lohia Maidan.


Which reminds me of a verse from Dr. ManoharRai Sardessai's poem dedicated to the Satyagraha of 18 June, 1946.

"Kitle oxe aile ghele
Otthra Jun! ...
Ambea mullant kuddkuddtta
Gavddeacho por ozun!"

Since you so love to use French, I will place here the translation/rendition in French by Dr.Anuradha Wagle [Dept of French, Goa University], courtesy the book "My Song . Ma Chanson. O Meu Canto" [New Age Printers, Verna, Goa.Pages 180. Price Rs.250/-]

"Depuis, ce jour est revenu tant de fois:
Le 18 Juin! ....
Mais aujourd'hui encore le pauvre petit garcon gavddi
Sanglote sous le manguier"

The book is available at Vasha Book Stall and St. Paul's Books in Panaji, if one wants to read Dr. ManoharRai's poems in English, French or Portuguese. Original Konkani poems are available separately from other publishers at Goa Konkani Academy, Patto, Panaji.

Matanhy's anti-SEZ movement was openly linked to the BJP even during the Lok Sabha by-elections. It should be enough to enlighten you if you analyse why Manohar Parrikar lost his voice in the Goa Assembly on 25 March, 2008 and let the Goa TCP [Amendment] Act, 2008 pass UNOPPOSED .... changing Sections 16 and 16A of the Principal Act TCP Act, 1974. He claims the Govt gave only 48 hours notice of the Bill. Did he not read the Ordinance of the same title dated 29 February, 2008 and published in the Official Gazette of 05 March, 2008. If not, what sort of opposition party is the BJP?

We will know what the BJP does about the promised PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL to revoke the Goa TCP[Amendment] Act, 2008, in the upcoming session. The notice of the Bill should have gone by today as it needs 15 days notice ...and Private member's "Bills" will be taken up only on FRIDAYS 22 and 29 August, 2008 ....unless the Digamber Govt. decides to curtail the session as it did in January, 2008. Only 22 August is a sure date. The notice, with the DATE on the covering letter must reach the Legislature Department not later than 06 August, 2008 for that to happen.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: goanet at goanet.org
Message-ID: <255008.7044.qm at web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r



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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 17:42:40 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts
earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains
Who were these "other men behind the curtains"? You
must have a good deal of experience about men
"behind the curtains" given how your confrere used
a fake ID on Goanet to snipe at others and then got
found out.

And what is there to "reveal" about Dr. Anil Desai? He
was, still is, solidly behind the Goa People's Assembly.
In fact, it was he who mooted the idea of this public
forum and encouraged Soter and I to implement it.
He paid for half of the expenses of the June 16
event. He also sent a projector from London so that
I could hold shows of "The Rape of Goa" all over Goa.
What more would you like to know? Do you want
scans of the bills for Hotel Mandovi and Seby Sound?
After that, what else? A peep into our private bank
accounts?

You made the public allegation that the Goa People's
Assembly was a secret Manohar Parrikar and/or BJP
operation. Provide evidence for it. Other than your
babble, you have NOTHING - nada, zifr, zilch - to
back up that charge.

I asked you to present evidence for your charges,
in person at Cafe Prakash. All you could manage
was "bub! bub! glug! glug!" and then a litany of
whines the next morning here on Goanet.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-06 05:51:31 UTC
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Dears,


First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18 December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?

The GT report stated:
"GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act."

The venue is not the only thing that the GT got wrong. If Ritu Prasad was doing the presentation for GBA [which she did at TB Cunha Hall, near Azad Maidan] how can she have resigned from the GBA. Patricia Pinto was very much there ...and is very much with the GBA. Only Oscar has to make his presence felt. He has not resigned from the GBA, no matter who says or writes otherwise.
Mog asundi
Miguel

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:02:14 +0000
From: michael iglesias <iglesias_michael at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
(Gomantak Times)
Message-ID: <BLU142-W35397CC3455C0FB3C0FDFEF87B0 at phx.gbl>

When the tough gets going one needs to be tough. Rebello should not have quit but put on the fight, if he is on the right track and for the development of Goenkars ,and this goes out to every Goenkar today , no matter what disaster you face in life , be strong and god fearing , after all the lord has said "Be Still And Strong for I am God">

Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
By A Staff Reporterreporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)> have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar Rebello.> > Two other prominent members of the GBA, Ritu Prasad and> Patricia Pinto, who represented Rebello in the Task Force to> prepare the draft Regional Plan 2021, have also decided to> stay away from the panel henceforth.> > "I can understand people from outside the GBA criticizing> me," said a frustrated Rebello, "but when your own people> start labelling you a sell-out, it is better to resign."> >
The GBA was not agreeing to it."> > The GBA has to arrive to a consensus, Patricia said, adding> that the GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act.> > The resignation of the top three members means the GBA will> have to appoint a new set of leaders to represent it on the> Task Force.> > ENDS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------->



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Seb dc
2008-08-06 10:40:35 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Miguel for the clarification !!

Some margao goanetters are sleep walking without knowing the facts. Should
know by now, how much truth the newspapers publish. Beating their hearts
out, saying GBA is finished only proves their ignorance.

Why not ask these people about GPA, which has gone down the drain. And by
the way what happend to the Fast? Hema was supposed to go on..after the
meeting in AC hall at Mandovi.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb


|>>First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the
GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the
CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of
its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the
SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the
GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She
cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is
the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18
December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa
have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in
the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own
organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group
members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter
living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free
and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for
pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the
rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?
Seb dc
2008-08-06 10:40:35 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Miguel for the clarification !!

Some margao goanetters are sleep walking without knowing the facts. Should
know by now, how much truth the newspapers publish. Beating their hearts
out, saying GBA is finished only proves their ignorance.

Why not ask these people about GPA, which has gone down the drain. And by
the way what happend to the Fast? Hema was supposed to go on..after the
meeting in AC hall at Mandovi.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb


|>>First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the
GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the
CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of
its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the
SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the
GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She
cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is
the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18
December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa
have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in
the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own
organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group
members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter
living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free
and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for
pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the
rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?
Seb dc
2008-08-06 10:40:35 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Miguel for the clarification !!

Some margao goanetters are sleep walking without knowing the facts. Should
know by now, how much truth the newspapers publish. Beating their hearts
out, saying GBA is finished only proves their ignorance.

Why not ask these people about GPA, which has gone down the drain. And by
the way what happend to the Fast? Hema was supposed to go on..after the
meeting in AC hall at Mandovi.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb


|>>First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the
GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the
CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of
its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the
SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the
GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She
cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is
the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18
December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa
have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in
the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own
organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group
members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter
living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free
and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for
pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the
rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?
Seb dc
2008-08-06 10:40:35 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Miguel for the clarification !!

Some margao goanetters are sleep walking without knowing the facts. Should
know by now, how much truth the newspapers publish. Beating their hearts
out, saying GBA is finished only proves their ignorance.

Why not ask these people about GPA, which has gone down the drain. And by
the way what happend to the Fast? Hema was supposed to go on..after the
meeting in AC hall at Mandovi.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb


|>>First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the
GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the
CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of
its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the
SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the
GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She
cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is
the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18
December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa
have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in
the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own
organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group
members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter
living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free
and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for
pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the
rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?
Seb dc
2008-08-06 10:40:35 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Miguel for the clarification !!

Some margao goanetters are sleep walking without knowing the facts. Should
know by now, how much truth the newspapers publish. Beating their hearts
out, saying GBA is finished only proves their ignorance.

Why not ask these people about GPA, which has gone down the drain. And by
the way what happend to the Fast? Hema was supposed to go on..after the
meeting in AC hall at Mandovi.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb


|>>First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the
GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the
CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of
its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the
SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the
GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She
cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is
the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18
December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa
have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in
the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own
organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group
members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter
living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free
and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for
pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the
rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?
Seb dc
2008-08-06 10:40:35 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Miguel for the clarification !!

Some margao goanetters are sleep walking without knowing the facts. Should
know by now, how much truth the newspapers publish. Beating their hearts
out, saying GBA is finished only proves their ignorance.

Why not ask these people about GPA, which has gone down the drain. And by
the way what happend to the Fast? Hema was supposed to go on..after the
meeting in AC hall at Mandovi.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb


|>>First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the
GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the
CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of
its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the
SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the
GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She
cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is
the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18
December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa
have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in
the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own
organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group
members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter
living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free
and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for
pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the
rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?
Seb dc
2008-08-06 10:40:35 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Miguel for the clarification !!

Some margao goanetters are sleep walking without knowing the facts. Should
know by now, how much truth the newspapers publish. Beating their hearts
out, saying GBA is finished only proves their ignorance.

Why not ask these people about GPA, which has gone down the drain. And by
the way what happend to the Fast? Hema was supposed to go on..after the
meeting in AC hall at Mandovi.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb


|>>First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the
GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the
CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of
its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the
SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the
GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She
cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is
the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18
December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa
have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in
the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own
organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group
members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter
living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free
and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for
pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the
rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?
Dr. U. G. Barad
2008-08-06 16:57:27 UTC
Permalink
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY



My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb



Best regards,



Dr. U. G. Barad
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:11:53 UTC
Permalink
Hi Goanetters,

It gives me great pleasure to know, that dr. sr. are reading my messages on
Goanet!! More so cause, they are now even understanding them and have come
to the conclusion that GBA is here to stay and not vanish like the GPA.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Cheers, GBA is blooming and not using platforms!!

