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The rock solid Christian moral code (2)
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Mario Goveia
2006-07-10 15:56:34 UTC
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If you call Buddhist and Jains as atheists, then
we definitely have a semantic problem.
Mario adds:
Gilbert,
Santosh is correct. Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion. So, naturally the
wiley, religion-bashing Santosh uses these liberally
as a red herring to deflect attention from most
individual atheists who are unorganized and have not
signed on to any organized and publicly stated moral
code.
Buddhists and Jains have nothing in common with the
five or six Goan unorganized individual atheists that
appear on Goanet, some of whom are just curious, while
the others are openly hostile towards religion and
those who are religious.
I have no problems with someone making an unequivocal
moral equivalence between Buddhists and Jains and the
major religions and the standards they impose on their
membership. I do have a problem with someone making
an unconditional moral equivalence between these and
unorganized individual atheists, many of whom may be
of upstanding moral character but because there are no
external checks and balances no one has any idea
what's going on unless they get arrested.
Santosh Helekar
2006-07-11 05:00:26 UTC
Permalink
Gilbert,

Do you know if Jain, Buddhist or any other group's
moral code compels members to pass prejudiced,
derogatory remarks against sundry extraneous
individuals who choose not to belong to its group?

If so, what is the punishment for violating this
stricture e.g. for commiting an infraction such as
refusing to abuse individuals in internet forums?

Cheers,

Santosh
.........Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion.................
Mario Goveia
2006-07-10 15:56:34 UTC
Permalink
If you call Buddhist and Jains as atheists, then
we definitely have a semantic problem.
Mario adds:
Gilbert,
Santosh is correct. Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion. So, naturally the
wiley, religion-bashing Santosh uses these liberally
as a red herring to deflect attention from most
individual atheists who are unorganized and have not
signed on to any organized and publicly stated moral
code.
Buddhists and Jains have nothing in common with the
five or six Goan unorganized individual atheists that
appear on Goanet, some of whom are just curious, while
the others are openly hostile towards religion and
those who are religious.
I have no problems with someone making an unequivocal
moral equivalence between Buddhists and Jains and the
major religions and the standards they impose on their
membership. I do have a problem with someone making
an unconditional moral equivalence between these and
unorganized individual atheists, many of whom may be
of upstanding moral character but because there are no
external checks and balances no one has any idea
what's going on unless they get arrested.
Santosh Helekar
2006-07-11 05:00:26 UTC
Permalink
Gilbert,

Do you know if Jain, Buddhist or any other group's
moral code compels members to pass prejudiced,
derogatory remarks against sundry extraneous
individuals who choose not to belong to its group?

If so, what is the punishment for violating this
stricture e.g. for commiting an infraction such as
refusing to abuse individuals in internet forums?

Cheers,

Santosh
.........Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion.................
Mario Goveia
2006-07-10 15:56:34 UTC
Permalink
If you call Buddhist and Jains as atheists, then
we definitely have a semantic problem.
Mario adds:
Gilbert,
Santosh is correct. Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion. So, naturally the
wiley, religion-bashing Santosh uses these liberally
as a red herring to deflect attention from most
individual atheists who are unorganized and have not
signed on to any organized and publicly stated moral
code.
Buddhists and Jains have nothing in common with the
five or six Goan unorganized individual atheists that
appear on Goanet, some of whom are just curious, while
the others are openly hostile towards religion and
those who are religious.
I have no problems with someone making an unequivocal
moral equivalence between Buddhists and Jains and the
major religions and the standards they impose on their
membership. I do have a problem with someone making
an unconditional moral equivalence between these and
unorganized individual atheists, many of whom may be
of upstanding moral character but because there are no
external checks and balances no one has any idea
what's going on unless they get arrested.
Santosh Helekar
2006-07-11 05:00:26 UTC
Permalink
Gilbert,

Do you know if Jain, Buddhist or any other group's
moral code compels members to pass prejudiced,
derogatory remarks against sundry extraneous
individuals who choose not to belong to its group?

If so, what is the punishment for violating this
stricture e.g. for commiting an infraction such as
refusing to abuse individuals in internet forums?

Cheers,

Santosh
.........Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion.................
Mario Goveia
2006-07-10 15:56:34 UTC
Permalink
If you call Buddhist and Jains as atheists, then
we definitely have a semantic problem.
Mario adds:
Gilbert,
Santosh is correct. Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion. So, naturally the
wiley, religion-bashing Santosh uses these liberally
as a red herring to deflect attention from most
individual atheists who are unorganized and have not
signed on to any organized and publicly stated moral
code.
Buddhists and Jains have nothing in common with the
five or six Goan unorganized individual atheists that
appear on Goanet, some of whom are just curious, while
the others are openly hostile towards religion and
those who are religious.
I have no problems with someone making an unequivocal
moral equivalence between Buddhists and Jains and the
major religions and the standards they impose on their
membership. I do have a problem with someone making
an unconditional moral equivalence between these and
unorganized individual atheists, many of whom may be
of upstanding moral character but because there are no
external checks and balances no one has any idea
what's going on unless they get arrested.
Santosh Helekar
2006-07-11 05:00:26 UTC
Permalink
Gilbert,

Do you know if Jain, Buddhist or any other group's
moral code compels members to pass prejudiced,
derogatory remarks against sundry extraneous
individuals who choose not to belong to its group?

