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[Goanet] Global Goans Convention (GGC) Jan.3 to Jan 5, 2007 - a report
JoeGoaUk
2007-01-08 08:30:30 UTC
Permalink
I am not very good at making reports, so here I send it raw
If find boring, just check out some Goa photos in the end



Global Goans Convention (GGC) Jan.3 to Jan 5, 2007

Daily Programe (General)
10 am start at Hotel Cidade de Goa
1pm Working Lunch
3 pm Coach leaving for Secretariat for Ministers? presentation (except last day)
4.45 to 5.30pm and Qs & As time (except on the last day)
6 pm coach leaves for Fort Aguade for Dinner at 8 pm (First Day) hosted by CM
Second day dinner at Cidade de Goa hosted by Mr. Faleiro at 8pm
Third day a reception by Governor at his official residence (Raj Bhavan) 4.30 to 7pm

At Interactive session (secretariat)
Eduardo Faleiro arranged not only ministers but their secretaries too.
Secretary will note down all the questions put to his minister, and if action needed, they
will write to the delegate (person who needed answer/action) by email etc about the action or
follow-up within a month.

RP2011
As it was said earlier that this came up more than twice on the very fist day of Convention
during interacting time with ministers on Jan. 3.
Chief Minster was to attend but saw his deputy Wilfred D?souza instead.
As Tourism and Enviroment Minister Dr. Willy washed his hands saying RP2011 file had never
came to his office (except one memo about an amendment). Nor it was discussed by the Goa
cabinet. And that It was wrong to say every one agreed to RP2011
Earlier, during the morning session, CM said RP2011 can be changed if required.

JoeSays: The 45 minutes Question and Answers (Q&A) time was too less and Mr. Faleiro, as a
moderator, always seen saying ;?hurry up, time is fast running out?
Sometimes, he was even a bit rude to the delegates who stood up for question etc (I guess it
was his duty as a Moderator keeping in mind the very short time available). He even stopped
some ministers half way while they were giving their presentation i.e. painting rosy pictures
of themselves.
It may be said here, RP2011 was not the only reason NRGs attended the GGC.
If all came for RP2011 only, then all would have walked out together with the New York Couple.
However, they could still stand up in protest (if not walk out) but this things don?t usually
seen amongst the Goans.

Read here for Day 1 details
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052482.html


Garbage issue:
This too has come up more than once.
It was even said they have overcome problems/protests like Konkan Railways, Metha Strips etc
and how come this (Garbage) took so long ?
Ministers say.. The plant got be started somewhere but every one says ?not here, take it else
where? and how this will work ? It was also said that a party came forward to shoulder all
burden at their cost and in return we pay for the power that it will generate out of it
(Garbage).

Land issue:
When this came up about the sale land to foreigners/outsiders etc
Ministers question back saying ?Who are the people who sell this land, are they not Goans? ?

Dabolim Airport:
Navy promised 9 acres of land but not delivered yet.
Once the land is available, 10 to 11 wide body planes can be accommodated from current just 6.
Says Tourism Ministes (TM)

Golf Course:
No Japanese tourist will visit Goa if there is no Golf facilities.
So, one coming up (TM)

Oceanarium:
Goa going to have one world class Oceanarium.
7 application received so far. And waiting for final ?Go ahead signal? from the
centre/authority. TM


Passport/Imigration/Consular services etc

Chief Passport Officer (CPO) Mr. R R Dash
5.5 laks in Kuwait (70k Goans)
2.5 laks in Bharaim
1.5 million in UAE
1.7 million in Saudi
2 laks in Quatar
Over 4.5 millions in Gulf

-More than 40 lac passports issued up to 2006, (24k in Goa .)
Expected more than 45 laks in 2007
-E-Passport or biometric from 2008
-25 million passport in circulation
-Those spend 3 years abroad, are not required ENCR stamp.
-Degree authentication is done in Goa (previously only in Delhi )
-2.5 laks p.a Indian visas granted in France
-30 missions abroad to be outsourced soon (including France , UK etc Visas issue etc)

Goa: Panchayats/Senior citizesn.artists/unemployed graduates
-189 Villages,
-183 Panchayats
-About 9000 Graduate unemployed
-Rs.1, 200 pm to those needy artist at age 58 and above
-1.10 laks Senior citizens in state

Keith Vaz to bring Lester City football team to Goa at his own expense

Margao new Hospital/GMC
New Hospital work near KTC to start before end of current financial year.
2000 per day OPD patients at GMC

JoeSays: But it seems the process for land acquisition for the same is not completed yet.
Today, it was reported in local dailies that farmers of Dovandem, Margao have strongly opposed
the acquisition process of the agricultural land, which is reportedly underway to build a new
district hospital. Memos also been submitted to Governor and Chief secretary. They have also
suggested that the present Hospicio and TB hospital be modified and upgraded with modern
facilities and services or the new hospital be built at Monte Hill
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052682.html

8 NRGs felicitated
Awards were presented at the hands of Governor of Goa.
Who recommended the 8 people ?
It appear that all are recommend by their respective Indian Mission abroad
(Consulate/embassy). One of them had just completed 75 years on the day of the ceremony i.e.
Jan.5

NRG Investments in Goa :
CM says out of every Rs.5 invested in Goa , Re. 1 come from NRGs

Governor
?Statistics may say Goa ?s population is about 15 laks but as per my calculation it should be
about 20 lakhs.? Says 76 year old Goa Governor Mr. Jamir who is in Goa for more than 2years
now.
He also say there are two types of groups. Viz. One for Goa?s development and the other saving
Goa (heritage etc).
He further said, there is no problem with further Goa?s development but at the same time one
should see how much land is available in Goa .
?Don?t compare Goa to Singapore or Dubai ?

JoeSays: Well, if Goa ?s population is 20 lakhs, imagine how many would be non-Goans, 50% ?
another 10 years then what ? Goans 20% and non-Goans 80% ? Saiba bhogos!!!

Other highlights:

NRI cell suggested by Luizinho Faleiro to Eduardo Faleiro

Minister Subash Shirokar repeatedly referred to Goans as ?Goanese?.
One Mr. Alwyn from Honkong corrected him once during the speech and then again during the Q &
A time saying that Goanese used as derogatory.But he continue using ?Goanese? I guess the
minister is used to the term ?Goanese? which he may have read in the books etc.

One Mr. Johnson Pereira, asked the ministers about the various schemes (they boasted during
their presentation) whether they are available in a book form or on the net. To this Luizinho
Faleiro showed a booklet on ?Citizens Charter?. I am sure this is not what he was asking
for.
Mr. Johnson, also suggested NRI Minister, to copy in all replies/actions to the delegates?
questions to all members who are registered with his website http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
so that everybody know what action has been taken etc.
Mr. Faleiro said , yes, this could be done.

One young lady asked what action has been taken to protect from mosquitoes or vector borne
diseases like dengue fever etc.
Minster says, there is not a single case of Dengue in Goa .

At the inactive session..
First day there were about 60 delegates
Second day there were about 40
Most of them fall in ?silent delegate? category (as we have silent members on the net)
Up to 80% of them were from GOA either ex. NRIs (retired ) or other OAPs who never been NRIs.

Half of them were ladies

There was one OAP (ex NRI) who during the question hours complained about the harassment he
received including disconnection of his water supply and he even showed his pipe / tools to
all which he brought in his bag.

Another OAP lady, stood up and started reading from the front page of a newspaper. Headline
?UK Co acquires 150-acre land in South Goa to build township?

At Morning session at Cidade:
During morning session , it seem there was a huge turn out of delegates but half of those
present there were Press people, other invitees, Ministers people. On last day alone, There
were about 20 people belonging to governor including plain cloth security.

Actual number of delegates was only seen after the lunch.

On the first day, dinner at Fort Aguada, the coach left the delegate there just before 7pm and
did not inform what time it will be back to pick up.
As the dinner started late, delegate started to leave around 11pm only to find there is no
coach. Enquired at both reception counters but they were not aware of any thing about the
coach. So, some made they own way back home. Next day, it was understood that coach was there
whic came to pick up around 11.45pm. Some one should have at least made an announcement from
the stage (open air stage where cultural program/dinner was held at Taj holiday village).

On final day, at the official residence of Govenor Jamir (Raj Bhavan) there was a cultural
programe of various Goan dances.

One Mr. Rene Baretto (from UK ) proposed a vote of thanks.