Best to u day!! since u are allergic to nICE dAYS....
Seb and not SEB seb

From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Post by Dr. U. G. Barad
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY
My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:11:53 UTC
Permalink
Hi Goanetters,

It gives me great pleasure to know, that dr. sr. are reading my messages on
Goanet!! More so cause, they are now even understanding them and have come
to the conclusion that GBA is here to stay and not vanish like the GPA.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Cheers, GBA is blooming and not using platforms!!

Best to u day!! since u are allergic to nICE dAYS....
Seb and not SEB seb

From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Post by Dr. U. G. Barad
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY
My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:11:53 UTC
Permalink
Hi Goanetters,

It gives me great pleasure to know, that dr. sr. are reading my messages on
Goanet!! More so cause, they are now even understanding them and have come
to the conclusion that GBA is here to stay and not vanish like the GPA.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Cheers, GBA is blooming and not using platforms!!

Best to u day!! since u are allergic to nICE dAYS....
Seb and not SEB seb

From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Post by Dr. U. G. Barad
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY
My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:11:53 UTC
Permalink
Hi Goanetters,

It gives me great pleasure to know, that dr. sr. are reading my messages on
Goanet!! More so cause, they are now even understanding them and have come
to the conclusion that GBA is here to stay and not vanish like the GPA.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Cheers, GBA is blooming and not using platforms!!

Best to u day!! since u are allergic to nICE dAYS....
Seb and not SEB seb

From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Post by Dr. U. G. Barad
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY
My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:11:53 UTC
Permalink
Hi Goanetters,

It gives me great pleasure to know, that dr. sr. are reading my messages on
Goanet!! More so cause, they are now even understanding them and have come
to the conclusion that GBA is here to stay and not vanish like the GPA.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Cheers, GBA is blooming and not using platforms!!

Best to u day!! since u are allergic to nICE dAYS....
Seb and not SEB seb

From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Post by Dr. U. G. Barad
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY
My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:11:53 UTC
Permalink
Hi Goanetters,

It gives me great pleasure to know, that dr. sr. are reading my messages on
Goanet!! More so cause, they are now even understanding them and have come
to the conclusion that GBA is here to stay and not vanish like the GPA.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Cheers, GBA is blooming and not using platforms!!

Best to u day!! since u are allergic to nICE dAYS....
Seb and not SEB seb

From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Post by Dr. U. G. Barad
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY
My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:11:53 UTC
Permalink
Hi Goanetters,

It gives me great pleasure to know, that dr. sr. are reading my messages on
Goanet!! More so cause, they are now even understanding them and have come
to the conclusion that GBA is here to stay and not vanish like the GPA.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
Seb dc
2008-08-07 06:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Cheers, GBA is blooming and not using platforms!!

Best to u day!! since u are allergic to nICE dAYS....
Seb and not SEB seb

From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Post by Dr. U. G. Barad
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY
My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad
Agnelo Fernandes
2008-08-07 04:49:54 UTC
Permalink
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:27:27 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Message-ID: <4899d804.0e1b6e0a.37ee.ffff9ed6 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY

My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad
------------------------------

HUH?//////////???????????????? What was that above about???

Cheers

Agnelo Fernandes
marshallmendonza
2008-08-03 12:01:40 UTC
Permalink
George Pinto wrote:
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?

Comment:
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on one of the best public faces who galvanised the people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).The others left behind have to bear the brunt. Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.

Regards,

Marshall
By A Staff Reporter
reporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)
have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar
Rebello.
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 18:15:20 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished
his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).
The others left behind have to bear the brunt.
Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.
You have the wrong end of the stick. Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.
I am under no such compulsion. I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-03 21:20:22 UTC
Permalink
Dears,
?
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate. However, Oscar Rebelo's language is no less flowery or peppered with expletives ... even at formal GBA meetings .... than Rajan's in private emails. I do not know if that was a part of their common school culture. His resigning as the Convener of the GBA is his personal loss, not of the GBA.
?
Admitted that Oscar was the smiling face of the GBA that reflected the emotion of the people's movement for the first three months of the agitiation. He apparently fell victim to the Goebbelian dictum and began to believe that Oscar is the GBA and GBA is Oscar. That has happened before. "L'Etat est moi!" was said? two centuries ago?and "India is Indira and Indira is India" was the slogan when Oscar was still outgrowing his diapers. Delusions are not rare at the top.
?
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed on the repeal of the amended?Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act,1974, and to prevent a Regional Plan for Goa that is not PARTICIPATORY in its spatial planning or Land Use Planning. There is a 36 crore land sale deed for 2.5 lakh sq. m. land in Survey No 139 Tansi at Canancona that was registered on Friday and needs to be cancelled. If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
?
No man is as important as the protection of Goa from its final destruction a la Ibn Batuta at the start of the 14th Century Anno Domini.
?
Mog asundi.
?
Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
Message-ID: <584392.20528.qm at web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. .
You have the wrong end of the stick.? Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.?
I am under no such compulsion.? I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,
r

------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:36 +0530
From: "soter" <soter at bsnl.in>
Subject: [Goanet] Watch out for draft RP 2021
Message-ID: 783A0761C3414310BAB127002A5DC36D at desi

There is all possibility that the draft? Regional Plan 2021 will be out any moment as the crisis within GBA was foreseen by some of us as part of the masterplan in order to blunt the opposition just before this plan is out. The betrayal was expected by many of us goans. The people of Goa have to gear up to resist the RP 2021 which is expected to be nothing better than a repackaged RP 2011 by the very same builder and real estate mafia. This RP 2021 will have all the potentiality for a final assault on the ecology and the people of? Goa.??????WATCH OUT GOANS!

-soter d'souza





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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 23:02:17 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate.
Gee, I'm shattered, dude. Imagine not being able to
bask in the shadow of your distinguished, CbC (Certified-by-Cecil)
being. I guess with this devastating blow, I should
cast off my mortal coil.


Regards,


r
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 02:01:50 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
.
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-04 16:58:18 UTC
Permalink
Dear Rajan,

Why do you have to persist in being malaprop: EPIPHANY is about revelation to Gentiles, I was born in a Christian family and raised as a Christian. Hence I am a non-gentile.

I opposed the Youth For Goa or YFG after it was hijacked by Malisa Simoes [aka Soglich MALIS Astana] to sub-serve the BJP with the GSF turned BJP Youth Durgadas Kamath and the inimitable Shahana Nayak, both of them migrant neo-Goans, a tribe you routinely criticise unless they are rich. Where is the YFG today, Rajan Bhaiya??

I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly [its abbreviation, GPA, mimics GBA almost as closely as Manohar-bab's, GDA, the short-lived Goa Democratic Alliance of July, 2007, that has let its first death anniversay pass without any memorial service while Babush is like a virgin ...on the VERGE but yet not IN the Digu-kaka cabinet.;-) ] Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains as Floriano Lobo revealed Dr. U.G. Barad and Mr. Srinvivas Kamat in his vote of thanks on behalf of the CITIZENS' INITIATIVE on the Goa University debate. Dr. Jayant Budkuley and Prof. Madhav S.Kamat [of Mauvin boot polishing team] also stand exposed. Floriano Lobo publicly apologised for his error in judgement. That is something you will NEVER be able to do in public.

Speaking of GPA, whatever happened to Ms. Hema Sardesai's threat to go on a fast unto death? Was that another FAST one, too? It is a long time since 16 June, 2008 ..... One MONTH and 18 days to be exact. When is the farce ...oops...fast, going to begin. I hope she can do it BEFORE the monsoon session of the Goa Assembly begins on 18 August, 2008.

A fast during SHRAVAN is also good. It makes one feel nice on the fourth day on Bhadrapada when one celebrates the lord of good times and peace, Ganesh, the son of Parvati and foster son of the great Shiv. I hope I have my Indian mythology correct this time. Please correct me if I am wrong. Of course, it is possible that Hema might not be practicing Hinduism after marriage to a "Battlo". She is one of us now. GOA ZAI? Singing is not enough. It is one thing to make presentations and speeches in the air-conditioned ambience of Hotel Mandovi, another to go on a hunger strike at Azad Maidan or Lohia Maidan.


Which reminds me of a verse from Dr. ManoharRai Sardessai's poem dedicated to the Satyagraha of 18 June, 1946.

"Kitle oxe aile ghele
Otthra Jun! ...
Ambea mullant kuddkuddtta
Gavddeacho por ozun!"

Since you so love to use French, I will place here the translation/rendition in French by Dr.Anuradha Wagle [Dept of French, Goa University], courtesy the book "My Song . Ma Chanson. O Meu Canto" [New Age Printers, Verna, Goa.Pages 180. Price Rs.250/-]

"Depuis, ce jour est revenu tant de fois:
Le 18 Juin! ....
Mais aujourd'hui encore le pauvre petit garcon gavddi
Sanglote sous le manguier"

The book is available at Vasha Book Stall and St. Paul's Books in Panaji, if one wants to read Dr. ManoharRai's poems in English, French or Portuguese. Original Konkani poems are available separately from other publishers at Goa Konkani Academy, Patto, Panaji.

Matanhy's anti-SEZ movement was openly linked to the BJP even during the Lok Sabha by-elections. It should be enough to enlighten you if you analyse why Manohar Parrikar lost his voice in the Goa Assembly on 25 March, 2008 and let the Goa TCP [Amendment] Act, 2008 pass UNOPPOSED .... changing Sections 16 and 16A of the Principal Act TCP Act, 1974. He claims the Govt gave only 48 hours notice of the Bill. Did he not read the Ordinance of the same title dated 29 February, 2008 and published in the Official Gazette of 05 March, 2008. If not, what sort of opposition party is the BJP?

