Discussion:
Playing with FIRE
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Seb dc
2003-11-05 06:10:17 UTC
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Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO
2003-11-05 11:57:44 UTC
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Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni" fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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Seb dc
2003-11-06 08:39:18 UTC
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Can somebody put some more light (not fire) on this !!!

The question now is who is right n who is wrong??? n also let the list
grow.....

Cheers

Seb


----- Original Message -----
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE


Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

----- Original Message -----
From: ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO <ACCSEC at alrabie.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: FW: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE




Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if
I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then
changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni"
fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a
common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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Seb dc
2003-11-06 08:39:18 UTC
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Can somebody put some more light (not fire) on this !!!

The question now is who is right n who is wrong??? n also let the list
grow.....

Cheers

Seb


----- Original Message -----
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE


Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

----- Original Message -----
From: ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO <ACCSEC at alrabie.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: FW: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE




Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if
I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then
changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni"
fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a
common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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Seb dc
2003-11-06 08:39:18 UTC
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Can somebody put some more light (not fire) on this !!!

The question now is who is right n who is wrong??? n also let the list
grow.....

Cheers

Seb


----- Original Message -----
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE


Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

----- Original Message -----
From: ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO <ACCSEC at alrabie.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: FW: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE




Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if
I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then
changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni"
fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a
common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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Seb dc
2003-11-06 08:39:18 UTC
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Can somebody put some more light (not fire) on this !!!

The question now is who is right n who is wrong??? n also let the list
grow.....

Cheers

Seb


----- Original Message -----
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE


Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

----- Original Message -----
From: ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO <ACCSEC at alrabie.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: FW: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE




Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if
I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then
changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni"
fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a
common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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Seb dc
2003-11-06 08:39:18 UTC
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Can somebody put some more light (not fire) on this !!!

The question now is who is right n who is wrong??? n also let the list
grow.....

Cheers

Seb


----- Original Message -----
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE


Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

----- Original Message -----
From: ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO <ACCSEC at alrabie.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: FW: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE




Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if
I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then
changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni"
fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a
common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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Seb dc
2003-11-06 08:39:18 UTC
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Can somebody put some more light (not fire) on this !!!

The question now is who is right n who is wrong??? n also let the list
grow.....

Cheers

Seb


----- Original Message -----
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE


Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

----- Original Message -----
From: ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO <ACCSEC at alrabie.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: FW: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE




Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if
I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then
changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni"
fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a
common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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Seb dc
2003-11-06 08:39:18 UTC
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Can somebody put some more light (not fire) on this !!!

The question now is who is right n who is wrong??? n also let the list
grow.....

Cheers

Seb


----- Original Message -----
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE


Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

----- Original Message -----
From: ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO <ACCSEC at alrabie.com>
To: <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: FW: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE




Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if
I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then
changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni"
fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a
common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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halur rasho
2003-11-05 15:50:26 UTC
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Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

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Sachin Phadte
2003-11-07 11:34:15 UTC
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I am very surprised to read this:


Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org

Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.


I have relatives who have become widows and have not been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed sati?

Sachin Phadte

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halur rasho
2003-11-08 01:56:41 UTC
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Sachin,

My post was supposed to be read thus:
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
Post by Sachin Phadte
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???
- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it
is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be
sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.
I have relatives who have become widows and have not
been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law
enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone
have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed
sati?
Sachin Phadte
_________________________________________________________________
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Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this
film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp
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Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-11-08 14:44:55 UTC
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I agree with the opinion that the original mail was indeed
an attempted flame.
It is becoming a habit of sorts on Goanet to take jabs at each
other's religions, without any rhyme or reason. Wonder what
can be achieved by asserting that one religion is superior or
inferior to the other.
In reality Goans in Goa, on the ground, respect each other's religions,
a lot better than on the the cybernet. Perhaps, it is a lot easier to
say things while hiding, than in a face to face encounter and Goanet
seems to provide just the medium for that.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
Post by Seb dc
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Sachin,
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
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Seb dc
2003-11-05 06:10:17 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO
2003-11-05 11:57:44 UTC
Permalink
Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni" fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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halur rasho
2003-11-05 15:50:26 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

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Sachin Phadte
2003-11-07 11:34:15 UTC
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I am very surprised to read this:


Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org

Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.


I have relatives who have become widows and have not been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed sati?