One Suggestion to Mr. Eduardo Faleiro:
No NRI or NRG come down to Goa just for NRI Convention.
We come here for a short period to be with our family etc.
Most of us would do anything to save one day/night in Bombay which we usually spent there
waiting is transit or next connecting flight to Goa .
3 days conventions seems to much to stay away from our family.
We simply can?t afford to give up to 18 hrs a day just for Convention.
e.g. A guy who left Cuncolim at 8am (first day) was back home at 2am next day. That's after
the dinner at Fort Aguada . It was said the dinner will start at 8pm but started at 10pm due
to ministers including CM coming in late. Again, next day dinner at Cidade was late too. It
was seen up to 80% joining the dinner (both days) were non-delegates in the name of GGC.
When we were watching the lovely cultural shows at all 3 different places, we remember our
wives and children too. The evening dinner/cultural programes etc should also be thrown open
to delegates immediate family aswell. At least they will be with us for some hours.
Also, the new site http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ be made more effective like interactive
programes etc so that we can put question to ministers etc. As most queries etc can be solved
on line, perhaps, there would be no need to hold coming conventions/conference for 3 days
again.

Check some photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363462/ Pool with mini Island

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362739/ Beach near Cidade
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362739&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362218/ with Dona Paula in background
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362218&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363864/ Raj Bhavan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347361508/ new Assembly complex

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347361237&size=o Miramar circle with mini cruise liner
near For Aguada

additional photo attached for Rich Text readers only




Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc
(for updates etc click below)
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/


Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
JoeGoaUk
2007-01-08 08:30:30 UTC
Permalink
I am not very good at making reports, so here I send it raw
If find boring, just check out some Goa photos in the end



Global Goans Convention (GGC) Jan.3 to Jan 5, 2007

Daily Programe (General)
10 am start at Hotel Cidade de Goa
1pm Working Lunch
3 pm Coach leaving for Secretariat for Ministers? presentation (except last day)
4.45 to 5.30pm and Qs & As time (except on the last day)
6 pm coach leaves for Fort Aguade for Dinner at 8 pm (First Day) hosted by CM
Second day dinner at Cidade de Goa hosted by Mr. Faleiro at 8pm
Third day a reception by Governor at his official residence (Raj Bhavan) 4.30 to 7pm

At Interactive session (secretariat)
Eduardo Faleiro arranged not only ministers but their secretaries too.
Secretary will note down all the questions put to his minister, and if action needed, they
will write to the delegate (person who needed answer/action) by email etc about the action or
follow-up within a month.

RP2011
As it was said earlier that this came up more than twice on the very fist day of Convention
during interacting time with ministers on Jan. 3.
Chief Minster was to attend but saw his deputy Wilfred D?souza instead.
As Tourism and Enviroment Minister Dr. Willy washed his hands saying RP2011 file had never
came to his office (except one memo about an amendment). Nor it was discussed by the Goa
cabinet. And that It was wrong to say every one agreed to RP2011
Earlier, during the morning session, CM said RP2011 can be changed if required.

JoeSays: The 45 minutes Question and Answers (Q&A) time was too less and Mr. Faleiro, as a
moderator, always seen saying ;?hurry up, time is fast running out?
Sometimes, he was even a bit rude to the delegates who stood up for question etc (I guess it
was his duty as a Moderator keeping in mind the very short time available). He even stopped
some ministers half way while they were giving their presentation i.e. painting rosy pictures
of themselves.
It may be said here, RP2011 was not the only reason NRGs attended the GGC.
If all came for RP2011 only, then all would have walked out together with the New York Couple.
However, they could still stand up in protest (if not walk out) but this things don?t usually
seen amongst the Goans.

Read here for Day 1 details
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052482.html


Garbage issue:
This too has come up more than once.
It was even said they have overcome problems/protests like Konkan Railways, Metha Strips etc
and how come this (Garbage) took so long ?
Ministers say.. The plant got be started somewhere but every one says ?not here, take it else
where? and how this will work ? It was also said that a party came forward to shoulder all
burden at their cost and in return we pay for the power that it will generate out of it
(Garbage).

Land issue:
When this came up about the sale land to foreigners/outsiders etc
Ministers question back saying ?Who are the people who sell this land, are they not Goans? ?

Dabolim Airport:
Navy promised 9 acres of land but not delivered yet.
Once the land is available, 10 to 11 wide body planes can be accommodated from current just 6.
Says Tourism Ministes (TM)

Golf Course:
No Japanese tourist will visit Goa if there is no Golf facilities.
So, one coming up (TM)

Oceanarium:
Goa going to have one world class Oceanarium.
7 application received so far. And waiting for final ?Go ahead signal? from the
centre/authority. TM


Passport/Imigration/Consular services etc

Chief Passport Officer (CPO) Mr. R R Dash
5.5 laks in Kuwait (70k Goans)
2.5 laks in Bharaim
1.5 million in UAE
1.7 million in Saudi
2 laks in Quatar
Over 4.5 millions in Gulf

-More than 40 lac passports issued up to 2006, (24k in Goa .)
Expected more than 45 laks in 2007
-E-Passport or biometric from 2008
-25 million passport in circulation
-Those spend 3 years abroad, are not required ENCR stamp.
-Degree authentication is done in Goa (previously only in Delhi )
-2.5 laks p.a Indian visas granted in France
-30 missions abroad to be outsourced soon (including France , UK etc Visas issue etc)

Goa: Panchayats/Senior citizesn.artists/unemployed graduates
-189 Villages,
-183 Panchayats
-About 9000 Graduate unemployed
-Rs.1, 200 pm to those needy artist at age 58 and above
-1.10 laks Senior citizens in state

Keith Vaz to bring Lester City football team to Goa at his own expense

Margao new Hospital/GMC
New Hospital work near KTC to start before end of current financial year.
2000 per day OPD patients at GMC

JoeSays: But it seems the process for land acquisition for the same is not completed yet.
Today, it was reported in local dailies that farmers of Dovandem, Margao have strongly opposed
the acquisition process of the agricultural land, which is reportedly underway to build a new
district hospital. Memos also been submitted to Governor and Chief secretary. They have also
suggested that the present Hospicio and TB hospital be modified and upgraded with modern
facilities and services or the new hospital be built at Monte Hill
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052682.html

8 NRGs felicitated
Awards were presented at the hands of Governor of Goa.
Who recommended the 8 people ?
It appear that all are recommend by their respective Indian Mission abroad
(Consulate/embassy). One of them had just completed 75 years on the day of the ceremony i.e.
Jan.5

NRG Investments in Goa :
CM says out of every Rs.5 invested in Goa , Re. 1 come from NRGs

Governor
?Statistics may say Goa ?s population is about 15 laks but as per my calculation it should be
about 20 lakhs.? Says 76 year old Goa Governor Mr. Jamir who is in Goa for more than 2years
now.
He also say there are two types of groups. Viz. One for Goa?s development and the other saving
Goa (heritage etc).
He further said, there is no problem with further Goa?s development but at the same time one
should see how much land is available in Goa .
?Don?t compare Goa to Singapore or Dubai ?

JoeSays: Well, if Goa ?s population is 20 lakhs, imagine how many would be non-Goans, 50% ?
another 10 years then what ? Goans 20% and non-Goans 80% ? Saiba bhogos!!!

Other highlights:

NRI cell suggested by Luizinho Faleiro to Eduardo Faleiro

Minister Subash Shirokar repeatedly referred to Goans as ?Goanese?.
One Mr. Alwyn from Honkong corrected him once during the speech and then again during the Q &
A time saying that Goanese used as derogatory.But he continue using ?Goanese? I guess the
minister is used to the term ?Goanese? which he may have read in the books etc.

One Mr. Johnson Pereira, asked the ministers about the various schemes (they boasted during
their presentation) whether they are available in a book form or on the net. To this Luizinho
Faleiro showed a booklet on ?Citizens Charter?. I am sure this is not what he was asking
for.
Mr. Johnson, also suggested NRI Minister, to copy in all replies/actions to the delegates?
questions to all members who are registered with his website http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
so that everybody know what action has been taken etc.
Mr. Faleiro said , yes, this could be done.

One young lady asked what action has been taken to protect from mosquitoes or vector borne
diseases like dengue fever etc.
Minster says, there is not a single case of Dengue in Goa .

At the inactive session..
First day there were about 60 delegates
Second day there were about 40
Most of them fall in ?silent delegate? category (as we have silent members on the net)
Up to 80% of them were from GOA either ex. NRIs (retired ) or other OAPs who never been NRIs.

Half of them were ladies

There was one OAP (ex NRI) who during the question hours complained about the harassment he
received including disconnection of his water supply and he even showed his pipe / tools to
all which he brought in his bag.

