Discussion:
Matanhy and BJP
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Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-13 20:03:19 UTC
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?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo Oliveira
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-14 02:47:23 UTC
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On 13 February 2012 15:03, Geraldo Oliveira <nigerald at yahoo.com> wrote

[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )

http://valpoi.blogspot.com/2011/04/prophets-of-doom-by-gerald-oliveira.html

COMMENT:

Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.

Unfortunately, Manohar Parrikar has his apron strings tied to the RSS and
BJP. I trust those two outfits as much as I trust the Kangress.

I also believe that Matanhy Saldanha has every right to choose which party
he wishes to join. Personally - for the past 10 years - I strongly believed
that he was a BJP. I am glad that he has finally been honest enough to come
out of the closet.


a: I am not sure HOW Gerald Oliveira comes to the conclusion in #1.
"Better" based on what? Past record or present mouthings?

b: re #2, I do not know the meanings of the partisan "talking point" i.e.
Secularist .....and its cousin pseudo-secularist....but I'd say this to
Gerald ..... The VideoCD stuff was NO simple matter. If you have seen the
CD like I have, you (possibly) would have been aghast at the vicious
(albeit clever) attack on Christianity and Christians contained therein.

The 'Good Friday' issue IMHO is a non-issue.

Religion has NO place in public service. If the Church wishes to have a
service for Govt workers during working days, it should do so after working
hours. The Govt is NOT obligated to declare holidays when Govt work is
yet to be done. Those who want to attend religious functions on working
days, should take Vacation or Unpaid leave on those days. What is the sense
of giving Holidays to a set of people who are perpetually on Holiday
anyway? I would support Parrikar if he cancelled ALL religious holidays for
Govt servants.

The Good Friday issue (a personal worship issue) is quite different from
the disgustingly devious and communally divisive issue created by the VCD.
Let us not even begin to confuse the two.

Apologies would be a good start ....but not really enough. There must be a
firm commitment NEVER to repeat that nonsense again. AND, none of the stuff
seen in the attached URLs 1 &2 (See foot of this post)

re #3: This article makes interesting reading. What Geraldo Oliveira is
suggesting, I believe, that One set of Delhi controls be replaced by
another.

Wonder what Gerald Oliveira has to say about that.

jc

refs:
1: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari1
2: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari2

Matanhy may wish to review this post on this Valentine's Day
3: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7880377.stm
Rajan P. Parrikar
2012-02-14 09:57:05 UTC
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To Goanet -
Post by colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.
Right now he (not the party) is the most appealing candidate, in my?
view. ?Especially since there is no (credible) regional party alternative.

I hope that if Manohar's slate does pull off a victory (and I am not at all?
sure?that they will), the mistakes he made in the?past will not be repeated. ?
He?faces an uphill task. ?For any effective governance he will have to?
get a clear majority, without any looming threat of blackmail from?
one or two?fellows, as happens in any coalition these days. ?That?
is a tall order.

Note that right now all one can hope for Goa is to slow down its
'slumification.' ?The Goa we knew and loved is gone. ?Thank you,
India, for nothing.


r
Bernado Colaco
2012-02-14 03:54:41 UTC
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The comments below are like of a man lacking tomatoes.
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[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-14 14:50:00 UTC
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Dear Geraldo,

Matanhy is free to join any party and the electorate are free to vote
for whichever candidate they think will represent them best. However,
it must be borne in mind that certain parties are driven by
ideologies. One must check before supporting and voting for such
parties whether their ideology suits oneself. For example, the BJP
subscribes to the hindutva ideology which states and believes that the
Muslims and Christians should be deprived of all rights of a citizen.
They also believe that the hindu culture should be imposed on them.
The BJP governments in states like MP, Gujarat, Karnataka,
Chhatisgarh, Jharkhand have been systematically imposing their
hindutva programmes on the people. Laws have been enacted against
minorities like anti-conversion act, ban on cow slaughter and even
stringent punishments for eating meat. Text books have been changed to
brain wash children with their ideology. In Goa they have been
agitating against the grant of aid to English medium schools while
extending it to Marathi , Kannada and other language schools. If this
is what you wish for, so be it.