If so, what is the punishment for violating this
stricture e.g. for commiting an infraction such as
refusing to abuse individuals in internet forums?

Cheers,

Santosh
.........Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion.................
Mario Goveia
2006-07-10 15:56:34 UTC
Permalink
If you call Buddhist and Jains as atheists, then
we definitely have a semantic problem.
Mario adds:
Gilbert,
Santosh is correct. Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion. So, naturally the
wiley, religion-bashing Santosh uses these liberally
as a red herring to deflect attention from most
individual atheists who are unorganized and have not
signed on to any organized and publicly stated moral
code.
Buddhists and Jains have nothing in common with the
five or six Goan unorganized individual atheists that
appear on Goanet, some of whom are just curious, while
the others are openly hostile towards religion and
those who are religious.
I have no problems with someone making an unequivocal
moral equivalence between Buddhists and Jains and the
major religions and the standards they impose on their
membership. I do have a problem with someone making
an unconditional moral equivalence between these and
unorganized individual atheists, many of whom may be
of upstanding moral character but because there are no
external checks and balances no one has any idea
what's going on unless they get arrested.
Santosh Helekar
2006-07-11 05:00:26 UTC
Permalink
Gilbert,

Do you know if Jain, Buddhist or any other group's
moral code compels members to pass prejudiced,
derogatory remarks against sundry extraneous
individuals who choose not to belong to its group?

If so, what is the punishment for violating this
stricture e.g. for commiting an infraction such as
refusing to abuse individuals in internet forums?

Cheers,

Santosh
.........Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion.................
Mario Goveia
2006-07-10 15:56:34 UTC
Permalink
If you call Buddhist and Jains as atheists, then
we definitely have a semantic problem.
Mario adds:
Gilbert,
Santosh is correct. Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion. So, naturally the
wiley, religion-bashing Santosh uses these liberally
as a red herring to deflect attention from most
individual atheists who are unorganized and have not
signed on to any organized and publicly stated moral
code.
Buddhists and Jains have nothing in common with the
five or six Goan unorganized individual atheists that
appear on Goanet, some of whom are just curious, while
the others are openly hostile towards religion and
those who are religious.
I have no problems with someone making an unequivocal
moral equivalence between Buddhists and Jains and the
major religions and the standards they impose on their
membership. I do have a problem with someone making
an unconditional moral equivalence between these and
unorganized individual atheists, many of whom may be
of upstanding moral character but because there are no
external checks and balances no one has any idea
what's going on unless they get arrested.
Santosh Helekar
2006-07-11 05:00:26 UTC
Permalink
Gilbert,

Do you know if Jain, Buddhist or any other group's
moral code compels members to pass prejudiced,
derogatory remarks against sundry extraneous
individuals who choose not to belong to its group?

If so, what is the punishment for violating this
stricture e.g. for commiting an infraction such as
refusing to abuse individuals in internet forums?

Cheers,

Santosh
.........Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion.................
Mario Goveia
2006-07-10 15:56:34 UTC
Permalink
If you call Buddhist and Jains as atheists, then
we definitely have a semantic problem.
Mario adds:
Gilbert,
Santosh is correct. Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion. So, naturally the
wiley, religion-bashing Santosh uses these liberally
as a red herring to deflect attention from most
individual atheists who are unorganized and have not
signed on to any organized and publicly stated moral
code.
Buddhists and Jains have nothing in common with the
five or six Goan unorganized individual atheists that
appear on Goanet, some of whom are just curious, while
the others are openly hostile towards religion and
those who are religious.
I have no problems with someone making an unequivocal
moral equivalence between Buddhists and Jains and the
major religions and the standards they impose on their
membership. I do have a problem with someone making
an unconditional moral equivalence between these and
unorganized individual atheists, many of whom may be
of upstanding moral character but because there are no
external checks and balances no one has any idea
what's going on unless they get arrested.
Santosh Helekar
2006-07-11 05:00:26 UTC
Permalink
Gilbert,

Do you know if Jain, Buddhist or any other group's
moral code compels members to pass prejudiced,
derogatory remarks against sundry extraneous
individuals who choose not to belong to its group?

If so, what is the punishment for violating this
stricture e.g. for commiting an infraction such as
refusing to abuse individuals in internet forums?

Cheers,

Santosh
.........Buddhists and Jains are atheist
organizations, but they have all the essential moral
features of a theistic religion.................
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