Another OAP lady, stood up and started reading from the front page of a newspaper. Headline
?UK Co acquires 150-acre land in South Goa to build township?

At Morning session at Cidade:
During morning session , it seem there was a huge turn out of delegates but half of those
present there were Press people, other invitees, Ministers people. On last day alone, There
were about 20 people belonging to governor including plain cloth security.

Actual number of delegates was only seen after the lunch.

On the first day, dinner at Fort Aguada, the coach left the delegate there just before 7pm and
did not inform what time it will be back to pick up.
As the dinner started late, delegate started to leave around 11pm only to find there is no
coach. Enquired at both reception counters but they were not aware of any thing about the
coach. So, some made they own way back home. Next day, it was understood that coach was there
whic came to pick up around 11.45pm. Some one should have at least made an announcement from
the stage (open air stage where cultural program/dinner was held at Taj holiday village).

On final day, at the official residence of Govenor Jamir (Raj Bhavan) there was a cultural
programe of various Goan dances.

One Mr. Rene Baretto (from UK ) proposed a vote of thanks.

One Suggestion to Mr. Eduardo Faleiro:
No NRI or NRG come down to Goa just for NRI Convention.
We come here for a short period to be with our family etc.
Most of us would do anything to save one day/night in Bombay which we usually spent there
waiting is transit or next connecting flight to Goa .
3 days conventions seems to much to stay away from our family.
We simply can?t afford to give up to 18 hrs a day just for Convention.
e.g. A guy who left Cuncolim at 8am (first day) was back home at 2am next day. That's after
the dinner at Fort Aguada . It was said the dinner will start at 8pm but started at 10pm due
to ministers including CM coming in late. Again, next day dinner at Cidade was late too. It
was seen up to 80% joining the dinner (both days) were non-delegates in the name of GGC.
When we were watching the lovely cultural shows at all 3 different places, we remember our
wives and children too. The evening dinner/cultural programes etc should also be thrown open
to delegates immediate family aswell. At least they will be with us for some hours.
Also, the new site http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ be made more effective like interactive
programes etc so that we can put question to ministers etc. As most queries etc can be solved
on line, perhaps, there would be no need to hold coming conventions/conference for 3 days
again.

Check some photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363462/ Pool with mini Island

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362739/ Beach near Cidade
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362739&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362218/ with Dona Paula in background
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362218&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363864/ Raj Bhavan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347361508/ new Assembly complex

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347361237&size=o Miramar circle with mini cruise liner
near For Aguada

additional photo attached for Rich Text readers only




Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc
(for updates etc click below)
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/


Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
JoeGoaUk
2007-01-08 08:30:30 UTC
Permalink
I am not very good at making reports, so here I send it raw
If find boring, just check out some Goa photos in the end



Global Goans Convention (GGC) Jan.3 to Jan 5, 2007

Daily Programe (General)
10 am start at Hotel Cidade de Goa
1pm Working Lunch
3 pm Coach leaving for Secretariat for Ministers? presentation (except last day)
4.45 to 5.30pm and Qs & As time (except on the last day)
6 pm coach leaves for Fort Aguade for Dinner at 8 pm (First Day) hosted by CM
Second day dinner at Cidade de Goa hosted by Mr. Faleiro at 8pm
Third day a reception by Governor at his official residence (Raj Bhavan) 4.30 to 7pm

At Interactive session (secretariat)
Eduardo Faleiro arranged not only ministers but their secretaries too.
Secretary will note down all the questions put to his minister, and if action needed, they
will write to the delegate (person who needed answer/action) by email etc about the action or
follow-up within a month.

RP2011
As it was said earlier that this came up more than twice on the very fist day of Convention
during interacting time with ministers on Jan. 3.
Chief Minster was to attend but saw his deputy Wilfred D?souza instead.
As Tourism and Enviroment Minister Dr. Willy washed his hands saying RP2011 file had never
came to his office (except one memo about an amendment). Nor it was discussed by the Goa
cabinet. And that It was wrong to say every one agreed to RP2011
Earlier, during the morning session, CM said RP2011 can be changed if required.

JoeSays: The 45 minutes Question and Answers (Q&A) time was too less and Mr. Faleiro, as a
moderator, always seen saying ;?hurry up, time is fast running out?
Sometimes, he was even a bit rude to the delegates who stood up for question etc (I guess it
was his duty as a Moderator keeping in mind the very short time available). He even stopped
some ministers half way while they were giving their presentation i.e. painting rosy pictures
of themselves.
It may be said here, RP2011 was not the only reason NRGs attended the GGC.
If all came for RP2011 only, then all would have walked out together with the New York Couple.
However, they could still stand up in protest (if not walk out) but this things don?t usually
seen amongst the Goans.

Read here for Day 1 details
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052482.html


Garbage issue:
This too has come up more than once.
It was even said they have overcome problems/protests like Konkan Railways, Metha Strips etc
and how come this (Garbage) took so long ?
Ministers say.. The plant got be started somewhere but every one says ?not here, take it else
where? and how this will work ? It was also said that a party came forward to shoulder all
burden at their cost and in return we pay for the power that it will generate out of it
(Garbage).

Land issue:
When this came up about the sale land to foreigners/outsiders etc
Ministers question back saying ?Who are the people who sell this land, are they not Goans? ?

Dabolim Airport:
Navy promised 9 acres of land but not delivered yet.
Once the land is available, 10 to 11 wide body planes can be accommodated from current just 6.
Says Tourism Ministes (TM)

Golf Course:
No Japanese tourist will visit Goa if there is no Golf facilities.
So, one coming up (TM)

Oceanarium:
Goa going to have one world class Oceanarium.
7 application received so far. And waiting for final ?Go ahead signal? from the
centre/authority. TM


Passport/Imigration/Consular services etc

Chief Passport Officer (CPO) Mr. R R Dash
5.5 laks in Kuwait (70k Goans)
2.5 laks in Bharaim
1.5 million in UAE
1.7 million in Saudi
2 laks in Quatar
Over 4.5 millions in Gulf

-More than 40 lac passports issued up to 2006, (24k in Goa .)
Expected more than 45 laks in 2007
-E-Passport or biometric from 2008
-25 million passport in circulation
-Those spend 3 years abroad, are not required ENCR stamp.
-Degree authentication is done in Goa (previously only in Delhi )
-2.5 laks p.a Indian visas granted in France
-30 missions abroad to be outsourced soon (including France , UK etc Visas issue etc)

Goa: Panchayats/Senior citizesn.artists/unemployed graduates
-189 Villages,
-183 Panchayats
-About 9000 Graduate unemployed
-Rs.1, 200 pm to those needy artist at age 58 and above
-1.10 laks Senior citizens in state

Keith Vaz to bring Lester City football team to Goa at his own expense

Margao new Hospital/GMC
New Hospital work near KTC to start before end of current financial year.
2000 per day OPD patients at GMC

JoeSays: But it seems the process for land acquisition for the same is not completed yet.
Today, it was reported in local dailies that farmers of Dovandem, Margao have strongly opposed
the acquisition process of the agricultural land, which is reportedly underway to build a new
district hospital. Memos also been submitted to Governor and Chief secretary. They have also
suggested that the present Hospicio and TB hospital be modified and upgraded with modern
facilities and services or the new hospital be built at Monte Hill
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052682.html

8 NRGs felicitated
Awards were presented at the hands of Governor of Goa.
Who recommended the 8 people ?
It appear that all are recommend by their respective Indian Mission abroad
(Consulate/embassy). One of them had just completed 75 years on the day of the ceremony i.e.
Jan.5

NRG Investments in Goa :
CM says out of every Rs.5 invested in Goa , Re. 1 come from NRGs

Governor
?Statistics may say Goa ?s population is about 15 laks but as per my calculation it should be
about 20 lakhs.? Says 76 year old Goa Governor Mr. Jamir who is in Goa for more than 2years
now.
He also say there are two types of groups. Viz. One for Goa?s development and the other saving
Goa (heritage etc).
He further said, there is no problem with further Goa?s development but at the same time one
should see how much land is available in Goa .
?Don?t compare Goa to Singapore or Dubai ?

JoeSays: Well, if Goa ?s population is 20 lakhs, imagine how many would be non-Goans, 50% ?
another 10 years then what ? Goans 20% and non-Goans 80% ? Saiba bhogos!!!

Other highlights:

NRI cell suggested by Luizinho Faleiro to Eduardo Faleiro

Minister Subash Shirokar repeatedly referred to Goans as ?Goanese?.
One Mr. Alwyn from Honkong corrected him once during the speech and then again during the Q &
A time saying that Goanese used as derogatory.But he continue using ?Goanese? I guess the
minister is used to the term ?Goanese? which he may have read in the books etc.