I am aware that the Congress has let people down with their corrupt
practices and wrong policies. However, the solution is not to jump
from the frying pan into the fire. I would suggest that you look at
other alternatives. Choose any candidate even an independent who is
clean, honest and with integrity and principles. If even 10 such good
candidates are elected it will make a difference. Many drops make an
ocean. If you are finally left with a choice of choosing between the
devil and the deep blue sea, choose the lesser evil. With corruption
you will survive at least. But with corruption and communalism, you
are done for. Refer to the latest issue of Frontline which link I am
giving below for a better understanding:

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/

Regards,


Marshall





Geraldo Oliveira



With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial
election, which is 'make or break', and based on the current

scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar
government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any
Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years.
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-15 11:27:40 UTC
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Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are perfectly understandable.?
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of power, atleast for this term. ?It is foolish argument that Corruption is a lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. ?More Catholic representation in the BJP ?will change the political compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.?
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. ?The Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. ? The corrupt Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. ?With ?no love for the BJP, ?during the last BJP government ?(which didnt last the full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community. ?
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are unquestionable. ?He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's causes over the years. ?I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have not recognised ?Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not deserve to be despised nor attacked.?
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
??
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Geraldo Oliveira?<nigerald at yahoo.com>?wrote:
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo OliveiraKerant,?PO Caranzalem , Goa
floriano
2012-02-15 16:35:50 UTC
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GO: More Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political
compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our
survival.

FL: Ha Ha. Tell this to George Menezes of Mumbai who wanted to prove to the
world that BJP's thinking could be changed. Geraldo must call him up
sometimes and have a heart to heart chat with him on this topic. I'm sure
George Menezes will dispell all his halucinations about the BJP wanting
Unity with the Indian Christian world. Ha Ha, once again.

GO: He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's
causes over the years
FL: There is a typo error here. It should read 'selfishly'

GO: I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in
Goa will listen to him
FL: Like they listened to him over the CD and the Good Friday affair. Ha Ha.
On this account I have said umpteen times that people of Cortalim had sent a
ferocious Alsation Dog to the Goa legislative Assembly with hopes that this
dog could rock the place with his resounding barks. But the ferocious dog
turned out to be the BJP 'ear' licking poodle. Ha Ha again.

GO: If Goans have not recognised Matanhy Saldanha.....
FL: The Nagpur based RSS has??? Is this what GO means to say?? If that is
so, then I agree with him one hundred per cent.

GO: It is true that, Matanhy joining the BJP has sent shivers in the
Congress
but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move
that can bring about unity between both Christian and Hindu communities,

FL: Geraldo must not rush to pat his own back for this opinion. Shivers in
the Congress? It is more like 'Jiving' as it looks to me. The Congress camp
cannot stop jiving to see Matanhy having cut his own feet with this move,
especially Congress' Mauvin Godinho..

GO: On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged mistakes of the past
and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining its ranks,
will have to rethink its attitude towards the minority community, which is
positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS
ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as
alleged by some.
FL: Matanhy will embrace nothing. He will be just used by the RSS ( read
Manohar Parrikar) and when the time comes, he will be dumped like a soiled
piece of rag. As I have said earlier, Matanhy has cut his own feet in a
hurry by basically being SELFISH and wanting to get to places faster than
warranted just like the old fox from Saligao..

GO:Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency
which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area
during his tenure
FL: Geraldo must give some credit to Rupert Coutinho's intelligence. No born
leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must follow
the LEADER. We shall see if Matanhy succeeds in painting Cortalim saffron or
gets thrown into the Zuari River. Hope he knows how to swim. :-)

GO: One can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the
next 5 years
FL: It makes me pity the high intelligence of Geraldo come to naught on this
one. He must see through Congress as well as the BJP and focus on something
different at a distant. If not Congress, then BJP and vice versa has turned
intelligent Goans into BUFFOONS for far too long. And now the Bengali
'tricumtel' is vying for a place in between the Congress and the BJP

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

BTW: That Matanhy never had the qualities of a LEADER was known to yours
faithfully the day I met him for the very first time during his fasting
across from the Panjim's Ferry Wharf at the time of the Meta Strip
agitation. This was confirmed a few days later when he was canned along with
others in the Panjim's Police Headquarter's jail. And finally it was
reconfirmed when he gave a clean chit to Meta Strips when he became the
Minister for Tourism in the Manohar Parrikar Cabinet. Does Geraldo want to
hear more??? If not, he should stop pissing in his pants over Matanhy's so
called achievements. And if he should think that I am the usual Goan Crab
who wants to pull Matanhy down, he better have a second thought because I
know very well, what ticks Matanhy Saldanha. Geraldo must watch Matanhy's
eyes when he is talked to. Leaders have piercing eyes when confronted. They
do not look away. Cheers.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Geraldo Oliveira" <nigerald at yahoo.com>
To: <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
Cc: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-16 03:57:02 UTC
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1: Geraldo Oliviera: Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his
supporters in Cortalim constituency

2: Floriano Lobo: No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary,
the followers must follow the LEADER.

====

JC Response:


[A] I sincerely hope Matanhy or his lackey will clarify the following:

a: the number of individuals from Cortalim constituency who advised Matanhy
to join the BJP

b: how he knew (for sure) that they were his supporters before he joined
the BJP ..... and not BJP supporters. Personally speaking, I am very happy
that Matanhy finally came out of the closet and joined the BJP.