We will know what the BJP does about the promised PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL to revoke the Goa TCP[Amendment] Act, 2008, in the upcoming session. The notice of the Bill should have gone by today as it needs 15 days notice ...and Private member's "Bills" will be taken up only on FRIDAYS 22 and 29 August, 2008 ....unless the Digamber Govt. decides to curtail the session as it did in January, 2008. Only 22 August is a sure date. The notice, with the DATE on the covering letter must reach the Legislature Department not later than 06 August, 2008 for that to happen.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: goanet at goanet.org
Message-ID: <255008.7044.qm at web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r



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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 17:42:40 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts
earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains
Who were these "other men behind the curtains"? You
must have a good deal of experience about men
"behind the curtains" given how your confrere used
a fake ID on Goanet to snipe at others and then got
found out.

And what is there to "reveal" about Dr. Anil Desai? He
was, still is, solidly behind the Goa People's Assembly.
In fact, it was he who mooted the idea of this public
forum and encouraged Soter and I to implement it.
He paid for half of the expenses of the June 16
event. He also sent a projector from London so that
I could hold shows of "The Rape of Goa" all over Goa.
What more would you like to know? Do you want
scans of the bills for Hotel Mandovi and Seby Sound?
After that, what else? A peep into our private bank
accounts?

You made the public allegation that the Goa People's
Assembly was a secret Manohar Parrikar and/or BJP
operation. Provide evidence for it. Other than your
babble, you have NOTHING - nada, zifr, zilch - to
back up that charge.

I asked you to present evidence for your charges,
in person at Cafe Prakash. All you could manage
was "bub! bub! glug! glug!" and then a litany of
whines the next morning here on Goanet.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-06 05:51:31 UTC
Permalink
Dears,


First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18 December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?

The GT report stated:
"GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act."

The venue is not the only thing that the GT got wrong. If Ritu Prasad was doing the presentation for GBA [which she did at TB Cunha Hall, near Azad Maidan] how can she have resigned from the GBA. Patricia Pinto was very much there ...and is very much with the GBA. Only Oscar has to make his presence felt. He has not resigned from the GBA, no matter who says or writes otherwise.
Mog asundi
Miguel

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:02:14 +0000
From: michael iglesias <iglesias_michael at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
(Gomantak Times)
Message-ID: <BLU142-W35397CC3455C0FB3C0FDFEF87B0 at phx.gbl>

When the tough gets going one needs to be tough. Rebello should not have quit but put on the fight, if he is on the right track and for the development of Goenkars ,and this goes out to every Goenkar today , no matter what disaster you face in life , be strong and god fearing , after all the lord has said "Be Still And Strong for I am God">

Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
By A Staff Reporterreporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)> have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar Rebello.> > Two other prominent members of the GBA, Ritu Prasad and> Patricia Pinto, who represented Rebello in the Task Force to> prepare the draft Regional Plan 2021, have also decided to> stay away from the panel henceforth.> > "I can understand people from outside the GBA criticizing> me," said a frustrated Rebello, "but when your own people> start labelling you a sell-out, it is better to resign."> >
The GBA was not agreeing to it."> > The GBA has to arrive to a consensus, Patricia said, adding> that the GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act.> > The resignation of the top three members means the GBA will> have to appoint a new set of leaders to represent it on the> Task Force.> > ENDS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------->



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Dr. U. G. Barad
2008-08-06 16:57:27 UTC
Permalink
This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY



My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb



Best regards,



Dr. U. G. Barad
Agnelo Fernandes
2008-08-07 04:49:54 UTC
Permalink
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:27:27 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Message-ID: <4899d804.0e1b6e0a.37ee.ffff9ed6 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY

My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad
------------------------------

HUH?//////////???????????????? What was that above about???

Cheers

Agnelo Fernandes
marshallmendonza
2008-08-03 12:01:40 UTC
Permalink
George Pinto wrote:
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?

Comment:
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on one of the best public faces who galvanised the people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).The others left behind have to bear the brunt. Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.

Regards,

Marshall
By A Staff Reporter
reporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)
have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar
Rebello.
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 18:15:20 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished
his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).
The others left behind have to bear the brunt.
Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.
You have the wrong end of the stick. Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.
I am under no such compulsion. I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-03 21:20:22 UTC
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Dears,
?
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate. However, Oscar Rebelo's language is no less flowery or peppered with expletives ... even at formal GBA meetings .... than Rajan's in private emails. I do not know if that was a part of their common school culture. His resigning as the Convener of the GBA is his personal loss, not of the GBA.
?
Admitted that Oscar was the smiling face of the GBA that reflected the emotion of the people's movement for the first three months of the agitiation. He apparently fell victim to the Goebbelian dictum and began to believe that Oscar is the GBA and GBA is Oscar. That has happened before. "L'Etat est moi!" was said? two centuries ago?and "India is Indira and Indira is India" was the slogan when Oscar was still outgrowing his diapers. Delusions are not rare at the top.
?
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed on the repeal of the amended?Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act,1974, and to prevent a Regional Plan for Goa that is not PARTICIPATORY in its spatial planning or Land Use Planning. There is a 36 crore land sale deed for 2.5 lakh sq. m. land in Survey No 139 Tansi at Canancona that was registered on Friday and needs to be cancelled. If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
?
No man is as important as the protection of Goa from its final destruction a la Ibn Batuta at the start of the 14th Century Anno Domini.
?
Mog asundi.
?
Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
Message-ID: <584392.20528.qm at web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. .
You have the wrong end of the stick.? Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.?
I am under no such compulsion.? I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,
r

------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:36 +0530
From: "soter" <soter at bsnl.in>
Subject: [Goanet] Watch out for draft RP 2021
Message-ID: 783A0761C3414310BAB127002A5DC36D at desi

There is all possibility that the draft? Regional Plan 2021 will be out any moment as the crisis within GBA was foreseen by some of us as part of the masterplan in order to blunt the opposition just before this plan is out. The betrayal was expected by many of us goans. The people of Goa have to gear up to resist the RP 2021 which is expected to be nothing better than a repackaged RP 2011 by the very same builder and real estate mafia. This RP 2021 will have all the potentiality for a final assault on the ecology and the people of? Goa.??????WATCH OUT GOANS!

-soter d'souza





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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 23:02:17 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate.
Gee, I'm shattered, dude. Imagine not being able to
bask in the shadow of your distinguished, CbC (Certified-by-Cecil)
being. I guess with this devastating blow, I should
cast off my mortal coil.


Regards,


r
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 02:01:50 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
.
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-04 16:58:18 UTC
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Dear Rajan,

Why do you have to persist in being malaprop: EPIPHANY is about revelation to Gentiles, I was born in a Christian family and raised as a Christian. Hence I am a non-gentile.

I opposed the Youth For Goa or YFG after it was hijacked by Malisa Simoes [aka Soglich MALIS Astana] to sub-serve the BJP with the GSF turned BJP Youth Durgadas Kamath and the inimitable Shahana Nayak, both of them migrant neo-Goans, a tribe you routinely criticise unless they are rich. Where is the YFG today, Rajan Bhaiya??

I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly [its abbreviation, GPA, mimics GBA almost as closely as Manohar-bab's, GDA, the short-lived Goa Democratic Alliance of July, 2007, that has let its first death anniversay pass without any memorial service while Babush is like a virgin ...on the VERGE but yet not IN the Digu-kaka cabinet.;-) ] Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains as Floriano Lobo revealed Dr. U.G. Barad and Mr. Srinvivas Kamat in his vote of thanks on behalf of the CITIZENS' INITIATIVE on the Goa University debate. Dr. Jayant Budkuley and Prof. Madhav S.Kamat [of Mauvin boot polishing team] also stand exposed. Floriano Lobo publicly apologised for his error in judgement. That is something you will NEVER be able to do in public.

Speaking of GPA, whatever happened to Ms. Hema Sardesai's threat to go on a fast unto death? Was that another FAST one, too? It is a long time since 16 June, 2008 ..... One MONTH and 18 days to be exact. When is the farce ...oops...fast, going to begin. I hope she can do it BEFORE the monsoon session of the Goa Assembly begins on 18 August, 2008.

A fast during SHRAVAN is also good. It makes one feel nice on the fourth day on Bhadrapada when one celebrates the lord of good times and peace, Ganesh, the son of Parvati and foster son of the great Shiv. I hope I have my Indian mythology correct this time. Please correct me if I am wrong. Of course, it is possible that Hema might not be practicing Hinduism after marriage to a "Battlo". She is one of us now. GOA ZAI? Singing is not enough. It is one thing to make presentations and speeches in the air-conditioned ambience of Hotel Mandovi, another to go on a hunger strike at Azad Maidan or Lohia Maidan.


Which reminds me of a verse from Dr. ManoharRai Sardessai's poem dedicated to the Satyagraha of 18 June, 1946.

"Kitle oxe aile ghele
Otthra Jun! ...
Ambea mullant kuddkuddtta
Gavddeacho por ozun!"

Since you so love to use French, I will place here the translation/rendition in French by Dr.Anuradha Wagle [Dept of French, Goa University], courtesy the book "My Song . Ma Chanson. O Meu Canto" [New Age Printers, Verna, Goa.Pages 180. Price Rs.250/-]

"Depuis, ce jour est revenu tant de fois:
Le 18 Juin! ....
Mais aujourd'hui encore le pauvre petit garcon gavddi
Sanglote sous le manguier"

The book is available at Vasha Book Stall and St. Paul's Books in Panaji, if one wants to read Dr. ManoharRai's poems in English, French or Portuguese. Original Konkani poems are available separately from other publishers at Goa Konkani Academy, Patto, Panaji.