One Mr. Johnson Pereira, asked the ministers about the various schemes (they boasted during
their presentation) whether they are available in a book form or on the net. To this Luizinho
Faleiro showed a booklet on ?Citizens Charter?. I am sure this is not what he was asking
for.
Mr. Johnson, also suggested NRI Minister, to copy in all replies/actions to the delegates?
questions to all members who are registered with his website http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
so that everybody know what action has been taken etc.
Mr. Faleiro said , yes, this could be done.

One young lady asked what action has been taken to protect from mosquitoes or vector borne
diseases like dengue fever etc.
Minster says, there is not a single case of Dengue in Goa .

At the inactive session..
First day there were about 60 delegates
Second day there were about 40
Most of them fall in ?silent delegate? category (as we have silent members on the net)
Up to 80% of them were from GOA either ex. NRIs (retired ) or other OAPs who never been NRIs.

Half of them were ladies

There was one OAP (ex NRI) who during the question hours complained about the harassment he
received including disconnection of his water supply and he even showed his pipe / tools to
all which he brought in his bag.

Another OAP lady, stood up and started reading from the front page of a newspaper. Headline
?UK Co acquires 150-acre land in South Goa to build township?

At Morning session at Cidade:
During morning session , it seem there was a huge turn out of delegates but half of those
present there were Press people, other invitees, Ministers people. On last day alone, There
were about 20 people belonging to governor including plain cloth security.

Actual number of delegates was only seen after the lunch.

On the first day, dinner at Fort Aguada, the coach left the delegate there just before 7pm and
did not inform what time it will be back to pick up.
As the dinner started late, delegate started to leave around 11pm only to find there is no
coach. Enquired at both reception counters but they were not aware of any thing about the
coach. So, some made they own way back home. Next day, it was understood that coach was there
whic came to pick up around 11.45pm. Some one should have at least made an announcement from
the stage (open air stage where cultural program/dinner was held at Taj holiday village).

On final day, at the official residence of Govenor Jamir (Raj Bhavan) there was a cultural
programe of various Goan dances.

One Mr. Rene Baretto (from UK ) proposed a vote of thanks.

One Suggestion to Mr. Eduardo Faleiro:
No NRI or NRG come down to Goa just for NRI Convention.
We come here for a short period to be with our family etc.
Most of us would do anything to save one day/night in Bombay which we usually spent there
waiting is transit or next connecting flight to Goa .
3 days conventions seems to much to stay away from our family.
We simply can?t afford to give up to 18 hrs a day just for Convention.
e.g. A guy who left Cuncolim at 8am (first day) was back home at 2am next day. That's after
the dinner at Fort Aguada . It was said the dinner will start at 8pm but started at 10pm due
to ministers including CM coming in late. Again, next day dinner at Cidade was late too. It
was seen up to 80% joining the dinner (both days) were non-delegates in the name of GGC.
When we were watching the lovely cultural shows at all 3 different places, we remember our
wives and children too. The evening dinner/cultural programes etc should also be thrown open
to delegates immediate family aswell. At least they will be with us for some hours.
Also, the new site http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ be made more effective like interactive
programes etc so that we can put question to ministers etc. As most queries etc can be solved
on line, perhaps, there would be no need to hold coming conventions/conference for 3 days
again.

Check some photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363462/ Pool with mini Island

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362739/ Beach near Cidade
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362739&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362218/ with Dona Paula in background
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362218&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363864/ Raj Bhavan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347361508/ new Assembly complex

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347361237&size=o Miramar circle with mini cruise liner
near For Aguada

additional photo attached for Rich Text readers only




Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc
(for updates etc click below)
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/


Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
JoeGoaUk
2007-01-08 08:30:30 UTC
Permalink
I am not very good at making reports, so here I send it raw
If find boring, just check out some Goa photos in the end



Global Goans Convention (GGC) Jan.3 to Jan 5, 2007

Daily Programe (General)
10 am start at Hotel Cidade de Goa
1pm Working Lunch
3 pm Coach leaving for Secretariat for Ministers? presentation (except last day)
4.45 to 5.30pm and Qs & As time (except on the last day)
6 pm coach leaves for Fort Aguade for Dinner at 8 pm (First Day) hosted by CM
Second day dinner at Cidade de Goa hosted by Mr. Faleiro at 8pm
Third day a reception by Governor at his official residence (Raj Bhavan) 4.30 to 7pm

At Interactive session (secretariat)
Eduardo Faleiro arranged not only ministers but their secretaries too.
Secretary will note down all the questions put to his minister, and if action needed, they
will write to the delegate (person who needed answer/action) by email etc about the action or
follow-up within a month.

RP2011
As it was said earlier that this came up more than twice on the very fist day of Convention
during interacting time with ministers on Jan. 3.
Chief Minster was to attend but saw his deputy Wilfred D?souza instead.
As Tourism and Enviroment Minister Dr. Willy washed his hands saying RP2011 file had never
came to his office (except one memo about an amendment). Nor it was discussed by the Goa
cabinet. And that It was wrong to say every one agreed to RP2011
Earlier, during the morning session, CM said RP2011 can be changed if required.

JoeSays: The 45 minutes Question and Answers (Q&A) time was too less and Mr. Faleiro, as a
moderator, always seen saying ;?hurry up, time is fast running out?
Sometimes, he was even a bit rude to the delegates who stood up for question etc (I guess it
was his duty as a Moderator keeping in mind the very short time available). He even stopped
some ministers half way while they were giving their presentation i.e. painting rosy pictures
of themselves.
It may be said here, RP2011 was not the only reason NRGs attended the GGC.
If all came for RP2011 only, then all would have walked out together with the New York Couple.
However, they could still stand up in protest (if not walk out) but this things don?t usually
seen amongst the Goans.

Read here for Day 1 details
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052482.html


Garbage issue:
This too has come up more than once.
It was even said they have overcome problems/protests like Konkan Railways, Metha Strips etc
and how come this (Garbage) took so long ?
Ministers say.. The plant got be started somewhere but every one says ?not here, take it else
where? and how this will work ? It was also said that a party came forward to shoulder all
burden at their cost and in return we pay for the power that it will generate out of it
(Garbage).

Land issue:
When this came up about the sale land to foreigners/outsiders etc
Ministers question back saying ?Who are the people who sell this land, are they not Goans? ?

Dabolim Airport:
Navy promised 9 acres of land but not delivered yet.
Once the land is available, 10 to 11 wide body planes can be accommodated from current just 6.
Says Tourism Ministes (TM)

Golf Course:
No Japanese tourist will visit Goa if there is no Golf facilities.
So, one coming up (TM)

Oceanarium:
Goa going to have one world class Oceanarium.
7 application received so far. And waiting for final ?Go ahead signal? from the
centre/authority. TM


Passport/Imigration/Consular services etc

Chief Passport Officer (CPO) Mr. R R Dash
5.5 laks in Kuwait (70k Goans)
2.5 laks in Bharaim
1.5 million in UAE
1.7 million in Saudi
2 laks in Quatar
Over 4.5 millions in Gulf

-More than 40 lac passports issued up to 2006, (24k in Goa .)
Expected more than 45 laks in 2007
-E-Passport or biometric from 2008
-25 million passport in circulation
-Those spend 3 years abroad, are not required ENCR stamp.
-Degree authentication is done in Goa (previously only in Delhi )
-2.5 laks p.a Indian visas granted in France
-30 missions abroad to be outsourced soon (including France , UK etc Visas issue etc)

Goa: Panchayats/Senior citizesn.artists/unemployed graduates
-189 Villages,
-183 Panchayats
-About 9000 Graduate unemployed
-Rs.1, 200 pm to those needy artist at age 58 and above
-1.10 laks Senior citizens in state

Keith Vaz to bring Lester City football team to Goa at his own expense

Margao new Hospital/GMC
New Hospital work near KTC to start before end of current financial year.
2000 per day OPD patients at GMC

JoeSays: But it seems the process for land acquisition for the same is not completed yet.
Today, it was reported in local dailies that farmers of Dovandem, Margao have strongly opposed
the acquisition process of the agricultural land, which is reportedly underway to build a new
district hospital. Memos also been submitted to Governor and Chief secretary. They have also
suggested that the present Hospicio and TB hospital be modified and upgraded with modern
facilities and services or the new hospital be built at Monte Hill
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052682.html

8 NRGs felicitated
Awards were presented at the hands of Governor of Goa.
Who recommended the 8 people ?
It appear that all are recommend by their respective Indian Mission abroad
(Consulate/embassy). One of them had just completed 75 years on the day of the ceremony i.e.
Jan.5

NRG Investments in Goa :
CM says out of every Rs.5 invested in Goa , Re. 1 come from NRGs

Governor
?Statistics may say Goa ?s population is about 15 laks but as per my calculation it should be
about 20 lakhs.? Says 76 year old Goa Governor Mr. Jamir who is in Goa for more than 2years
now.
He also say there are two types of groups. Viz. One for Goa?s development and the other saving
Goa (heritage etc).
He further said, there is no problem with further Goa?s development but at the same time one
should see how much land is available in Goa .
?Don?t compare Goa to Singapore or Dubai ?