[B] I also wish to disagree with a few notions put out here:
c: that, in a democracy, the janta must follow the leader; that they follow
him/her after voting for him/her ... is another matter.
d: that anyone is 'born a leader'; though I know for sure that every
person, is born digambara. Ummmm! (;-)

jc
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-16 03:57:02 UTC
Permalink
1: Geraldo Oliviera: Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his
supporters in Cortalim constituency

2: Floriano Lobo: No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary,
the followers must follow the LEADER.

====

JC Response:


[A] I sincerely hope Matanhy or his lackey will clarify the following:

a: the number of individuals from Cortalim constituency who advised Matanhy
to join the BJP

b: how he knew (for sure) that they were his supporters before he joined
the BJP ..... and not BJP supporters. Personally speaking, I am very happy
that Matanhy finally came out of the closet and joined the BJP.


[B] I also wish to disagree with a few notions put out here:
c: that, in a democracy, the janta must follow the leader; that they follow
him/her after voting for him/her ... is another matter.
d: that anyone is 'born a leader'; though I know for sure that every
person, is born digambara. Ummmm! (;-)

jc
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-16 03:57:02 UTC
Permalink
1: Geraldo Oliviera: Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his
supporters in Cortalim constituency

2: Floriano Lobo: No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary,
the followers must follow the LEADER.

====

JC Response:


[A] I sincerely hope Matanhy or his lackey will clarify the following:

a: the number of individuals from Cortalim constituency who advised Matanhy
to join the BJP

b: how he knew (for sure) that they were his supporters before he joined
the BJP ..... and not BJP supporters. Personally speaking, I am very happy
that Matanhy finally came out of the closet and joined the BJP.


[B] I also wish to disagree with a few notions put out here:
c: that, in a democracy, the janta must follow the leader; that they follow
him/her after voting for him/her ... is another matter.
d: that anyone is 'born a leader'; though I know for sure that every
person, is born digambara. Ummmm! (;-)

jc
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-16 03:57:02 UTC
Permalink
1: Geraldo Oliviera: Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his
supporters in Cortalim constituency

2: Floriano Lobo: No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary,
the followers must follow the LEADER.

====

JC Response:


[A] I sincerely hope Matanhy or his lackey will clarify the following:

a: the number of individuals from Cortalim constituency who advised Matanhy
to join the BJP

b: how he knew (for sure) that they were his supporters before he joined
the BJP ..... and not BJP supporters. Personally speaking, I am very happy
that Matanhy finally came out of the closet and joined the BJP.


[B] I also wish to disagree with a few notions put out here:
c: that, in a democracy, the janta must follow the leader; that they follow
him/her after voting for him/her ... is another matter.
d: that anyone is 'born a leader'; though I know for sure that every
person, is born digambara. Ummmm! (;-)

jc
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-16 03:57:02 UTC
Permalink
1: Geraldo Oliviera: Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his
supporters in Cortalim constituency

2: Floriano Lobo: No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary,
the followers must follow the LEADER.

====

JC Response:


[A] I sincerely hope Matanhy or his lackey will clarify the following:

a: the number of individuals from Cortalim constituency who advised Matanhy
to join the BJP

b: how he knew (for sure) that they were his supporters before he joined
the BJP ..... and not BJP supporters. Personally speaking, I am very happy
that Matanhy finally came out of the closet and joined the BJP.


[B] I also wish to disagree with a few notions put out here:
c: that, in a democracy, the janta must follow the leader; that they follow
him/her after voting for him/her ... is another matter.
d: that anyone is 'born a leader'; though I know for sure that every
person, is born digambara. Ummmm! (;-)

jc
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 01:38:03 UTC
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Dear Geraldo

I cannot but agree with you that the Congress in Goa has proved itself
to be corrupt and incompetant. But then the BJP's track record in
states where it governs is no better. Please refer to reports on
Karnataka, MP, Jharkhand, Chhatisgarh, Uttarakhand, Punjab. Corruption
combined with communalism can be deadly and potent.

The BJP cadre have been brought up on a daily diet of anti-minoritism.
This cannot be wished away overnight. It reflected itself in many ways
during the BJP's first term in office. That was only a sneak preview.
Let them have a free hand and you will soon experience what they can
do as those in BJP ruled states are experiencing now. To imagine that
the BJP will bring about communal harmony is to indulge in
day-dreaming. A Leopard cannot change its spots. If you need a reality
check, please refer once again to the latest issue of Frontline, which
link I posted last time.