Matanhy's anti-SEZ movement was openly linked to the BJP even during the Lok Sabha by-elections. It should be enough to enlighten you if you analyse why Manohar Parrikar lost his voice in the Goa Assembly on 25 March, 2008 and let the Goa TCP [Amendment] Act, 2008 pass UNOPPOSED .... changing Sections 16 and 16A of the Principal Act TCP Act, 1974. He claims the Govt gave only 48 hours notice of the Bill. Did he not read the Ordinance of the same title dated 29 February, 2008 and published in the Official Gazette of 05 March, 2008. If not, what sort of opposition party is the BJP?

We will know what the BJP does about the promised PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL to revoke the Goa TCP[Amendment] Act, 2008, in the upcoming session. The notice of the Bill should have gone by today as it needs 15 days notice ...and Private member's "Bills" will be taken up only on FRIDAYS 22 and 29 August, 2008 ....unless the Digamber Govt. decides to curtail the session as it did in January, 2008. Only 22 August is a sure date. The notice, with the DATE on the covering letter must reach the Legislature Department not later than 06 August, 2008 for that to happen.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: goanet at goanet.org
Message-ID: <255008.7044.qm at web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r



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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 17:42:40 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts
earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains
Who were these "other men behind the curtains"? You
must have a good deal of experience about men
"behind the curtains" given how your confrere used
a fake ID on Goanet to snipe at others and then got
found out.

And what is there to "reveal" about Dr. Anil Desai? He
was, still is, solidly behind the Goa People's Assembly.
In fact, it was he who mooted the idea of this public
forum and encouraged Soter and I to implement it.
He paid for half of the expenses of the June 16
event. He also sent a projector from London so that
I could hold shows of "The Rape of Goa" all over Goa.
What more would you like to know? Do you want
scans of the bills for Hotel Mandovi and Seby Sound?
After that, what else? A peep into our private bank
accounts?

You made the public allegation that the Goa People's
Assembly was a secret Manohar Parrikar and/or BJP
operation. Provide evidence for it. Other than your
babble, you have NOTHING - nada, zifr, zilch - to
back up that charge.

I asked you to present evidence for your charges,
in person at Cafe Prakash. All you could manage
was "bub! bub! glug! glug!" and then a litany of
whines the next morning here on Goanet.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-06 05:51:31 UTC
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Dears,


First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18 December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?

The GT report stated:
"GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act."

The venue is not the only thing that the GT got wrong. If Ritu Prasad was doing the presentation for GBA [which she did at TB Cunha Hall, near Azad Maidan] how can she have resigned from the GBA. Patricia Pinto was very much there ...and is very much with the GBA. Only Oscar has to make his presence felt. He has not resigned from the GBA, no matter who says or writes otherwise.
Mog asundi
Miguel

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:02:14 +0000
From: michael iglesias <iglesias_michael at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
(Gomantak Times)
Message-ID: <BLU142-W35397CC3455C0FB3C0FDFEF87B0 at phx.gbl>

When the tough gets going one needs to be tough. Rebello should not have quit but put on the fight, if he is on the right track and for the development of Goenkars ,and this goes out to every Goenkar today , no matter what disaster you face in life , be strong and god fearing , after all the lord has said "Be Still And Strong for I am God">

Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
By A Staff Reporterreporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)> have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar Rebello.> > Two other prominent members of the GBA, Ritu Prasad and> Patricia Pinto, who represented Rebello in the Task Force to> prepare the draft Regional Plan 2021, have also decided to> stay away from the panel henceforth.> > "I can understand people from outside the GBA criticizing> me," said a frustrated Rebello, "but when your own people> start labelling you a sell-out, it is better to resign."> >
The GBA was not agreeing to it."> > The GBA has to arrive to a consensus, Patricia said, adding> that the GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act.> > The resignation of the top three members means the GBA will> have to appoint a new set of leaders to represent it on the> Task Force.> > ENDS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------->



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Dr. U. G. Barad
2008-08-06 16:57:27 UTC
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This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY



My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb



Best regards,



Dr. U. G. Barad
Agnelo Fernandes
2008-08-07 04:49:54 UTC
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:27:27 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
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This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY

My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad
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HUH?//////////???????????????? What was that above about???

Cheers

Agnelo Fernandes
marshallmendonza
2008-08-03 12:01:40 UTC
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George Pinto wrote:
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?

Comment:
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on one of the best public faces who galvanised the people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).The others left behind have to bear the brunt. Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.

Regards,

Marshall
By A Staff Reporter
reporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)
have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar
Rebello.
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 18:15:20 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished
his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).
The others left behind have to bear the brunt.
Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.
You have the wrong end of the stick. Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.
I am under no such compulsion. I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-03 21:20:22 UTC
Permalink
Dears,
?
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate. However, Oscar Rebelo's language is no less flowery or peppered with expletives ... even at formal GBA meetings .... than Rajan's in private emails. I do not know if that was a part of their common school culture. His resigning as the Convener of the GBA is his personal loss, not of the GBA.
?
Admitted that Oscar was the smiling face of the GBA that reflected the emotion of the people's movement for the first three months of the agitiation. He apparently fell victim to the Goebbelian dictum and began to believe that Oscar is the GBA and GBA is Oscar. That has happened before. "L'Etat est moi!" was said? two centuries ago?and "India is Indira and Indira is India" was the slogan when Oscar was still outgrowing his diapers. Delusions are not rare at the top.
?
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed on the repeal of the amended?Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act,1974, and to prevent a Regional Plan for Goa that is not PARTICIPATORY in its spatial planning or Land Use Planning. There is a 36 crore land sale deed for 2.5 lakh sq. m. land in Survey No 139 Tansi at Canancona that was registered on Friday and needs to be cancelled. If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
?
No man is as important as the protection of Goa from its final destruction a la Ibn Batuta at the start of the 14th Century Anno Domini.
?
Mog asundi.
?
Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
Message-ID: <584392.20528.qm at web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. .
You have the wrong end of the stick.? Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.?
I am under no such compulsion.? I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,
r

------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:36 +0530
From: "soter" <soter at bsnl.in>
Subject: [Goanet] Watch out for draft RP 2021
Message-ID: 783A0761C3414310BAB127002A5DC36D at desi

There is all possibility that the draft? Regional Plan 2021 will be out any moment as the crisis within GBA was foreseen by some of us as part of the masterplan in order to blunt the opposition just before this plan is out. The betrayal was expected by many of us goans. The people of Goa have to gear up to resist the RP 2021 which is expected to be nothing better than a repackaged RP 2011 by the very same builder and real estate mafia. This RP 2021 will have all the potentiality for a final assault on the ecology and the people of? Goa.??????WATCH OUT GOANS!

-soter d'souza





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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 23:02:17 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate.
Gee, I'm shattered, dude. Imagine not being able to
bask in the shadow of your distinguished, CbC (Certified-by-Cecil)
being. I guess with this devastating blow, I should
cast off my mortal coil.


Regards,


r
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 02:01:50 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
.
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-04 16:58:18 UTC
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Dear Rajan,

Why do you have to persist in being malaprop: EPIPHANY is about revelation to Gentiles, I was born in a Christian family and raised as a Christian. Hence I am a non-gentile.

I opposed the Youth For Goa or YFG after it was hijacked by Malisa Simoes [aka Soglich MALIS Astana] to sub-serve the BJP with the GSF turned BJP Youth Durgadas Kamath and the inimitable Shahana Nayak, both of them migrant neo-Goans, a tribe you routinely criticise unless they are rich. Where is the YFG today, Rajan Bhaiya??

I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly [its abbreviation, GPA, mimics GBA almost as closely as Manohar-bab's, GDA, the short-lived Goa Democratic Alliance of July, 2007, that has let its first death anniversay pass without any memorial service while Babush is like a virgin ...on the VERGE but yet not IN the Digu-kaka cabinet.;-) ] Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains as Floriano Lobo revealed Dr. U.G. Barad and Mr. Srinvivas Kamat in his vote of thanks on behalf of the CITIZENS' INITIATIVE on the Goa University debate. Dr. Jayant Budkuley and Prof. Madhav S.Kamat [of Mauvin boot polishing team] also stand exposed. Floriano Lobo publicly apologised for his error in judgement. That is something you will NEVER be able to do in public.

Speaking of GPA, whatever happened to Ms. Hema Sardesai's threat to go on a fast unto death? Was that another FAST one, too? It is a long time since 16 June, 2008 ..... One MONTH and 18 days to be exact. When is the farce ...oops...fast, going to begin. I hope she can do it BEFORE the monsoon session of the Goa Assembly begins on 18 August, 2008.

A fast during SHRAVAN is also good. It makes one feel nice on the fourth day on Bhadrapada when one celebrates the lord of good times and peace, Ganesh, the son of Parvati and foster son of the great Shiv. I hope I have my Indian mythology correct this time. Please correct me if I am wrong. Of course, it is possible that Hema might not be practicing Hinduism after marriage to a "Battlo". She is one of us now. GOA ZAI? Singing is not enough. It is one thing to make presentations and speeches in the air-conditioned ambience of Hotel Mandovi, another to go on a hunger strike at Azad Maidan or Lohia Maidan.


Which reminds me of a verse from Dr. ManoharRai Sardessai's poem dedicated to the Satyagraha of 18 June, 1946.

"Kitle oxe aile ghele
Otthra Jun! ...
Ambea mullant kuddkuddtta
Gavddeacho por ozun!"