JoeSays: Well, if Goa ?s population is 20 lakhs, imagine how many would be non-Goans, 50% ?
another 10 years then what ? Goans 20% and non-Goans 80% ? Saiba bhogos!!!

Other highlights:

NRI cell suggested by Luizinho Faleiro to Eduardo Faleiro

Minister Subash Shirokar repeatedly referred to Goans as ?Goanese?.
One Mr. Alwyn from Honkong corrected him once during the speech and then again during the Q &
A time saying that Goanese used as derogatory.But he continue using ?Goanese? I guess the
minister is used to the term ?Goanese? which he may have read in the books etc.

One Mr. Johnson Pereira, asked the ministers about the various schemes (they boasted during
their presentation) whether they are available in a book form or on the net. To this Luizinho
Faleiro showed a booklet on ?Citizens Charter?. I am sure this is not what he was asking
for.
Mr. Johnson, also suggested NRI Minister, to copy in all replies/actions to the delegates?
questions to all members who are registered with his website http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
so that everybody know what action has been taken etc.
Mr. Faleiro said , yes, this could be done.

One young lady asked what action has been taken to protect from mosquitoes or vector borne
diseases like dengue fever etc.
Minster says, there is not a single case of Dengue in Goa .

At the inactive session..
First day there were about 60 delegates
Second day there were about 40
Most of them fall in ?silent delegate? category (as we have silent members on the net)
Up to 80% of them were from GOA either ex. NRIs (retired ) or other OAPs who never been NRIs.

Half of them were ladies

There was one OAP (ex NRI) who during the question hours complained about the harassment he
received including disconnection of his water supply and he even showed his pipe / tools to
all which he brought in his bag.

Another OAP lady, stood up and started reading from the front page of a newspaper. Headline
?UK Co acquires 150-acre land in South Goa to build township?

At Morning session at Cidade:
During morning session , it seem there was a huge turn out of delegates but half of those
present there were Press people, other invitees, Ministers people. On last day alone, There
were about 20 people belonging to governor including plain cloth security.

Actual number of delegates was only seen after the lunch.

On the first day, dinner at Fort Aguada, the coach left the delegate there just before 7pm and
did not inform what time it will be back to pick up.
As the dinner started late, delegate started to leave around 11pm only to find there is no
coach. Enquired at both reception counters but they were not aware of any thing about the
coach. So, some made they own way back home. Next day, it was understood that coach was there
whic came to pick up around 11.45pm. Some one should have at least made an announcement from
the stage (open air stage where cultural program/dinner was held at Taj holiday village).

On final day, at the official residence of Govenor Jamir (Raj Bhavan) there was a cultural
programe of various Goan dances.

One Mr. Rene Baretto (from UK ) proposed a vote of thanks.

One Suggestion to Mr. Eduardo Faleiro:
No NRI or NRG come down to Goa just for NRI Convention.
We come here for a short period to be with our family etc.
Most of us would do anything to save one day/night in Bombay which we usually spent there
waiting is transit or next connecting flight to Goa .
3 days conventions seems to much to stay away from our family.
We simply can?t afford to give up to 18 hrs a day just for Convention.
e.g. A guy who left Cuncolim at 8am (first day) was back home at 2am next day. That's after
the dinner at Fort Aguada . It was said the dinner will start at 8pm but started at 10pm due
to ministers including CM coming in late. Again, next day dinner at Cidade was late too. It
was seen up to 80% joining the dinner (both days) were non-delegates in the name of GGC.
When we were watching the lovely cultural shows at all 3 different places, we remember our
wives and children too. The evening dinner/cultural programes etc should also be thrown open
to delegates immediate family aswell. At least they will be with us for some hours.
Also, the new site http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ be made more effective like interactive
programes etc so that we can put question to ministers etc. As most queries etc can be solved
on line, perhaps, there would be no need to hold coming conventions/conference for 3 days
again.

Check some photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363462/ Pool with mini Island

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362739/ Beach near Cidade
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362739&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362218/ with Dona Paula in background
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362218&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363864/ Raj Bhavan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347361508/ new Assembly complex

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347361237&size=o Miramar circle with mini cruise liner
near For Aguada

additional photo attached for Rich Text readers only




Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc
(for updates etc click below)
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/


Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
JoeGoaUk
2007-01-08 08:30:30 UTC
Permalink
I am not very good at making reports, so here I send it raw
If find boring, just check out some Goa photos in the end



Global Goans Convention (GGC) Jan.3 to Jan 5, 2007

Daily Programe (General)
10 am start at Hotel Cidade de Goa
1pm Working Lunch
3 pm Coach leaving for Secretariat for Ministers? presentation (except last day)
4.45 to 5.30pm and Qs & As time (except on the last day)
6 pm coach leaves for Fort Aguade for Dinner at 8 pm (First Day) hosted by CM
Second day dinner at Cidade de Goa hosted by Mr. Faleiro at 8pm
Third day a reception by Governor at his official residence (Raj Bhavan) 4.30 to 7pm

At Interactive session (secretariat)
Eduardo Faleiro arranged not only ministers but their secretaries too.
Secretary will note down all the questions put to his minister, and if action needed, they
will write to the delegate (person who needed answer/action) by email etc about the action or
follow-up within a month.

RP2011
As it was said earlier that this came up more than twice on the very fist day of Convention
during interacting time with ministers on Jan. 3.
Chief Minster was to attend but saw his deputy Wilfred D?souza instead.
As Tourism and Enviroment Minister Dr. Willy washed his hands saying RP2011 file had never
came to his office (except one memo about an amendment). Nor it was discussed by the Goa
cabinet. And that It was wrong to say every one agreed to RP2011
Earlier, during the morning session, CM said RP2011 can be changed if required.

JoeSays: The 45 minutes Question and Answers (Q&A) time was too less and Mr. Faleiro, as a
moderator, always seen saying ;?hurry up, time is fast running out?
Sometimes, he was even a bit rude to the delegates who stood up for question etc (I guess it
was his duty as a Moderator keeping in mind the very short time available). He even stopped
some ministers half way while they were giving their presentation i.e. painting rosy pictures
of themselves.
It may be said here, RP2011 was not the only reason NRGs attended the GGC.
If all came for RP2011 only, then all would have walked out together with the New York Couple.
However, they could still stand up in protest (if not walk out) but this things don?t usually
seen amongst the Goans.

Read here for Day 1 details
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052482.html


Garbage issue:
This too has come up more than once.
It was even said they have overcome problems/protests like Konkan Railways, Metha Strips etc
and how come this (Garbage) took so long ?
Ministers say.. The plant got be started somewhere but every one says ?not here, take it else
where? and how this will work ? It was also said that a party came forward to shoulder all
burden at their cost and in return we pay for the power that it will generate out of it
(Garbage).

Land issue:
When this came up about the sale land to foreigners/outsiders etc
Ministers question back saying ?Who are the people who sell this land, are they not Goans? ?