I am afraid I cannot agree with you with on the choice Matanhy has
made.He would have been better off as an Independent where he could
control his decisions and actions. If elected as a BJP legislator, he
would be bound by the manifesto, ideology and whips issued by the
party or lose his seat. In fact during his first term he was a silent
spectator to the rash of communal actions taken by the Parrikar
government. And do not forget, Babush cut his teeth under Parrikar. As
Town & Country Planning Minister he set the ground for uncontrolled
concretisation of Goa. The creation of SEZ too began under Parrikar.
So was Micky Pacheco a minister under Parrikar.

The alternative is not to jump from the frying pan into the fire in a
knee-jerk reaction. Look for good candidates and support them
whole-heartedly. They do not need your money. They need your votes.
Even if about 10 good candidates, whether independents or from smaller
parties, are elected, it will make a difference. Small drops make an
ocean. It will have arrested the decline. And the future will offer
more hope.

At the end of the day the people of Goa have to take responsibility
for the kind of government they elect. It is no use crying later.
Democracy is not just about casting one's vote but to think, analyse
and decide which candidate and party will provide good, clean,
efficient and fair governance.

Regards,

Marshall
Post by Geraldo Oliveira
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are
perfectly understandable.
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of
power, atleast for this term. It is foolish argument that Corruption is a
lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and
soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by
bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. More
Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political compulsions
and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. The
Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans
will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. The corrupt
Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. With no
love for the BJP, during the last BJP government (which didnt last the
full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this
secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian
ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community.
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are
unquestionable. He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly
fought for Goa's causes over the years. I assure you Matanhy will have a
voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have
not recognised Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not
deserve to be despised nor attacked.
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
floriano
2012-02-15 16:35:50 UTC
Permalink
GO: More Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political
compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our
survival.

FL: Ha Ha. Tell this to George Menezes of Mumbai who wanted to prove to the
world that BJP's thinking could be changed. Geraldo must call him up
sometimes and have a heart to heart chat with him on this topic. I'm sure
George Menezes will dispell all his halucinations about the BJP wanting
Unity with the Indian Christian world. Ha Ha, once again.

GO: He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's
causes over the years
FL: There is a typo error here. It should read 'selfishly'

GO: I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in
Goa will listen to him
FL: Like they listened to him over the CD and the Good Friday affair. Ha Ha.
On this account I have said umpteen times that people of Cortalim had sent a
ferocious Alsation Dog to the Goa legislative Assembly with hopes that this
dog could rock the place with his resounding barks. But the ferocious dog
turned out to be the BJP 'ear' licking poodle. Ha Ha again.

GO: If Goans have not recognised Matanhy Saldanha.....
FL: The Nagpur based RSS has??? Is this what GO means to say?? If that is
so, then I agree with him one hundred per cent.

GO: It is true that, Matanhy joining the BJP has sent shivers in the
Congress
but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move
that can bring about unity between both Christian and Hindu communities,

FL: Geraldo must not rush to pat his own back for this opinion. Shivers in
the Congress? It is more like 'Jiving' as it looks to me. The Congress camp
cannot stop jiving to see Matanhy having cut his own feet with this move,
especially Congress' Mauvin Godinho..

GO: On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged mistakes of the past
and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining its ranks,
will have to rethink its attitude towards the minority community, which is
positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS
ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as
alleged by some.
FL: Matanhy will embrace nothing. He will be just used by the RSS ( read
Manohar Parrikar) and when the time comes, he will be dumped like a soiled
piece of rag. As I have said earlier, Matanhy has cut his own feet in a
hurry by basically being SELFISH and wanting to get to places faster than
warranted just like the old fox from Saligao..

GO:Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency
which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area
during his tenure
FL: Geraldo must give some credit to Rupert Coutinho's intelligence. No born
leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must follow
the LEADER. We shall see if Matanhy succeeds in painting Cortalim saffron or
gets thrown into the Zuari River. Hope he knows how to swim. :-)

GO: One can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the
next 5 years
FL: It makes me pity the high intelligence of Geraldo come to naught on this
one. He must see through Congress as well as the BJP and focus on something
different at a distant. If not Congress, then BJP and vice versa has turned
intelligent Goans into BUFFOONS for far too long. And now the Bengali
'tricumtel' is vying for a place in between the Congress and the BJP