Sachin Phadte

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halur rasho
2003-11-08 01:56:41 UTC
Permalink
Sachin,

My post was supposed to be read thus:
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
Post by Sachin Phadte
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???
- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it
is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be
sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.
I have relatives who have become widows and have not
been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law
enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone
have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed
sati?
Sachin Phadte
_________________________________________________________________
Post by Sachin Phadte
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this
film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp
Simply click here!
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Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-11-08 14:44:55 UTC
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I agree with the opinion that the original mail was indeed
an attempted flame.
It is becoming a habit of sorts on Goanet to take jabs at each
other's religions, without any rhyme or reason. Wonder what
can be achieved by asserting that one religion is superior or
inferior to the other.
In reality Goans in Goa, on the ground, respect each other's religions,
a lot better than on the the cybernet. Perhaps, it is a lot easier to
say things while hiding, than in a face to face encounter and Goanet
seems to provide just the medium for that.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
Post by Seb dc
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Sachin,
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
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Seb dc
2003-11-05 06:10:17 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO
2003-11-05 11:57:44 UTC
Permalink
Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni" fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
##########################################################################
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halur rasho
2003-11-05 15:50:26 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

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Sachin Phadte
2003-11-07 11:34:15 UTC
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I am very surprised to read this:


Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org

Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.


I have relatives who have become widows and have not been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed sati?

Sachin Phadte

_________________________________________________________________
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp Simply click here!
halur rasho
2003-11-08 01:56:41 UTC
Permalink
Sachin,

My post was supposed to be read thus:
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
Post by Sachin Phadte
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???
- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it
is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be
sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.
I have relatives who have become widows and have not
been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law
enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone
have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed
sati?
Sachin Phadte
_________________________________________________________________
Post by Sachin Phadte
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this
film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp
Simply click here!
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Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-11-08 14:44:55 UTC
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I agree with the opinion that the original mail was indeed
an attempted flame.
It is becoming a habit of sorts on Goanet to take jabs at each
other's religions, without any rhyme or reason. Wonder what
can be achieved by asserting that one religion is superior or
inferior to the other.
In reality Goans in Goa, on the ground, respect each other's religions,
a lot better than on the the cybernet. Perhaps, it is a lot easier to
say things while hiding, than in a face to face encounter and Goanet
seems to provide just the medium for that.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
Post by Seb dc
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Sachin,
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
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Seb dc
2003-11-05 06:10:17 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO
2003-11-05 11:57:44 UTC
Permalink
Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni" fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
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halur rasho
2003-11-05 15:50:26 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

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Sachin Phadte
2003-11-07 11:34:15 UTC
Permalink
I am very surprised to read this:


Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org

Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.


I have relatives who have become widows and have not been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed sati?

Sachin Phadte

_________________________________________________________________
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp Simply click here!
halur rasho
2003-11-08 01:56:41 UTC
Permalink
Sachin,

My post was supposed to be read thus:
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
Post by Sachin Phadte
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???
- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it
is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be
sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.
I have relatives who have become widows and have not
been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law
enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone
have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed
sati?
Sachin Phadte
_________________________________________________________________
Post by Sachin Phadte
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this
film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp
Simply click here!
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Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-11-08 14:44:55 UTC
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I agree with the opinion that the original mail was indeed
an attempted flame.
It is becoming a habit of sorts on Goanet to take jabs at each
other's religions, without any rhyme or reason. Wonder what
can be achieved by asserting that one religion is superior or
inferior to the other.
In reality Goans in Goa, on the ground, respect each other's religions,
a lot better than on the the cybernet. Perhaps, it is a lot easier to
say things while hiding, than in a face to face encounter and Goanet
seems to provide just the medium for that.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
Post by Seb dc
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Sachin,
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
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Seb dc
2003-11-05 06:10:17 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO
2003-11-05 11:57:44 UTC
Permalink
Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni" fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
##########################################################################
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# PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts #
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##########################################################################
halur rasho
2003-11-05 15:50:26 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

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Sachin Phadte
2003-11-07 11:34:15 UTC
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I am very surprised to read this:


Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org

Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.


I have relatives who have become widows and have not been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed sati?

Sachin Phadte

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halur rasho
2003-11-08 01:56:41 UTC
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Sachin,

My post was supposed to be read thus:
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
Post by Sachin Phadte
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???
- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it
is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be
sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.
I have relatives who have become widows and have not
been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law
enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone
have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed
sati?
Sachin Phadte
_________________________________________________________________
Post by Sachin Phadte
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this
film.
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Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-11-08 14:44:55 UTC
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I agree with the opinion that the original mail was indeed
an attempted flame.
It is becoming a habit of sorts on Goanet to take jabs at each
other's religions, without any rhyme or reason. Wonder what
can be achieved by asserting that one religion is superior or
inferior to the other.
In reality Goans in Goa, on the ground, respect each other's religions,
a lot better than on the the cybernet. Perhaps, it is a lot easier to
say things while hiding, than in a face to face encounter and Goanet
seems to provide just the medium for that.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
Post by Seb dc
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Sachin,
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
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Seb dc
2003-11-05 06:10:17 UTC
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Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO
2003-11-05 11:57:44 UTC
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Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni" fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
##########################################################################
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##########################################################################
halur rasho
2003-11-05 15:50:26 UTC
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Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

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Sachin Phadte
2003-11-07 11:34:15 UTC
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I am very surprised to read this:


Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org

Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.