Dabolim Airport:
Navy promised 9 acres of land but not delivered yet.
Once the land is available, 10 to 11 wide body planes can be accommodated from current just 6.
Says Tourism Ministes (TM)

Golf Course:
No Japanese tourist will visit Goa if there is no Golf facilities.
So, one coming up (TM)

Oceanarium:
Goa going to have one world class Oceanarium.
7 application received so far. And waiting for final ?Go ahead signal? from the
centre/authority. TM


Passport/Imigration/Consular services etc

Chief Passport Officer (CPO) Mr. R R Dash
5.5 laks in Kuwait (70k Goans)
2.5 laks in Bharaim
1.5 million in UAE
1.7 million in Saudi
2 laks in Quatar
Over 4.5 millions in Gulf

-More than 40 lac passports issued up to 2006, (24k in Goa .)
Expected more than 45 laks in 2007
-E-Passport or biometric from 2008
-25 million passport in circulation
-Those spend 3 years abroad, are not required ENCR stamp.
-Degree authentication is done in Goa (previously only in Delhi )
-2.5 laks p.a Indian visas granted in France
-30 missions abroad to be outsourced soon (including France , UK etc Visas issue etc)

Goa: Panchayats/Senior citizesn.artists/unemployed graduates
-189 Villages,
-183 Panchayats
-About 9000 Graduate unemployed
-Rs.1, 200 pm to those needy artist at age 58 and above
-1.10 laks Senior citizens in state

Keith Vaz to bring Lester City football team to Goa at his own expense

Margao new Hospital/GMC
New Hospital work near KTC to start before end of current financial year.
2000 per day OPD patients at GMC

JoeSays: But it seems the process for land acquisition for the same is not completed yet.
Today, it was reported in local dailies that farmers of Dovandem, Margao have strongly opposed
the acquisition process of the agricultural land, which is reportedly underway to build a new
district hospital. Memos also been submitted to Governor and Chief secretary. They have also
suggested that the present Hospicio and TB hospital be modified and upgraded with modern
facilities and services or the new hospital be built at Monte Hill
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052682.html

8 NRGs felicitated
Awards were presented at the hands of Governor of Goa.
Who recommended the 8 people ?
It appear that all are recommend by their respective Indian Mission abroad
(Consulate/embassy). One of them had just completed 75 years on the day of the ceremony i.e.
Jan.5

NRG Investments in Goa :
CM says out of every Rs.5 invested in Goa , Re. 1 come from NRGs

Governor
?Statistics may say Goa ?s population is about 15 laks but as per my calculation it should be
about 20 lakhs.? Says 76 year old Goa Governor Mr. Jamir who is in Goa for more than 2years
now.
He also say there are two types of groups. Viz. One for Goa?s development and the other saving
Goa (heritage etc).
He further said, there is no problem with further Goa?s development but at the same time one
should see how much land is available in Goa .
?Don?t compare Goa to Singapore or Dubai ?

JoeSays: Well, if Goa ?s population is 20 lakhs, imagine how many would be non-Goans, 50% ?
another 10 years then what ? Goans 20% and non-Goans 80% ? Saiba bhogos!!!

Other highlights:

NRI cell suggested by Luizinho Faleiro to Eduardo Faleiro

Minister Subash Shirokar repeatedly referred to Goans as ?Goanese?.
One Mr. Alwyn from Honkong corrected him once during the speech and then again during the Q &
A time saying that Goanese used as derogatory.But he continue using ?Goanese? I guess the
minister is used to the term ?Goanese? which he may have read in the books etc.

One Mr. Johnson Pereira, asked the ministers about the various schemes (they boasted during
their presentation) whether they are available in a book form or on the net. To this Luizinho
Faleiro showed a booklet on ?Citizens Charter?. I am sure this is not what he was asking
for.
Mr. Johnson, also suggested NRI Minister, to copy in all replies/actions to the delegates?
questions to all members who are registered with his website http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
so that everybody know what action has been taken etc.
Mr. Faleiro said , yes, this could be done.

One young lady asked what action has been taken to protect from mosquitoes or vector borne
diseases like dengue fever etc.
Minster says, there is not a single case of Dengue in Goa .

At the inactive session..
First day there were about 60 delegates
Second day there were about 40
Most of them fall in ?silent delegate? category (as we have silent members on the net)
Up to 80% of them were from GOA either ex. NRIs (retired ) or other OAPs who never been NRIs.

Half of them were ladies

There was one OAP (ex NRI) who during the question hours complained about the harassment he
received including disconnection of his water supply and he even showed his pipe / tools to
all which he brought in his bag.

Another OAP lady, stood up and started reading from the front page of a newspaper. Headline
?UK Co acquires 150-acre land in South Goa to build township?

At Morning session at Cidade:
During morning session , it seem there was a huge turn out of delegates but half of those
present there were Press people, other invitees, Ministers people. On last day alone, There
were about 20 people belonging to governor including plain cloth security.

Actual number of delegates was only seen after the lunch.

On the first day, dinner at Fort Aguada, the coach left the delegate there just before 7pm and
did not inform what time it will be back to pick up.
As the dinner started late, delegate started to leave around 11pm only to find there is no
coach. Enquired at both reception counters but they were not aware of any thing about the
coach. So, some made they own way back home. Next day, it was understood that coach was there
whic came to pick up around 11.45pm. Some one should have at least made an announcement from
the stage (open air stage where cultural program/dinner was held at Taj holiday village).

On final day, at the official residence of Govenor Jamir (Raj Bhavan) there was a cultural
programe of various Goan dances.

One Mr. Rene Baretto (from UK ) proposed a vote of thanks.

One Suggestion to Mr. Eduardo Faleiro:
No NRI or NRG come down to Goa just for NRI Convention.
We come here for a short period to be with our family etc.
Most of us would do anything to save one day/night in Bombay which we usually spent there
waiting is transit or next connecting flight to Goa .
3 days conventions seems to much to stay away from our family.
We simply can?t afford to give up to 18 hrs a day just for Convention.
e.g. A guy who left Cuncolim at 8am (first day) was back home at 2am next day. That's after
the dinner at Fort Aguada . It was said the dinner will start at 8pm but started at 10pm due
to ministers including CM coming in late. Again, next day dinner at Cidade was late too. It
was seen up to 80% joining the dinner (both days) were non-delegates in the name of GGC.
When we were watching the lovely cultural shows at all 3 different places, we remember our
wives and children too. The evening dinner/cultural programes etc should also be thrown open
to delegates immediate family aswell. At least they will be with us for some hours.
Also, the new site http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ be made more effective like interactive
programes etc so that we can put question to ministers etc. As most queries etc can be solved
on line, perhaps, there would be no need to hold coming conventions/conference for 3 days
again.

Check some photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363462/ Pool with mini Island

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362739/ Beach near Cidade
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362739&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362218/ with Dona Paula in background
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362218&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363864/ Raj Bhavan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347361508/ new Assembly complex

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347361237&size=o Miramar circle with mini cruise liner
near For Aguada

additional photo attached for Rich Text readers only




Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc
(for updates etc click below)
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2007-01-08 08:30:30 UTC
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I am not very good at making reports, so here I send it raw
If find boring, just check out some Goa photos in the end



Global Goans Convention (GGC) Jan.3 to Jan 5, 2007

Daily Programe (General)
10 am start at Hotel Cidade de Goa
1pm Working Lunch
3 pm Coach leaving for Secretariat for Ministers? presentation (except last day)
4.45 to 5.30pm and Qs & As time (except on the last day)
6 pm coach leaves for Fort Aguade for Dinner at 8 pm (First Day) hosted by CM
Second day dinner at Cidade de Goa hosted by Mr. Faleiro at 8pm
Third day a reception by Governor at his official residence (Raj Bhavan) 4.30 to 7pm

At Interactive session (secretariat)
Eduardo Faleiro arranged not only ministers but their secretaries too.
Secretary will note down all the questions put to his minister, and if action needed, they
will write to the delegate (person who needed answer/action) by email etc about the action or
follow-up within a month.

RP2011
As it was said earlier that this came up more than twice on the very fist day of Convention
during interacting time with ministers on Jan. 3.
Chief Minster was to attend but saw his deputy Wilfred D?souza instead.
As Tourism and Enviroment Minister Dr. Willy washed his hands saying RP2011 file had never
came to his office (except one memo about an amendment). Nor it was discussed by the Goa
cabinet. And that It was wrong to say every one agreed to RP2011
Earlier, during the morning session, CM said RP2011 can be changed if required.

JoeSays: The 45 minutes Question and Answers (Q&A) time was too less and Mr. Faleiro, as a
moderator, always seen saying ;?hurry up, time is fast running out?
Sometimes, he was even a bit rude to the delegates who stood up for question etc (I guess it
was his duty as a Moderator keeping in mind the very short time available). He even stopped
some ministers half way while they were giving their presentation i.e. painting rosy pictures
of themselves.
It may be said here, RP2011 was not the only reason NRGs attended the GGC.
If all came for RP2011 only, then all would have walked out together with the New York Couple.
However, they could still stand up in protest (if not walk out) but this things don?t usually
seen amongst the Goans.

Read here for Day 1 details
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052482.html


Garbage issue:
This too has come up more than once.
It was even said they have overcome problems/protests like Konkan Railways, Metha Strips etc
and how come this (Garbage) took so long ?
Ministers say.. The plant got be started somewhere but every one says ?not here, take it else
where? and how this will work ? It was also said that a party came forward to shoulder all
burden at their cost and in return we pay for the power that it will generate out of it
(Garbage).