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

BTW: That Matanhy never had the qualities of a LEADER was known to yours
faithfully the day I met him for the very first time during his fasting
across from the Panjim's Ferry Wharf at the time of the Meta Strip
agitation. This was confirmed a few days later when he was canned along with
others in the Panjim's Police Headquarter's jail. And finally it was
reconfirmed when he gave a clean chit to Meta Strips when he became the
Minister for Tourism in the Manohar Parrikar Cabinet. Does Geraldo want to
hear more??? If not, he should stop pissing in his pants over Matanhy's so
called achievements. And if he should think that I am the usual Goan Crab
who wants to pull Matanhy down, he better have a second thought because I
know very well, what ticks Matanhy Saldanha. Geraldo must watch Matanhy's
eyes when he is talked to. Leaders have piercing eyes when confronted. They
do not look away. Cheers.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Geraldo Oliveira" <nigerald at yahoo.com>
To: <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
Cc: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 01:38:03 UTC
Permalink
Dear Geraldo

I cannot but agree with you that the Congress in Goa has proved itself
to be corrupt and incompetant. But then the BJP's track record in
states where it governs is no better. Please refer to reports on
Karnataka, MP, Jharkhand, Chhatisgarh, Uttarakhand, Punjab. Corruption
combined with communalism can be deadly and potent.

The BJP cadre have been brought up on a daily diet of anti-minoritism.
This cannot be wished away overnight. It reflected itself in many ways
during the BJP's first term in office. That was only a sneak preview.
Let them have a free hand and you will soon experience what they can
do as those in BJP ruled states are experiencing now. To imagine that
the BJP will bring about communal harmony is to indulge in
day-dreaming. A Leopard cannot change its spots. If you need a reality
check, please refer once again to the latest issue of Frontline, which
link I posted last time.

I am afraid I cannot agree with you with on the choice Matanhy has
made.He would have been better off as an Independent where he could
control his decisions and actions. If elected as a BJP legislator, he
would be bound by the manifesto, ideology and whips issued by the
party or lose his seat. In fact during his first term he was a silent
spectator to the rash of communal actions taken by the Parrikar
government. And do not forget, Babush cut his teeth under Parrikar. As
Town & Country Planning Minister he set the ground for uncontrolled
concretisation of Goa. The creation of SEZ too began under Parrikar.
So was Micky Pacheco a minister under Parrikar.

The alternative is not to jump from the frying pan into the fire in a
knee-jerk reaction. Look for good candidates and support them
whole-heartedly. They do not need your money. They need your votes.
Even if about 10 good candidates, whether independents or from smaller
parties, are elected, it will make a difference. Small drops make an
ocean. It will have arrested the decline. And the future will offer
more hope.

At the end of the day the people of Goa have to take responsibility
for the kind of government they elect. It is no use crying later.
Democracy is not just about casting one's vote but to think, analyse
and decide which candidate and party will provide good, clean,
efficient and fair governance.

Regards,

Marshall
Post by Geraldo Oliveira
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are
perfectly understandable.
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of
power, atleast for this term. It is foolish argument that Corruption is a
lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and
soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by
bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. More
Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political compulsions
and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. The
Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans
will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. The corrupt
Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. With no
love for the BJP, during the last BJP government (which didnt last the
full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this
secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian
ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community.
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are
unquestionable. He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly
fought for Goa's causes over the years. I assure you Matanhy will have a
voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have
not recognised Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not
deserve to be despised nor attacked.
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
floriano
2012-02-15 16:35:50 UTC
Permalink
GO: More Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political
compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our
survival.

FL: Ha Ha. Tell this to George Menezes of Mumbai who wanted to prove to the
world that BJP's thinking could be changed. Geraldo must call him up
sometimes and have a heart to heart chat with him on this topic. I'm sure
George Menezes will dispell all his halucinations about the BJP wanting
Unity with the Indian Christian world. Ha Ha, once again.

GO: He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's
causes over the years
FL: There is a typo error here. It should read 'selfishly'

GO: I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in
Goa will listen to him
FL: Like they listened to him over the CD and the Good Friday affair. Ha Ha.
On this account I have said umpteen times that people of Cortalim had sent a
ferocious Alsation Dog to the Goa legislative Assembly with hopes that this
dog could rock the place with his resounding barks. But the ferocious dog
turned out to be the BJP 'ear' licking poodle. Ha Ha again.

GO: If Goans have not recognised Matanhy Saldanha.....
FL: The Nagpur based RSS has??? Is this what GO means to say?? If that is
so, then I agree with him one hundred per cent.

GO: It is true that, Matanhy joining the BJP has sent shivers in the
Congress
but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move
that can bring about unity between both Christian and Hindu communities,

FL: Geraldo must not rush to pat his own back for this opinion. Shivers in
the Congress? It is more like 'Jiving' as it looks to me. The Congress camp
cannot stop jiving to see Matanhy having cut his own feet with this move,
especially Congress' Mauvin Godinho..