Since you so love to use French, I will place here the translation/rendition in French by Dr.Anuradha Wagle [Dept of French, Goa University], courtesy the book "My Song . Ma Chanson. O Meu Canto" [New Age Printers, Verna, Goa.Pages 180. Price Rs.250/-]

"Depuis, ce jour est revenu tant de fois:
Le 18 Juin! ....
Mais aujourd'hui encore le pauvre petit garcon gavddi
Sanglote sous le manguier"

The book is available at Vasha Book Stall and St. Paul's Books in Panaji, if one wants to read Dr. ManoharRai's poems in English, French or Portuguese. Original Konkani poems are available separately from other publishers at Goa Konkani Academy, Patto, Panaji.

Matanhy's anti-SEZ movement was openly linked to the BJP even during the Lok Sabha by-elections. It should be enough to enlighten you if you analyse why Manohar Parrikar lost his voice in the Goa Assembly on 25 March, 2008 and let the Goa TCP [Amendment] Act, 2008 pass UNOPPOSED .... changing Sections 16 and 16A of the Principal Act TCP Act, 1974. He claims the Govt gave only 48 hours notice of the Bill. Did he not read the Ordinance of the same title dated 29 February, 2008 and published in the Official Gazette of 05 March, 2008. If not, what sort of opposition party is the BJP?

We will know what the BJP does about the promised PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL to revoke the Goa TCP[Amendment] Act, 2008, in the upcoming session. The notice of the Bill should have gone by today as it needs 15 days notice ...and Private member's "Bills" will be taken up only on FRIDAYS 22 and 29 August, 2008 ....unless the Digamber Govt. decides to curtail the session as it did in January, 2008. Only 22 August is a sure date. The notice, with the DATE on the covering letter must reach the Legislature Department not later than 06 August, 2008 for that to happen.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: goanet at goanet.org
Message-ID: <255008.7044.qm at web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r



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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 17:42:40 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts
earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains
Who were these "other men behind the curtains"? You
must have a good deal of experience about men
"behind the curtains" given how your confrere used
a fake ID on Goanet to snipe at others and then got
found out.

And what is there to "reveal" about Dr. Anil Desai? He
was, still is, solidly behind the Goa People's Assembly.
In fact, it was he who mooted the idea of this public
forum and encouraged Soter and I to implement it.
He paid for half of the expenses of the June 16
event. He also sent a projector from London so that
I could hold shows of "The Rape of Goa" all over Goa.
What more would you like to know? Do you want
scans of the bills for Hotel Mandovi and Seby Sound?
After that, what else? A peep into our private bank
accounts?

You made the public allegation that the Goa People's
Assembly was a secret Manohar Parrikar and/or BJP
operation. Provide evidence for it. Other than your
babble, you have NOTHING - nada, zifr, zilch - to
back up that charge.

I asked you to present evidence for your charges,
in person at Cafe Prakash. All you could manage
was "bub! bub! glug! glug!" and then a litany of
whines the next morning here on Goanet.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-06 05:51:31 UTC
Permalink
Dears,


First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18 December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?

The GT report stated:
"GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act."

The venue is not the only thing that the GT got wrong. If Ritu Prasad was doing the presentation for GBA [which she did at TB Cunha Hall, near Azad Maidan] how can she have resigned from the GBA. Patricia Pinto was very much there ...and is very much with the GBA. Only Oscar has to make his presence felt. He has not resigned from the GBA, no matter who says or writes otherwise.
Mog asundi
Miguel

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:02:14 +0000
From: michael iglesias <iglesias_michael at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
(Gomantak Times)
Message-ID: <BLU142-W35397CC3455C0FB3C0FDFEF87B0 at phx.gbl>

When the tough gets going one needs to be tough. Rebello should not have quit but put on the fight, if he is on the right track and for the development of Goenkars ,and this goes out to every Goenkar today , no matter what disaster you face in life , be strong and god fearing , after all the lord has said "Be Still And Strong for I am God">

Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
By A Staff Reporterreporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)> have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar Rebello.> > Two other prominent members of the GBA, Ritu Prasad and> Patricia Pinto, who represented Rebello in the Task Force to> prepare the draft Regional Plan 2021, have also decided to> stay away from the panel henceforth.> > "I can understand people from outside the GBA criticizing> me," said a frustrated Rebello, "but when your own people> start labelling you a sell-out, it is better to resign."> >
The GBA was not agreeing to it."> > The GBA has to arrive to a consensus, Patricia said, adding> that the GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act.> > The resignation of the top three members means the GBA will> have to appoint a new set of leaders to represent it on the> Task Force.> > ENDS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------->



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2008-08-06 16:57:27 UTC
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Agnelo Fernandes
2008-08-07 04:49:54 UTC
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:27:27 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
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This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY

My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad
------------------------------

HUH?//////////???????????????? What was that above about???

Cheers

Agnelo Fernandes
marshallmendonza
2008-08-03 12:01:40 UTC
Permalink
George Pinto wrote:
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?

Comment:
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on one of the best public faces who galvanised the people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).The others left behind have to bear the brunt. Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.

Regards,

Marshall
By A Staff Reporter
reporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)
have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar
Rebello.
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 18:15:20 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished
his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).
The others left behind have to bear the brunt.
Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.
You have the wrong end of the stick. Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.
I am under no such compulsion. I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-03 21:20:22 UTC
Permalink
Dears,
?
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate. However, Oscar Rebelo's language is no less flowery or peppered with expletives ... even at formal GBA meetings .... than Rajan's in private emails. I do not know if that was a part of their common school culture. His resigning as the Convener of the GBA is his personal loss, not of the GBA.
?
Admitted that Oscar was the smiling face of the GBA that reflected the emotion of the people's movement for the first three months of the agitiation. He apparently fell victim to the Goebbelian dictum and began to believe that Oscar is the GBA and GBA is Oscar. That has happened before. "L'Etat est moi!" was said? two centuries ago?and "India is Indira and Indira is India" was the slogan when Oscar was still outgrowing his diapers. Delusions are not rare at the top.
?
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed on the repeal of the amended?Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act,1974, and to prevent a Regional Plan for Goa that is not PARTICIPATORY in its spatial planning or Land Use Planning. There is a 36 crore land sale deed for 2.5 lakh sq. m. land in Survey No 139 Tansi at Canancona that was registered on Friday and needs to be cancelled. If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
?
No man is as important as the protection of Goa from its final destruction a la Ibn Batuta at the start of the 14th Century Anno Domini.
?
Mog asundi.
?
Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
Message-ID: <584392.20528.qm at web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. .
You have the wrong end of the stick.? Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.?
I am under no such compulsion.? I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,
r

------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:36 +0530
From: "soter" <soter at bsnl.in>
Subject: [Goanet] Watch out for draft RP 2021
Message-ID: 783A0761C3414310BAB127002A5DC36D at desi

There is all possibility that the draft? Regional Plan 2021 will be out any moment as the crisis within GBA was foreseen by some of us as part of the masterplan in order to blunt the opposition just before this plan is out. The betrayal was expected by many of us goans. The people of Goa have to gear up to resist the RP 2021 which is expected to be nothing better than a repackaged RP 2011 by the very same builder and real estate mafia. This RP 2021 will have all the potentiality for a final assault on the ecology and the people of? Goa.??????WATCH OUT GOANS!

-soter d'souza





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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 23:02:17 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate.
Gee, I'm shattered, dude. Imagine not being able to
bask in the shadow of your distinguished, CbC (Certified-by-Cecil)
being. I guess with this devastating blow, I should
cast off my mortal coil.


Regards,


r
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 02:01:50 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
.
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-04 16:58:18 UTC
Permalink
Dear Rajan,

Why do you have to persist in being malaprop: EPIPHANY is about revelation to Gentiles, I was born in a Christian family and raised as a Christian. Hence I am a non-gentile.

I opposed the Youth For Goa or YFG after it was hijacked by Malisa Simoes [aka Soglich MALIS Astana] to sub-serve the BJP with the GSF turned BJP Youth Durgadas Kamath and the inimitable Shahana Nayak, both of them migrant neo-Goans, a tribe you routinely criticise unless they are rich. Where is the YFG today, Rajan Bhaiya??

I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly [its abbreviation, GPA, mimics GBA almost as closely as Manohar-bab's, GDA, the short-lived Goa Democratic Alliance of July, 2007, that has let its first death anniversay pass without any memorial service while Babush is like a virgin ...on the VERGE but yet not IN the Digu-kaka cabinet.;-) ] Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains as Floriano Lobo revealed Dr. U.G. Barad and Mr. Srinvivas Kamat in his vote of thanks on behalf of the CITIZENS' INITIATIVE on the Goa University debate. Dr. Jayant Budkuley and Prof. Madhav S.Kamat [of Mauvin boot polishing team] also stand exposed. Floriano Lobo publicly apologised for his error in judgement. That is something you will NEVER be able to do in public.

Speaking of GPA, whatever happened to Ms. Hema Sardesai's threat to go on a fast unto death? Was that another FAST one, too? It is a long time since 16 June, 2008 ..... One MONTH and 18 days to be exact. When is the farce ...oops...fast, going to begin. I hope she can do it BEFORE the monsoon session of the Goa Assembly begins on 18 August, 2008.

A fast during SHRAVAN is also good. It makes one feel nice on the fourth day on Bhadrapada when one celebrates the lord of good times and peace, Ganesh, the son of Parvati and foster son of the great Shiv. I hope I have my Indian mythology correct this time. Please correct me if I am wrong. Of course, it is possible that Hema might not be practicing Hinduism after marriage to a "Battlo". She is one of us now. GOA ZAI? Singing is not enough. It is one thing to make presentations and speeches in the air-conditioned ambience of Hotel Mandovi, another to go on a hunger strike at Azad Maidan or Lohia Maidan.