Land issue:
When this came up about the sale land to foreigners/outsiders etc
Ministers question back saying ?Who are the people who sell this land, are they not Goans? ?

Dabolim Airport:
Navy promised 9 acres of land but not delivered yet.
Once the land is available, 10 to 11 wide body planes can be accommodated from current just 6.
Says Tourism Ministes (TM)

Golf Course:
No Japanese tourist will visit Goa if there is no Golf facilities.
So, one coming up (TM)

Oceanarium:
Goa going to have one world class Oceanarium.
7 application received so far. And waiting for final ?Go ahead signal? from the
centre/authority. TM


Passport/Imigration/Consular services etc

Chief Passport Officer (CPO) Mr. R R Dash
5.5 laks in Kuwait (70k Goans)
2.5 laks in Bharaim
1.5 million in UAE
1.7 million in Saudi
2 laks in Quatar
Over 4.5 millions in Gulf

-More than 40 lac passports issued up to 2006, (24k in Goa .)
Expected more than 45 laks in 2007
-E-Passport or biometric from 2008
-25 million passport in circulation
-Those spend 3 years abroad, are not required ENCR stamp.
-Degree authentication is done in Goa (previously only in Delhi )
-2.5 laks p.a Indian visas granted in France
-30 missions abroad to be outsourced soon (including France , UK etc Visas issue etc)

Goa: Panchayats/Senior citizesn.artists/unemployed graduates
-189 Villages,
-183 Panchayats
-About 9000 Graduate unemployed
-Rs.1, 200 pm to those needy artist at age 58 and above
-1.10 laks Senior citizens in state

Keith Vaz to bring Lester City football team to Goa at his own expense

Margao new Hospital/GMC
New Hospital work near KTC to start before end of current financial year.
2000 per day OPD patients at GMC

JoeSays: But it seems the process for land acquisition for the same is not completed yet.
Today, it was reported in local dailies that farmers of Dovandem, Margao have strongly opposed
the acquisition process of the agricultural land, which is reportedly underway to build a new
district hospital. Memos also been submitted to Governor and Chief secretary. They have also
suggested that the present Hospicio and TB hospital be modified and upgraded with modern
facilities and services or the new hospital be built at Monte Hill
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052682.html

8 NRGs felicitated
Awards were presented at the hands of Governor of Goa.
Who recommended the 8 people ?
It appear that all are recommend by their respective Indian Mission abroad
(Consulate/embassy). One of them had just completed 75 years on the day of the ceremony i.e.
Jan.5

NRG Investments in Goa :
CM says out of every Rs.5 invested in Goa , Re. 1 come from NRGs

Governor
?Statistics may say Goa ?s population is about 15 laks but as per my calculation it should be
about 20 lakhs.? Says 76 year old Goa Governor Mr. Jamir who is in Goa for more than 2years
now.
He also say there are two types of groups. Viz. One for Goa?s development and the other saving
Goa (heritage etc).
He further said, there is no problem with further Goa?s development but at the same time one
should see how much land is available in Goa .
?Don?t compare Goa to Singapore or Dubai ?

JoeSays: Well, if Goa ?s population is 20 lakhs, imagine how many would be non-Goans, 50% ?
another 10 years then what ? Goans 20% and non-Goans 80% ? Saiba bhogos!!!

Other highlights:

NRI cell suggested by Luizinho Faleiro to Eduardo Faleiro

Minister Subash Shirokar repeatedly referred to Goans as ?Goanese?.
One Mr. Alwyn from Honkong corrected him once during the speech and then again during the Q &
A time saying that Goanese used as derogatory.But he continue using ?Goanese? I guess the
minister is used to the term ?Goanese? which he may have read in the books etc.

One Mr. Johnson Pereira, asked the ministers about the various schemes (they boasted during
their presentation) whether they are available in a book form or on the net. To this Luizinho
Faleiro showed a booklet on ?Citizens Charter?. I am sure this is not what he was asking
for.
Mr. Johnson, also suggested NRI Minister, to copy in all replies/actions to the delegates?
questions to all members who are registered with his website http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
so that everybody know what action has been taken etc.
Mr. Faleiro said , yes, this could be done.

One young lady asked what action has been taken to protect from mosquitoes or vector borne
diseases like dengue fever etc.
Minster says, there is not a single case of Dengue in Goa .

At the inactive session..
First day there were about 60 delegates
Second day there were about 40
Most of them fall in ?silent delegate? category (as we have silent members on the net)
Up to 80% of them were from GOA either ex. NRIs (retired ) or other OAPs who never been NRIs.

Half of them were ladies

There was one OAP (ex NRI) who during the question hours complained about the harassment he
received including disconnection of his water supply and he even showed his pipe / tools to
all which he brought in his bag.

Another OAP lady, stood up and started reading from the front page of a newspaper. Headline
?UK Co acquires 150-acre land in South Goa to build township?

At Morning session at Cidade:
During morning session , it seem there was a huge turn out of delegates but half of those
present there were Press people, other invitees, Ministers people. On last day alone, There
were about 20 people belonging to governor including plain cloth security.

Actual number of delegates was only seen after the lunch.

On the first day, dinner at Fort Aguada, the coach left the delegate there just before 7pm and
did not inform what time it will be back to pick up.
As the dinner started late, delegate started to leave around 11pm only to find there is no
coach. Enquired at both reception counters but they were not aware of any thing about the
coach. So, some made they own way back home. Next day, it was understood that coach was there
whic came to pick up around 11.45pm. Some one should have at least made an announcement from
the stage (open air stage where cultural program/dinner was held at Taj holiday village).

On final day, at the official residence of Govenor Jamir (Raj Bhavan) there was a cultural
programe of various Goan dances.

One Mr. Rene Baretto (from UK ) proposed a vote of thanks.

One Suggestion to Mr. Eduardo Faleiro:
No NRI or NRG come down to Goa just for NRI Convention.
We come here for a short period to be with our family etc.
Most of us would do anything to save one day/night in Bombay which we usually spent there
waiting is transit or next connecting flight to Goa .
3 days conventions seems to much to stay away from our family.
We simply can?t afford to give up to 18 hrs a day just for Convention.
e.g. A guy who left Cuncolim at 8am (first day) was back home at 2am next day. That's after
the dinner at Fort Aguada . It was said the dinner will start at 8pm but started at 10pm due
to ministers including CM coming in late. Again, next day dinner at Cidade was late too. It
was seen up to 80% joining the dinner (both days) were non-delegates in the name of GGC.
When we were watching the lovely cultural shows at all 3 different places, we remember our
wives and children too. The evening dinner/cultural programes etc should also be thrown open
to delegates immediate family aswell. At least they will be with us for some hours.
Also, the new site http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ be made more effective like interactive
programes etc so that we can put question to ministers etc. As most queries etc can be solved
on line, perhaps, there would be no need to hold coming conventions/conference for 3 days
again.

Check some photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363462/ Pool with mini Island

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362739/ Beach near Cidade
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362739&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362218/ with Dona Paula in background
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362218&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363864/ Raj Bhavan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347361508/ new Assembly complex

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347361237&size=o Miramar circle with mini cruise liner
near For Aguada

additional photo attached for Rich Text readers only




Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc
(for updates etc click below)
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/


Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
JoeGoaUk
2007-01-08 08:30:30 UTC
Permalink
I am not very good at making reports, so here I send it raw
If find boring, just check out some Goa photos in the end



Global Goans Convention (GGC) Jan.3 to Jan 5, 2007

Daily Programe (General)
10 am start at Hotel Cidade de Goa
1pm Working Lunch
3 pm Coach leaving for Secretariat for Ministers? presentation (except last day)
4.45 to 5.30pm and Qs & As time (except on the last day)
6 pm coach leaves for Fort Aguade for Dinner at 8 pm (First Day) hosted by CM
Second day dinner at Cidade de Goa hosted by Mr. Faleiro at 8pm
Third day a reception by Governor at his official residence (Raj Bhavan) 4.30 to 7pm

At Interactive session (secretariat)
Eduardo Faleiro arranged not only ministers but their secretaries too.
Secretary will note down all the questions put to his minister, and if action needed, they
will write to the delegate (person who needed answer/action) by email etc about the action or
follow-up within a month.