GO: On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged mistakes of the past
and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining its ranks,
will have to rethink its attitude towards the minority community, which is
positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS
ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as
alleged by some.
FL: Matanhy will embrace nothing. He will be just used by the RSS ( read
Manohar Parrikar) and when the time comes, he will be dumped like a soiled
piece of rag. As I have said earlier, Matanhy has cut his own feet in a
hurry by basically being SELFISH and wanting to get to places faster than
warranted just like the old fox from Saligao..

GO:Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency
which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area
during his tenure
FL: Geraldo must give some credit to Rupert Coutinho's intelligence. No born
leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must follow
the LEADER. We shall see if Matanhy succeeds in painting Cortalim saffron or
gets thrown into the Zuari River. Hope he knows how to swim. :-)

GO: One can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the
next 5 years
FL: It makes me pity the high intelligence of Geraldo come to naught on this
one. He must see through Congress as well as the BJP and focus on something
different at a distant. If not Congress, then BJP and vice versa has turned
intelligent Goans into BUFFOONS for far too long. And now the Bengali
'tricumtel' is vying for a place in between the Congress and the BJP

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

BTW: That Matanhy never had the qualities of a LEADER was known to yours
faithfully the day I met him for the very first time during his fasting
across from the Panjim's Ferry Wharf at the time of the Meta Strip
agitation. This was confirmed a few days later when he was canned along with
others in the Panjim's Police Headquarter's jail. And finally it was
reconfirmed when he gave a clean chit to Meta Strips when he became the
Minister for Tourism in the Manohar Parrikar Cabinet. Does Geraldo want to
hear more??? If not, he should stop pissing in his pants over Matanhy's so
called achievements. And if he should think that I am the usual Goan Crab
who wants to pull Matanhy down, he better have a second thought because I
know very well, what ticks Matanhy Saldanha. Geraldo must watch Matanhy's
eyes when he is talked to. Leaders have piercing eyes when confronted. They
do not look away. Cheers.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Geraldo Oliveira" <nigerald at yahoo.com>
To: <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
Cc: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 01:38:03 UTC
Permalink
Dear Geraldo

I cannot but agree with you that the Congress in Goa has proved itself
to be corrupt and incompetant. But then the BJP's track record in
states where it governs is no better. Please refer to reports on
Karnataka, MP, Jharkhand, Chhatisgarh, Uttarakhand, Punjab. Corruption
combined with communalism can be deadly and potent.

The BJP cadre have been brought up on a daily diet of anti-minoritism.
This cannot be wished away overnight. It reflected itself in many ways
during the BJP's first term in office. That was only a sneak preview.
Let them have a free hand and you will soon experience what they can
do as those in BJP ruled states are experiencing now. To imagine that
the BJP will bring about communal harmony is to indulge in
day-dreaming. A Leopard cannot change its spots. If you need a reality
check, please refer once again to the latest issue of Frontline, which
link I posted last time.

I am afraid I cannot agree with you with on the choice Matanhy has
made.He would have been better off as an Independent where he could
control his decisions and actions. If elected as a BJP legislator, he
would be bound by the manifesto, ideology and whips issued by the
party or lose his seat. In fact during his first term he was a silent
spectator to the rash of communal actions taken by the Parrikar
government. And do not forget, Babush cut his teeth under Parrikar. As
Town & Country Planning Minister he set the ground for uncontrolled
concretisation of Goa. The creation of SEZ too began under Parrikar.
So was Micky Pacheco a minister under Parrikar.

The alternative is not to jump from the frying pan into the fire in a
knee-jerk reaction. Look for good candidates and support them
whole-heartedly. They do not need your money. They need your votes.
Even if about 10 good candidates, whether independents or from smaller
parties, are elected, it will make a difference. Small drops make an
ocean. It will have arrested the decline. And the future will offer
more hope.

At the end of the day the people of Goa have to take responsibility
for the kind of government they elect. It is no use crying later.
Democracy is not just about casting one's vote but to think, analyse
and decide which candidate and party will provide good, clean,
efficient and fair governance.

Regards,

Marshall
Post by Geraldo Oliveira
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are
perfectly understandable.
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of
power, atleast for this term. It is foolish argument that Corruption is a
lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and
soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by
bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. More
Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political compulsions
and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. The
Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans
will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. The corrupt
Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. With no
love for the BJP, during the last BJP government (which didnt last the
full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this
secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian
ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community.
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are
unquestionable. He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly
fought for Goa's causes over the years. I assure you Matanhy will have a
voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have
not recognised Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not
deserve to be despised nor attacked.
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
floriano
2012-02-15 16:35:50 UTC
Permalink
GO: More Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political
compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our
survival.

FL: Ha Ha. Tell this to George Menezes of Mumbai who wanted to prove to the
world that BJP's thinking could be changed. Geraldo must call him up
sometimes and have a heart to heart chat with him on this topic. I'm sure
George Menezes will dispell all his halucinations about the BJP wanting
Unity with the Indian Christian world. Ha Ha, once again.