Which reminds me of a verse from Dr. ManoharRai Sardessai's poem dedicated to the Satyagraha of 18 June, 1946.

"Kitle oxe aile ghele
Otthra Jun! ...
Ambea mullant kuddkuddtta
Gavddeacho por ozun!"

Since you so love to use French, I will place here the translation/rendition in French by Dr.Anuradha Wagle [Dept of French, Goa University], courtesy the book "My Song . Ma Chanson. O Meu Canto" [New Age Printers, Verna, Goa.Pages 180. Price Rs.250/-]

"Depuis, ce jour est revenu tant de fois:
Le 18 Juin! ....
Mais aujourd'hui encore le pauvre petit garcon gavddi
Sanglote sous le manguier"

The book is available at Vasha Book Stall and St. Paul's Books in Panaji, if one wants to read Dr. ManoharRai's poems in English, French or Portuguese. Original Konkani poems are available separately from other publishers at Goa Konkani Academy, Patto, Panaji.

Matanhy's anti-SEZ movement was openly linked to the BJP even during the Lok Sabha by-elections. It should be enough to enlighten you if you analyse why Manohar Parrikar lost his voice in the Goa Assembly on 25 March, 2008 and let the Goa TCP [Amendment] Act, 2008 pass UNOPPOSED .... changing Sections 16 and 16A of the Principal Act TCP Act, 1974. He claims the Govt gave only 48 hours notice of the Bill. Did he not read the Ordinance of the same title dated 29 February, 2008 and published in the Official Gazette of 05 March, 2008. If not, what sort of opposition party is the BJP?

We will know what the BJP does about the promised PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL to revoke the Goa TCP[Amendment] Act, 2008, in the upcoming session. The notice of the Bill should have gone by today as it needs 15 days notice ...and Private member's "Bills" will be taken up only on FRIDAYS 22 and 29 August, 2008 ....unless the Digamber Govt. decides to curtail the session as it did in January, 2008. Only 22 August is a sure date. The notice, with the DATE on the covering letter must reach the Legislature Department not later than 06 August, 2008 for that to happen.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: goanet at goanet.org
Message-ID: <255008.7044.qm at web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r



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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 17:42:40 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts
earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains
Who were these "other men behind the curtains"? You
must have a good deal of experience about men
"behind the curtains" given how your confrere used
a fake ID on Goanet to snipe at others and then got
found out.

And what is there to "reveal" about Dr. Anil Desai? He
was, still is, solidly behind the Goa People's Assembly.
In fact, it was he who mooted the idea of this public
forum and encouraged Soter and I to implement it.
He paid for half of the expenses of the June 16
event. He also sent a projector from London so that
I could hold shows of "The Rape of Goa" all over Goa.
What more would you like to know? Do you want
scans of the bills for Hotel Mandovi and Seby Sound?
After that, what else? A peep into our private bank
accounts?

You made the public allegation that the Goa People's
Assembly was a secret Manohar Parrikar and/or BJP
operation. Provide evidence for it. Other than your
babble, you have NOTHING - nada, zifr, zilch - to
back up that charge.

I asked you to present evidence for your charges,
in person at Cafe Prakash. All you could manage
was "bub! bub! glug! glug!" and then a litany of
whines the next morning here on Goanet.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-06 05:51:31 UTC
Permalink
Dears,


First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18 December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?

The GT report stated:
"GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act."

The venue is not the only thing that the GT got wrong. If Ritu Prasad was doing the presentation for GBA [which she did at TB Cunha Hall, near Azad Maidan] how can she have resigned from the GBA. Patricia Pinto was very much there ...and is very much with the GBA. Only Oscar has to make his presence felt. He has not resigned from the GBA, no matter who says or writes otherwise.
Mog asundi
Miguel

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:02:14 +0000
From: michael iglesias <iglesias_michael at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
(Gomantak Times)
Message-ID: <BLU142-W35397CC3455C0FB3C0FDFEF87B0 at phx.gbl>

When the tough gets going one needs to be tough. Rebello should not have quit but put on the fight, if he is on the right track and for the development of Goenkars ,and this goes out to every Goenkar today , no matter what disaster you face in life , be strong and god fearing , after all the lord has said "Be Still And Strong for I am God">

Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
By A Staff Reporterreporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)> have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar Rebello.> > Two other prominent members of the GBA, Ritu Prasad and> Patricia Pinto, who represented Rebello in the Task Force to> prepare the draft Regional Plan 2021, have also decided to> stay away from the panel henceforth.> > "I can understand people from outside the GBA criticizing> me," said a frustrated Rebello, "but when your own people> start labelling you a sell-out, it is better to resign."> >
The GBA was not agreeing to it."> > The GBA has to arrive to a consensus, Patricia said, adding> that the GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act.> > The resignation of the top three members means the GBA will> have to appoint a new set of leaders to represent it on the> Task Force.> > ENDS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------->



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2008-08-06 16:57:27 UTC
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Agnelo Fernandes
2008-08-07 04:49:54 UTC
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:27:27 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY

My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad
------------------------------

HUH?//////////???????????????? What was that above about???

Cheers

Agnelo Fernandes
marshallmendonza
2008-08-03 12:01:40 UTC
Permalink
George Pinto wrote:
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?

Comment:
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on one of the best public faces who galvanised the people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).The others left behind have to bear the brunt. Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.

Regards,

Marshall
By A Staff Reporter
reporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)
have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar
Rebello.
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 18:15:20 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished
his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).
The others left behind have to bear the brunt.
Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.
You have the wrong end of the stick. Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.
I am under no such compulsion. I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-03 21:20:22 UTC
Permalink
Dears,
?
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate. However, Oscar Rebelo's language is no less flowery or peppered with expletives ... even at formal GBA meetings .... than Rajan's in private emails. I do not know if that was a part of their common school culture. His resigning as the Convener of the GBA is his personal loss, not of the GBA.
?
Admitted that Oscar was the smiling face of the GBA that reflected the emotion of the people's movement for the first three months of the agitiation. He apparently fell victim to the Goebbelian dictum and began to believe that Oscar is the GBA and GBA is Oscar. That has happened before. "L'Etat est moi!" was said? two centuries ago?and "India is Indira and Indira is India" was the slogan when Oscar was still outgrowing his diapers. Delusions are not rare at the top.
?
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed on the repeal of the amended?Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act,1974, and to prevent a Regional Plan for Goa that is not PARTICIPATORY in its spatial planning or Land Use Planning. There is a 36 crore land sale deed for 2.5 lakh sq. m. land in Survey No 139 Tansi at Canancona that was registered on Friday and needs to be cancelled. If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
?
No man is as important as the protection of Goa from its final destruction a la Ibn Batuta at the start of the 14th Century Anno Domini.
?
Mog asundi.
?
Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
Message-ID: <584392.20528.qm at web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. .
You have the wrong end of the stick.? Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.?
I am under no such compulsion.? I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,
r

------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:36 +0530
From: "soter" <soter at bsnl.in>
Subject: [Goanet] Watch out for draft RP 2021
Message-ID: 783A0761C3414310BAB127002A5DC36D at desi

There is all possibility that the draft? Regional Plan 2021 will be out any moment as the crisis within GBA was foreseen by some of us as part of the masterplan in order to blunt the opposition just before this plan is out. The betrayal was expected by many of us goans. The people of Goa have to gear up to resist the RP 2021 which is expected to be nothing better than a repackaged RP 2011 by the very same builder and real estate mafia. This RP 2021 will have all the potentiality for a final assault on the ecology and the people of? Goa.??????WATCH OUT GOANS!

-soter d'souza





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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 23:02:17 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate.
Gee, I'm shattered, dude. Imagine not being able to
bask in the shadow of your distinguished, CbC (Certified-by-Cecil)
being. I guess with this devastating blow, I should
cast off my mortal coil.


Regards,


r
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 02:01:50 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
.
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-04 16:58:18 UTC
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Dear Rajan,

Why do you have to persist in being malaprop: EPIPHANY is about revelation to Gentiles, I was born in a Christian family and raised as a Christian. Hence I am a non-gentile.

I opposed the Youth For Goa or YFG after it was hijacked by Malisa Simoes [aka Soglich MALIS Astana] to sub-serve the BJP with the GSF turned BJP Youth Durgadas Kamath and the inimitable Shahana Nayak, both of them migrant neo-Goans, a tribe you routinely criticise unless they are rich. Where is the YFG today, Rajan Bhaiya??

I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly [its abbreviation, GPA, mimics GBA almost as closely as Manohar-bab's, GDA, the short-lived Goa Democratic Alliance of July, 2007, that has let its first death anniversay pass without any memorial service while Babush is like a virgin ...on the VERGE but yet not IN the Digu-kaka cabinet.;-) ] Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains as Floriano Lobo revealed Dr. U.G. Barad and Mr. Srinvivas Kamat in his vote of thanks on behalf of the CITIZENS' INITIATIVE on the Goa University debate. Dr. Jayant Budkuley and Prof. Madhav S.Kamat [of Mauvin boot polishing team] also stand exposed. Floriano Lobo publicly apologised for his error in judgement. That is something you will NEVER be able to do in public.