RP2011
As it was said earlier that this came up more than twice on the very fist day of Convention
during interacting time with ministers on Jan. 3.
Chief Minster was to attend but saw his deputy Wilfred D?souza instead.
As Tourism and Enviroment Minister Dr. Willy washed his hands saying RP2011 file had never
came to his office (except one memo about an amendment). Nor it was discussed by the Goa
cabinet. And that It was wrong to say every one agreed to RP2011
Earlier, during the morning session, CM said RP2011 can be changed if required.

JoeSays: The 45 minutes Question and Answers (Q&A) time was too less and Mr. Faleiro, as a
moderator, always seen saying ;?hurry up, time is fast running out?
Sometimes, he was even a bit rude to the delegates who stood up for question etc (I guess it
was his duty as a Moderator keeping in mind the very short time available). He even stopped
some ministers half way while they were giving their presentation i.e. painting rosy pictures
of themselves.
It may be said here, RP2011 was not the only reason NRGs attended the GGC.
If all came for RP2011 only, then all would have walked out together with the New York Couple.
However, they could still stand up in protest (if not walk out) but this things don?t usually
seen amongst the Goans.

Read here for Day 1 details
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052482.html


Garbage issue:
This too has come up more than once.
It was even said they have overcome problems/protests like Konkan Railways, Metha Strips etc
and how come this (Garbage) took so long ?
Ministers say.. The plant got be started somewhere but every one says ?not here, take it else
where? and how this will work ? It was also said that a party came forward to shoulder all
burden at their cost and in return we pay for the power that it will generate out of it
(Garbage).

Land issue:
When this came up about the sale land to foreigners/outsiders etc
Ministers question back saying ?Who are the people who sell this land, are they not Goans? ?

Dabolim Airport:
Navy promised 9 acres of land but not delivered yet.
Once the land is available, 10 to 11 wide body planes can be accommodated from current just 6.
Says Tourism Ministes (TM)

Golf Course:
No Japanese tourist will visit Goa if there is no Golf facilities.
So, one coming up (TM)

Oceanarium:
Goa going to have one world class Oceanarium.
7 application received so far. And waiting for final ?Go ahead signal? from the
centre/authority. TM


Passport/Imigration/Consular services etc

Chief Passport Officer (CPO) Mr. R R Dash
5.5 laks in Kuwait (70k Goans)
2.5 laks in Bharaim
1.5 million in UAE
1.7 million in Saudi
2 laks in Quatar
Over 4.5 millions in Gulf

-More than 40 lac passports issued up to 2006, (24k in Goa .)
Expected more than 45 laks in 2007
-E-Passport or biometric from 2008
-25 million passport in circulation
-Those spend 3 years abroad, are not required ENCR stamp.
-Degree authentication is done in Goa (previously only in Delhi )
-2.5 laks p.a Indian visas granted in France
-30 missions abroad to be outsourced soon (including France , UK etc Visas issue etc)

Goa: Panchayats/Senior citizesn.artists/unemployed graduates
-189 Villages,
-183 Panchayats
-About 9000 Graduate unemployed
-Rs.1, 200 pm to those needy artist at age 58 and above
-1.10 laks Senior citizens in state

Keith Vaz to bring Lester City football team to Goa at his own expense

Margao new Hospital/GMC
New Hospital work near KTC to start before end of current financial year.
2000 per day OPD patients at GMC

JoeSays: But it seems the process for land acquisition for the same is not completed yet.
Today, it was reported in local dailies that farmers of Dovandem, Margao have strongly opposed
the acquisition process of the agricultural land, which is reportedly underway to build a new
district hospital. Memos also been submitted to Governor and Chief secretary. They have also
suggested that the present Hospicio and TB hospital be modified and upgraded with modern
facilities and services or the new hospital be built at Monte Hill
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-January/052682.html

8 NRGs felicitated
Awards were presented at the hands of Governor of Goa.
Who recommended the 8 people ?
It appear that all are recommend by their respective Indian Mission abroad
(Consulate/embassy). One of them had just completed 75 years on the day of the ceremony i.e.
Jan.5

NRG Investments in Goa :
CM says out of every Rs.5 invested in Goa , Re. 1 come from NRGs

Governor
?Statistics may say Goa ?s population is about 15 laks but as per my calculation it should be
about 20 lakhs.? Says 76 year old Goa Governor Mr. Jamir who is in Goa for more than 2years
now.
He also say there are two types of groups. Viz. One for Goa?s development and the other saving
Goa (heritage etc).
He further said, there is no problem with further Goa?s development but at the same time one
should see how much land is available in Goa .
?Don?t compare Goa to Singapore or Dubai ?

JoeSays: Well, if Goa ?s population is 20 lakhs, imagine how many would be non-Goans, 50% ?
another 10 years then what ? Goans 20% and non-Goans 80% ? Saiba bhogos!!!

Other highlights:

NRI cell suggested by Luizinho Faleiro to Eduardo Faleiro

Minister Subash Shirokar repeatedly referred to Goans as ?Goanese?.
One Mr. Alwyn from Honkong corrected him once during the speech and then again during the Q &
A time saying that Goanese used as derogatory.But he continue using ?Goanese? I guess the
minister is used to the term ?Goanese? which he may have read in the books etc.

One Mr. Johnson Pereira, asked the ministers about the various schemes (they boasted during
their presentation) whether they are available in a book form or on the net. To this Luizinho
Faleiro showed a booklet on ?Citizens Charter?. I am sure this is not what he was asking
for.
Mr. Johnson, also suggested NRI Minister, to copy in all replies/actions to the delegates?
questions to all members who are registered with his website http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
so that everybody know what action has been taken etc.
Mr. Faleiro said , yes, this could be done.

One young lady asked what action has been taken to protect from mosquitoes or vector borne
diseases like dengue fever etc.
Minster says, there is not a single case of Dengue in Goa .

At the inactive session..
First day there were about 60 delegates
Second day there were about 40
Most of them fall in ?silent delegate? category (as we have silent members on the net)
Up to 80% of them were from GOA either ex. NRIs (retired ) or other OAPs who never been NRIs.

Half of them were ladies

There was one OAP (ex NRI) who during the question hours complained about the harassment he
received including disconnection of his water supply and he even showed his pipe / tools to
all which he brought in his bag.

Another OAP lady, stood up and started reading from the front page of a newspaper. Headline
?UK Co acquires 150-acre land in South Goa to build township?

At Morning session at Cidade:
During morning session , it seem there was a huge turn out of delegates but half of those
present there were Press people, other invitees, Ministers people. On last day alone, There
were about 20 people belonging to governor including plain cloth security.

Actual number of delegates was only seen after the lunch.

On the first day, dinner at Fort Aguada, the coach left the delegate there just before 7pm and
did not inform what time it will be back to pick up.
As the dinner started late, delegate started to leave around 11pm only to find there is no
coach. Enquired at both reception counters but they were not aware of any thing about the
coach. So, some made they own way back home. Next day, it was understood that coach was there
whic came to pick up around 11.45pm. Some one should have at least made an announcement from
the stage (open air stage where cultural program/dinner was held at Taj holiday village).

On final day, at the official residence of Govenor Jamir (Raj Bhavan) there was a cultural
programe of various Goan dances.

One Mr. Rene Baretto (from UK ) proposed a vote of thanks.

One Suggestion to Mr. Eduardo Faleiro:
No NRI or NRG come down to Goa just for NRI Convention.
We come here for a short period to be with our family etc.
Most of us would do anything to save one day/night in Bombay which we usually spent there
waiting is transit or next connecting flight to Goa .
3 days conventions seems to much to stay away from our family.
We simply can?t afford to give up to 18 hrs a day just for Convention.
e.g. A guy who left Cuncolim at 8am (first day) was back home at 2am next day. That's after
the dinner at Fort Aguada . It was said the dinner will start at 8pm but started at 10pm due
to ministers including CM coming in late. Again, next day dinner at Cidade was late too. It
was seen up to 80% joining the dinner (both days) were non-delegates in the name of GGC.
When we were watching the lovely cultural shows at all 3 different places, we remember our
wives and children too. The evening dinner/cultural programes etc should also be thrown open
to delegates immediate family aswell. At least they will be with us for some hours.
Also, the new site http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ be made more effective like interactive
programes etc so that we can put question to ministers etc. As most queries etc can be solved
on line, perhaps, there would be no need to hold coming conventions/conference for 3 days
again.

Check some photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363462/ Pool with mini Island

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362739/ Beach near Cidade
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362739&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347362218/ with Dona Paula in background
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347362218&size=o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347363864/ Raj Bhavan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/347361508/ new Assembly complex

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347361237&size=o Miramar circle with mini cruise liner
near For Aguada

additional photo attached for Rich Text readers only




Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc
(for updates etc click below)
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/


Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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