GO: He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's
causes over the years
FL: There is a typo error here. It should read 'selfishly'

GO: I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in
Goa will listen to him
FL: Like they listened to him over the CD and the Good Friday affair. Ha Ha.
On this account I have said umpteen times that people of Cortalim had sent a
ferocious Alsation Dog to the Goa legislative Assembly with hopes that this
dog could rock the place with his resounding barks. But the ferocious dog
turned out to be the BJP 'ear' licking poodle. Ha Ha again.

GO: If Goans have not recognised Matanhy Saldanha.....
FL: The Nagpur based RSS has??? Is this what GO means to say?? If that is
so, then I agree with him one hundred per cent.

GO: It is true that, Matanhy joining the BJP has sent shivers in the
Congress
but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move
that can bring about unity between both Christian and Hindu communities,

FL: Geraldo must not rush to pat his own back for this opinion. Shivers in
the Congress? It is more like 'Jiving' as it looks to me. The Congress camp
cannot stop jiving to see Matanhy having cut his own feet with this move,
especially Congress' Mauvin Godinho..

GO: On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged mistakes of the past
and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining its ranks,
will have to rethink its attitude towards the minority community, which is
positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS
ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as
alleged by some.
FL: Matanhy will embrace nothing. He will be just used by the RSS ( read
Manohar Parrikar) and when the time comes, he will be dumped like a soiled
piece of rag. As I have said earlier, Matanhy has cut his own feet in a
hurry by basically being SELFISH and wanting to get to places faster than
warranted just like the old fox from Saligao..

GO:Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency
which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area
during his tenure
FL: Geraldo must give some credit to Rupert Coutinho's intelligence. No born
leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must follow
the LEADER. We shall see if Matanhy succeeds in painting Cortalim saffron or
gets thrown into the Zuari River. Hope he knows how to swim. :-)

GO: One can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the
next 5 years
FL: It makes me pity the high intelligence of Geraldo come to naught on this
one. He must see through Congress as well as the BJP and focus on something
different at a distant. If not Congress, then BJP and vice versa has turned
intelligent Goans into BUFFOONS for far too long. And now the Bengali
'tricumtel' is vying for a place in between the Congress and the BJP

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

BTW: That Matanhy never had the qualities of a LEADER was known to yours
faithfully the day I met him for the very first time during his fasting
across from the Panjim's Ferry Wharf at the time of the Meta Strip
agitation. This was confirmed a few days later when he was canned along with
others in the Panjim's Police Headquarter's jail. And finally it was
reconfirmed when he gave a clean chit to Meta Strips when he became the
Minister for Tourism in the Manohar Parrikar Cabinet. Does Geraldo want to
hear more??? If not, he should stop pissing in his pants over Matanhy's so
called achievements. And if he should think that I am the usual Goan Crab
who wants to pull Matanhy down, he better have a second thought because I
know very well, what ticks Matanhy Saldanha. Geraldo must watch Matanhy's
eyes when he is talked to. Leaders have piercing eyes when confronted. They
do not look away. Cheers.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Geraldo Oliveira" <nigerald at yahoo.com>
To: <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
Cc: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 01:38:03 UTC
Permalink
Dear Geraldo

I cannot but agree with you that the Congress in Goa has proved itself
to be corrupt and incompetant. But then the BJP's track record in
states where it governs is no better. Please refer to reports on
Karnataka, MP, Jharkhand, Chhatisgarh, Uttarakhand, Punjab. Corruption
combined with communalism can be deadly and potent.

The BJP cadre have been brought up on a daily diet of anti-minoritism.
This cannot be wished away overnight. It reflected itself in many ways
during the BJP's first term in office. That was only a sneak preview.
Let them have a free hand and you will soon experience what they can
do as those in BJP ruled states are experiencing now. To imagine that
the BJP will bring about communal harmony is to indulge in
day-dreaming. A Leopard cannot change its spots. If you need a reality
check, please refer once again to the latest issue of Frontline, which
link I posted last time.

I am afraid I cannot agree with you with on the choice Matanhy has
made.He would have been better off as an Independent where he could
control his decisions and actions. If elected as a BJP legislator, he
would be bound by the manifesto, ideology and whips issued by the
party or lose his seat. In fact during his first term he was a silent
spectator to the rash of communal actions taken by the Parrikar
government. And do not forget, Babush cut his teeth under Parrikar. As
Town & Country Planning Minister he set the ground for uncontrolled
concretisation of Goa. The creation of SEZ too began under Parrikar.
So was Micky Pacheco a minister under Parrikar.