I have relatives who have become widows and have not been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed sati?

Sachin Phadte

_________________________________________________________________
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp Simply click here!
halur rasho
2003-11-08 01:56:41 UTC
Permalink
Sachin,

My post was supposed to be read thus:
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
Post by Sachin Phadte
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???
- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it
is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be
sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.
I have relatives who have become widows and have not
been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law
enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone
have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed
sati?
Sachin Phadte
_________________________________________________________________
Post by Sachin Phadte
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this
film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp
Simply click here!
##########################################################################
Post by Sachin Phadte
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Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-11-08 14:44:55 UTC
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I agree with the opinion that the original mail was indeed
an attempted flame.
It is becoming a habit of sorts on Goanet to take jabs at each
other's religions, without any rhyme or reason. Wonder what
can be achieved by asserting that one religion is superior or
inferior to the other.
In reality Goans in Goa, on the ground, respect each other's religions,
a lot better than on the the cybernet. Perhaps, it is a lot easier to
say things while hiding, than in a face to face encounter and Goanet
seems to provide just the medium for that.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
Post by Seb dc
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Sachin,
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
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Seb dc
2003-11-05 06:10:17 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO
2003-11-05 11:57:44 UTC
Permalink
Hi Seby,

Performing 'Sati" has been abolished long time back by Raja Ram Mohan Roy if I am not mistaken. I don't think it is still existing.
But setting fire to daughter in laws nowadays for want of dowry and then changing the whole scene as an accident, I can fully
agree with.

Even in their marriages "Muhurt" - the couple take rounds by keeping "agni" fire in the middle while their Bhattji saying those mantras, which is a common scene in a Hindi movie. Is it "Agni Sakshi"?

Cypriano (Riyadh, KSA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Seb dc [mailto:sdc at upcdubai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:10 AM
To: goanet at goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE



Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
I was watching the closing ceremony of the just concluded Afro-Asian
Games-2003 at Hydreabad, last weekend.
And the conclusion I came to is 'India is the only country that plays with
FIRE'.
The closing function started with the Mashal Dance which had hundreds of
young & old dancing at the stadium to a rhythmic beats. Some had fire in
the
hands, some had it on their heads and some were blowing fire from mouths.
Besides these games... India does play with fire.
They burn wives for dowry.
They burn brothers in the name of Religion.
At the end of any cricket game -you'll see burning of Cards/plastic bottles
in the stadiums.
And then, (Sacred ?) fire for the final rituals of a dead body.
Any more could be added by you........ (let the list grow) !!
Besides the fire ...i.e. Pakistan, India indeed plays with fire!!
- Alfonso Bond Braganza
Mapusa Goa.
##########################################################################
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halur rasho
2003-11-05 15:50:26 UTC
Permalink
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is
a crime not to commit sati under the indian penal
code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years RI for
not doing so.

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Sachin Phadte
2003-11-07 11:34:15 UTC
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I am very surprised to read this:


Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org

Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???

- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.


I have relatives who have become widows and have not been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed sati?

Sachin Phadte

_________________________________________________________________
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp Simply click here!
halur rasho
2003-11-08 01:56:41 UTC
Permalink
Sachin,

My post was supposed to be read thus:
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
Post by Sachin Phadte
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:50:26 -0800 (PST)
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Playing with FIRE
To: goanet at goanet.org
Reply-To: goanet at goanet.org
Another one Alphonso, They create Sati; jumping into
the FIRE after her
husbands death! But is it a practice still???
- Seb
Yes this is a common practice in India. In fact it
is a crime not to commit
sati under the indian penal code, and a widow can be
sentenced to 10 years
RI for not doing so.
I have relatives who have become widows and have not
been sentenced to even
a second of rigorous imprisonment. Maybe the law
enforcement machinery
where my relatives live is incomptent. Does anyone
have any statistics on
how many widows have followed the law and committed
sati?
Sachin Phadte
_________________________________________________________________
Post by Sachin Phadte
Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this
film.
http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp
Simply click here!
##########################################################################
Post by Sachin Phadte
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Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-11-08 14:44:55 UTC
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I agree with the opinion that the original mail was indeed
an attempted flame.
It is becoming a habit of sorts on Goanet to take jabs at each
other's religions, without any rhyme or reason. Wonder what
can be achieved by asserting that one religion is superior or
inferior to the other.
In reality Goans in Goa, on the ground, respect each other's religions,
a lot better than on the the cybernet. Perhaps, it is a lot easier to
say things while hiding, than in a face to face encounter and Goanet
seems to provide just the medium for that.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
Post by Seb dc
From: halur rasho <halur_rasho at yahoo.com>
Sachin,
<sarcasm>.........</sarcasm>
The original post, imo was a troll and an attempted
flame. The viewer was reminded of sati while watching
the closing ceremonies of the asia-africa gmaes. Give
me break!
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