Speaking of GPA, whatever happened to Ms. Hema Sardesai's threat to go on a fast unto death? Was that another FAST one, too? It is a long time since 16 June, 2008 ..... One MONTH and 18 days to be exact. When is the farce ...oops...fast, going to begin. I hope she can do it BEFORE the monsoon session of the Goa Assembly begins on 18 August, 2008.

A fast during SHRAVAN is also good. It makes one feel nice on the fourth day on Bhadrapada when one celebrates the lord of good times and peace, Ganesh, the son of Parvati and foster son of the great Shiv. I hope I have my Indian mythology correct this time. Please correct me if I am wrong. Of course, it is possible that Hema might not be practicing Hinduism after marriage to a "Battlo". She is one of us now. GOA ZAI? Singing is not enough. It is one thing to make presentations and speeches in the air-conditioned ambience of Hotel Mandovi, another to go on a hunger strike at Azad Maidan or Lohia Maidan.


Which reminds me of a verse from Dr. ManoharRai Sardessai's poem dedicated to the Satyagraha of 18 June, 1946.

"Kitle oxe aile ghele
Otthra Jun! ...
Ambea mullant kuddkuddtta
Gavddeacho por ozun!"

Since you so love to use French, I will place here the translation/rendition in French by Dr.Anuradha Wagle [Dept of French, Goa University], courtesy the book "My Song . Ma Chanson. O Meu Canto" [New Age Printers, Verna, Goa.Pages 180. Price Rs.250/-]

"Depuis, ce jour est revenu tant de fois:
Le 18 Juin! ....
Mais aujourd'hui encore le pauvre petit garcon gavddi
Sanglote sous le manguier"

The book is available at Vasha Book Stall and St. Paul's Books in Panaji, if one wants to read Dr. ManoharRai's poems in English, French or Portuguese. Original Konkani poems are available separately from other publishers at Goa Konkani Academy, Patto, Panaji.

Matanhy's anti-SEZ movement was openly linked to the BJP even during the Lok Sabha by-elections. It should be enough to enlighten you if you analyse why Manohar Parrikar lost his voice in the Goa Assembly on 25 March, 2008 and let the Goa TCP [Amendment] Act, 2008 pass UNOPPOSED .... changing Sections 16 and 16A of the Principal Act TCP Act, 1974. He claims the Govt gave only 48 hours notice of the Bill. Did he not read the Ordinance of the same title dated 29 February, 2008 and published in the Official Gazette of 05 March, 2008. If not, what sort of opposition party is the BJP?

We will know what the BJP does about the promised PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL to revoke the Goa TCP[Amendment] Act, 2008, in the upcoming session. The notice of the Bill should have gone by today as it needs 15 days notice ...and Private member's "Bills" will be taken up only on FRIDAYS 22 and 29 August, 2008 ....unless the Digamber Govt. decides to curtail the session as it did in January, 2008. Only 22 August is a sure date. The notice, with the DATE on the covering letter must reach the Legislature Department not later than 06 August, 2008 for that to happen.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: goanet at goanet.org
Message-ID: <255008.7044.qm at web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r



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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 17:42:40 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts
earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains
Who were these "other men behind the curtains"? You
must have a good deal of experience about men
"behind the curtains" given how your confrere used
a fake ID on Goanet to snipe at others and then got
found out.

And what is there to "reveal" about Dr. Anil Desai? He
was, still is, solidly behind the Goa People's Assembly.
In fact, it was he who mooted the idea of this public
forum and encouraged Soter and I to implement it.
He paid for half of the expenses of the June 16
event. He also sent a projector from London so that
I could hold shows of "The Rape of Goa" all over Goa.
What more would you like to know? Do you want
scans of the bills for Hotel Mandovi and Seby Sound?
After that, what else? A peep into our private bank
accounts?

You made the public allegation that the Goa People's
Assembly was a secret Manohar Parrikar and/or BJP
operation. Provide evidence for it. Other than your
babble, you have NOTHING - nada, zifr, zilch - to
back up that charge.

I asked you to present evidence for your charges,
in person at Cafe Prakash. All you could manage
was "bub! bub! glug! glug!" and then a litany of
whines the next morning here on Goanet.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-06 05:51:31 UTC
Permalink
Dears,


First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18 December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?

The GT report stated:
"GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act."

The venue is not the only thing that the GT got wrong. If Ritu Prasad was doing the presentation for GBA [which she did at TB Cunha Hall, near Azad Maidan] how can she have resigned from the GBA. Patricia Pinto was very much there ...and is very much with the GBA. Only Oscar has to make his presence felt. He has not resigned from the GBA, no matter who says or writes otherwise.
Mog asundi
Miguel

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:02:14 +0000
From: michael iglesias <iglesias_michael at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
(Gomantak Times)
Message-ID: <BLU142-W35397CC3455C0FB3C0FDFEF87B0 at phx.gbl>

When the tough gets going one needs to be tough. Rebello should not have quit but put on the fight, if he is on the right track and for the development of Goenkars ,and this goes out to every Goenkar today , no matter what disaster you face in life , be strong and god fearing , after all the lord has said "Be Still And Strong for I am God">

Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
By A Staff Reporterreporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)> have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar Rebello.> > Two other prominent members of the GBA, Ritu Prasad and> Patricia Pinto, who represented Rebello in the Task Force to> prepare the draft Regional Plan 2021, have also decided to> stay away from the panel henceforth.> > "I can understand people from outside the GBA criticizing> me," said a frustrated Rebello, "but when your own people> start labelling you a sell-out, it is better to resign."> >
The GBA was not agreeing to it."> > The GBA has to arrive to a consensus, Patricia said, adding> that the GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act.> > The resignation of the top three members means the GBA will> have to appoint a new set of leaders to represent it on the> Task Force.> > ENDS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------->



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Dr. U. G. Barad
2008-08-06 16:57:27 UTC
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This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY



My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb



Best regards,



Dr. U. G. Barad
Agnelo Fernandes
2008-08-07 04:49:54 UTC
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:27:27 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Message-ID: <4899d804.0e1b6e0a.37ee.ffff9ed6 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY

My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad
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HUH?//////////???????????????? What was that above about???

Cheers

Agnelo Fernandes
marshallmendonza
2008-08-03 12:01:40 UTC
Permalink
George Pinto wrote:
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?

Comment:
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on one of the best public faces who galvanised the people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).The others left behind have to bear the brunt. Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.

Regards,

Marshall
By A Staff Reporter
reporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)
have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar
Rebello.
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 18:15:20 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. Rajan has accomplished
his job and is back in the US (according to Samir).
The others left behind have to bear the brunt.
Another goan crab story to narrate to our grandchildren.
You have the wrong end of the stick. Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.
I am under no such compulsion. I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-03 21:20:22 UTC
Permalink
Dears,
?
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate. However, Oscar Rebelo's language is no less flowery or peppered with expletives ... even at formal GBA meetings .... than Rajan's in private emails. I do not know if that was a part of their common school culture. His resigning as the Convener of the GBA is his personal loss, not of the GBA.
?
Admitted that Oscar was the smiling face of the GBA that reflected the emotion of the people's movement for the first three months of the agitiation. He apparently fell victim to the Goebbelian dictum and began to believe that Oscar is the GBA and GBA is Oscar. That has happened before. "L'Etat est moi!" was said? two centuries ago?and "India is Indira and Indira is India" was the slogan when Oscar was still outgrowing his diapers. Delusions are not rare at the top.
?
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed on the repeal of the amended?Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act,1974, and to prevent a Regional Plan for Goa that is not PARTICIPATORY in its spatial planning or Land Use Planning. There is a 36 crore land sale deed for 2.5 lakh sq. m. land in Survey No 139 Tansi at Canancona that was registered on Friday and needs to be cancelled. If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
?
No man is as important as the protection of Goa from its final destruction a la Ibn Batuta at the start of the 14th Century Anno Domini.
?
Mog asundi.
?
Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
Message-ID: <584392.20528.qm at web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by marshallmendonza
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
one of the best public faces who galvanised the
people of Goa against corruption? The loss is not
of Dr Oscar but goans. .
You have the wrong end of the stick.? Sorry, you may
desire a fund of nice fairy tales - with or without
crustaceans in them - to relate to your grandchildren.?
I am under no such compulsion.? I am quite happy
to see traitors depart or to show them the door.

Warm regards,
r

------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:36 +0530
From: "soter" <soter at bsnl.in>
Subject: [Goanet] Watch out for draft RP 2021
Message-ID: 783A0761C3414310BAB127002A5DC36D at desi

There is all possibility that the draft? Regional Plan 2021 will be out any moment as the crisis within GBA was foreseen by some of us as part of the masterplan in order to blunt the opposition just before this plan is out. The betrayal was expected by many of us goans. The people of Goa have to gear up to resist the RP 2021 which is expected to be nothing better than a repackaged RP 2011 by the very same builder and real estate mafia. This RP 2021 will have all the potentiality for a final assault on the ecology and the people of? Goa.??????WATCH OUT GOANS!

-soter d'souza





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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-03 23:02:17 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate.
Gee, I'm shattered, dude. Imagine not being able to
bask in the shadow of your distinguished, CbC (Certified-by-Cecil)
being. I guess with this devastating blow, I should
cast off my mortal coil.


Regards,


r
Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 02:01:50 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
.
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-04 16:58:18 UTC
Permalink
Dear Rajan,

Why do you have to persist in being malaprop: EPIPHANY is about revelation to Gentiles, I was born in a Christian family and raised as a Christian. Hence I am a non-gentile.

I opposed the Youth For Goa or YFG after it was hijacked by Malisa Simoes [aka Soglich MALIS Astana] to sub-serve the BJP with the GSF turned BJP Youth Durgadas Kamath and the inimitable Shahana Nayak, both of them migrant neo-Goans, a tribe you routinely criticise unless they are rich. Where is the YFG today, Rajan Bhaiya??

I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly [its abbreviation, GPA, mimics GBA almost as closely as Manohar-bab's, GDA, the short-lived Goa Democratic Alliance of July, 2007, that has let its first death anniversay pass without any memorial service while Babush is like a virgin ...on the VERGE but yet not IN the Digu-kaka cabinet.;-) ] Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains as Floriano Lobo revealed Dr. U.G. Barad and Mr. Srinvivas Kamat in his vote of thanks on behalf of the CITIZENS' INITIATIVE on the Goa University debate. Dr. Jayant Budkuley and Prof. Madhav S.Kamat [of Mauvin boot polishing team] also stand exposed. Floriano Lobo publicly apologised for his error in judgement. That is something you will NEVER be able to do in public.

Speaking of GPA, whatever happened to Ms. Hema Sardesai's threat to go on a fast unto death? Was that another FAST one, too? It is a long time since 16 June, 2008 ..... One MONTH and 18 days to be exact. When is the farce ...oops...fast, going to begin. I hope she can do it BEFORE the monsoon session of the Goa Assembly begins on 18 August, 2008.

A fast during SHRAVAN is also good. It makes one feel nice on the fourth day on Bhadrapada when one celebrates the lord of good times and peace, Ganesh, the son of Parvati and foster son of the great Shiv. I hope I have my Indian mythology correct this time. Please correct me if I am wrong. Of course, it is possible that Hema might not be practicing Hinduism after marriage to a "Battlo". She is one of us now. GOA ZAI? Singing is not enough. It is one thing to make presentations and speeches in the air-conditioned ambience of Hotel Mandovi, another to go on a hunger strike at Azad Maidan or Lohia Maidan.


Which reminds me of a verse from Dr. ManoharRai Sardessai's poem dedicated to the Satyagraha of 18 June, 1946.

"Kitle oxe aile ghele
Otthra Jun! ...
Ambea mullant kuddkuddtta
Gavddeacho por ozun!"

Since you so love to use French, I will place here the translation/rendition in French by Dr.Anuradha Wagle [Dept of French, Goa University], courtesy the book "My Song . Ma Chanson. O Meu Canto" [New Age Printers, Verna, Goa.Pages 180. Price Rs.250/-]

"Depuis, ce jour est revenu tant de fois:
Le 18 Juin! ....
Mais aujourd'hui encore le pauvre petit garcon gavddi
Sanglote sous le manguier"

The book is available at Vasha Book Stall and St. Paul's Books in Panaji, if one wants to read Dr. ManoharRai's poems in English, French or Portuguese. Original Konkani poems are available separately from other publishers at Goa Konkani Academy, Patto, Panaji.

Matanhy's anti-SEZ movement was openly linked to the BJP even during the Lok Sabha by-elections. It should be enough to enlighten you if you analyse why Manohar Parrikar lost his voice in the Goa Assembly on 25 March, 2008 and let the Goa TCP [Amendment] Act, 2008 pass UNOPPOSED .... changing Sections 16 and 16A of the Principal Act TCP Act, 1974. He claims the Govt gave only 48 hours notice of the Bill. Did he not read the Ordinance of the same title dated 29 February, 2008 and published in the Official Gazette of 05 March, 2008. If not, what sort of opposition party is the BJP?

We will know what the BJP does about the promised PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL to revoke the Goa TCP[Amendment] Act, 2008, in the upcoming session. The notice of the Bill should have gone by today as it needs 15 days notice ...and Private member's "Bills" will be taken up only on FRIDAYS 22 and 29 August, 2008 ....unless the Digamber Govt. decides to curtail the session as it did in January, 2008. Only 22 August is a sure date. The notice, with the DATE on the covering letter must reach the Legislature Department not later than 06 August, 2008 for that to happen.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <parrikar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
To: goanet at goanet.org
Message-ID: <255008.7044.qm at web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Post by Miguel Braganza
There is no time to waste in these futile diversionary tactics
unleashed by the Establishment, we must remain focussed
If Goans take the diversion, they will miss the bridge and fall in the river.
Oooh, look who's talkin' !!

What's this, you just had a divine epiphany? For months
on end, you took potshots at Matanhy et al during the
SEZ movement. You raised a stink about Malisa Simoes
and her youth group. In June, when we tried to bring
diverse people together on a common platform under
Goa's People's Assembly, you cried foul. And now
suddenly you want everyone to "remain focussed"?
Now you suddenly discover the virtues of T.E.A.M.?

Have you had a makeover of your soul or what?

Warm regards,


r



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Rajan P. Parrikar
2008-08-04 17:42:40 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by Miguel Braganza
I was as solidly with Soter D'Souza and the Goa People's Assembly
.
.
Post by Miguel Braganza
Then you shifted the goal posts ...or you had hidden the goal posts
earlier ... to reveal Dr. Anil DESA-i and other men-behind-the-curtains
Who were these "other men behind the curtains"? You
must have a good deal of experience about men
"behind the curtains" given how your confrere used
a fake ID on Goanet to snipe at others and then got
found out.

And what is there to "reveal" about Dr. Anil Desai? He
was, still is, solidly behind the Goa People's Assembly.
In fact, it was he who mooted the idea of this public
forum and encouraged Soter and I to implement it.
He paid for half of the expenses of the June 16
event. He also sent a projector from London so that
I could hold shows of "The Rape of Goa" all over Goa.
What more would you like to know? Do you want
scans of the bills for Hotel Mandovi and Seby Sound?
After that, what else? A peep into our private bank
accounts?

You made the public allegation that the Goa People's
Assembly was a secret Manohar Parrikar and/or BJP
operation. Provide evidence for it. Other than your
babble, you have NOTHING - nada, zifr, zilch - to
back up that charge.

I asked you to present evidence for your charges,
in person at Cafe Prakash. All you could manage
was "bub! bub! glug! glug!" and then a litany of
whines the next morning here on Goanet.

Warm regards,


r
Miguel Braganza
2008-08-06 05:51:31 UTC
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Dears,


First of all the news is INACCURATE. Oscar Rebelo has quit neither the GBA nor the Task Force. He has merely announced his resignation as the CONVENER of the GBA. Posts are not important in the GBA, the fulfillment of its three-point agenda is all important. Patricia Pinto resigned as the SECRETARY of the GBA on 31 March, 2008. She is still an active member of the GBA Core Group and till recently of the Task Force support to Oscar. She cannot attend now. If the groom is not attending the nuptials to what use is the Bridesmaid and Flower girl?

Of the THREE OBJECTIVES in the Memorandum to the Goa Govt. signed on 18 December, 2006 and sent on 22 December, 2006, the GBA and the people of Goa have achieved TWO, the last one is half way through. The work continues in the GBA. The people of Goa need to continue to support their very own organisation, the GBA. If the people of Goa leave the GBA, the Core Group members can very well go back to their various professions to earn a beter living for themselves. The GBA is NOT a salary paying NGO. We work for free and often spend money from our pockets for more things than travel.

The going is going to get tougher still in the coming days. The days for pussy-footing are almost over. It is back to the street cat days and, in the rains, one is also likely to get wet. So who is chicken now?

The GT report stated:
"GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act."

The venue is not the only thing that the GT got wrong. If Ritu Prasad was doing the presentation for GBA [which she did at TB Cunha Hall, near Azad Maidan] how can she have resigned from the GBA. Patricia Pinto was very much there ...and is very much with the GBA. Only Oscar has to make his presence felt. He has not resigned from the GBA, no matter who says or writes otherwise.
Mog asundi
Miguel

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:02:14 +0000
From: michael iglesias <iglesias_michael at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
(Gomantak Times)
Message-ID: <BLU142-W35397CC3455C0FB3C0FDFEF87B0 at phx.gbl>

When the tough gets going one needs to be tough. Rebello should not have quit but put on the fight, if he is on the right track and for the development of Goenkars ,and this goes out to every Goenkar today , no matter what disaster you face in life , be strong and god fearing , after all the lord has said "Be Still And Strong for I am God">

Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
By A Staff Reporterreporters at gomantaktimes.com
PANJIM: Disparate forces with the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA)> have finally forced the resignation of its convenor Oscar Rebello.> > Two other prominent members of the GBA, Ritu Prasad and> Patricia Pinto, who represented Rebello in the Task Force to> prepare the draft Regional Plan 2021, have also decided to> stay away from the panel henceforth.> > "I can understand people from outside the GBA criticizing> me," said a frustrated Rebello, "but when your own people> start labelling you a sell-out, it is better to resign."> >
The GBA was not agreeing to it."> > The GBA has to arrive to a consensus, Patricia said, adding> that the GBA would meet at the Caritas Hall, St Inez, Panjim> at 4 pm today, August 2, where Ritu Prasad is likely to make> a presentation on Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act.> > The resignation of the top three members means the GBA will> have to appoint a new set of leaders to represent it on the> Task Force.> > ENDS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------->



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Dr. U. G. Barad
2008-08-06 16:57:27 UTC
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This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY



My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb



Best regards,



Dr. U. G. Barad
Agnelo Fernandes
2008-08-07 04:49:54 UTC
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:27:27 +0530
From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <dr.udaybarad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa crusader Oscar quits GBA
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This is in reply to Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 from hAVE a nICE dAY

My response is: hAVE a nICE dAY as is SEB seb

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad
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HUH?//////////???????????????? What was that above about???

Cheers

Agnelo Fernandes
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