The alternative is not to jump from the frying pan into the fire in a
knee-jerk reaction. Look for good candidates and support them
whole-heartedly. They do not need your money. They need your votes.
Even if about 10 good candidates, whether independents or from smaller
parties, are elected, it will make a difference. Small drops make an
ocean. It will have arrested the decline. And the future will offer
more hope.

At the end of the day the people of Goa have to take responsibility
for the kind of government they elect. It is no use crying later.
Democracy is not just about casting one's vote but to think, analyse
and decide which candidate and party will provide good, clean,
efficient and fair governance.

Regards,

Marshall
Post by Geraldo Oliveira
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are
perfectly understandable.
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of
power, atleast for this term. It is foolish argument that Corruption is a
lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and
soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by
bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. More
Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political compulsions
and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. The
Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans
will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. The corrupt
Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. With no
love for the BJP, during the last BJP government (which didnt last the
full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this
secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian
ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community.
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are
unquestionable. He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly
fought for Goa's causes over the years. I assure you Matanhy will have a
voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have
not recognised Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not
deserve to be despised nor attacked.
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
floriano
2012-02-15 16:35:50 UTC
Permalink
GO: More Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political
compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our
survival.

FL: Ha Ha. Tell this to George Menezes of Mumbai who wanted to prove to the
world that BJP's thinking could be changed. Geraldo must call him up
sometimes and have a heart to heart chat with him on this topic. I'm sure
George Menezes will dispell all his halucinations about the BJP wanting
Unity with the Indian Christian world. Ha Ha, once again.

GO: He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's
causes over the years
FL: There is a typo error here. It should read 'selfishly'

GO: I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in
Goa will listen to him
FL: Like they listened to him over the CD and the Good Friday affair. Ha Ha.
On this account I have said umpteen times that people of Cortalim had sent a
ferocious Alsation Dog to the Goa legislative Assembly with hopes that this
dog could rock the place with his resounding barks. But the ferocious dog
turned out to be the BJP 'ear' licking poodle. Ha Ha again.

GO: If Goans have not recognised Matanhy Saldanha.....
FL: The Nagpur based RSS has??? Is this what GO means to say?? If that is
so, then I agree with him one hundred per cent.

GO: It is true that, Matanhy joining the BJP has sent shivers in the
Congress
but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move
that can bring about unity between both Christian and Hindu communities,

FL: Geraldo must not rush to pat his own back for this opinion. Shivers in
the Congress? It is more like 'Jiving' as it looks to me. The Congress camp
cannot stop jiving to see Matanhy having cut his own feet with this move,
especially Congress' Mauvin Godinho..

GO: On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged mistakes of the past
and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining its ranks,
will have to rethink its attitude towards the minority community, which is
positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS
ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as
alleged by some.
FL: Matanhy will embrace nothing. He will be just used by the RSS ( read
Manohar Parrikar) and when the time comes, he will be dumped like a soiled
piece of rag. As I have said earlier, Matanhy has cut his own feet in a
hurry by basically being SELFISH and wanting to get to places faster than
warranted just like the old fox from Saligao..

GO:Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency
which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area
during his tenure
FL: Geraldo must give some credit to Rupert Coutinho's intelligence. No born
leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must follow
the LEADER. We shall see if Matanhy succeeds in painting Cortalim saffron or
gets thrown into the Zuari River. Hope he knows how to swim. :-)

GO: One can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the
next 5 years
FL: It makes me pity the high intelligence of Geraldo come to naught on this
one. He must see through Congress as well as the BJP and focus on something
different at a distant. If not Congress, then BJP and vice versa has turned
intelligent Goans into BUFFOONS for far too long. And now the Bengali
'tricumtel' is vying for a place in between the Congress and the BJP

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

BTW: That Matanhy never had the qualities of a LEADER was known to yours
faithfully the day I met him for the very first time during his fasting
across from the Panjim's Ferry Wharf at the time of the Meta Strip
agitation. This was confirmed a few days later when he was canned along with
others in the Panjim's Police Headquarter's jail. And finally it was
reconfirmed when he gave a clean chit to Meta Strips when he became the
Minister for Tourism in the Manohar Parrikar Cabinet. Does Geraldo want to
hear more??? If not, he should stop pissing in his pants over Matanhy's so
called achievements. And if he should think that I am the usual Goan Crab
who wants to pull Matanhy down, he better have a second thought because I
know very well, what ticks Matanhy Saldanha. Geraldo must watch Matanhy's
eyes when he is talked to. Leaders have piercing eyes when confronted. They
do not look away. Cheers.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Geraldo Oliveira" <nigerald at yahoo.com>
To: <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
Cc: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 01:38:03 UTC
Permalink
Dear Geraldo

I cannot but agree with you that the Congress in Goa has proved itself
to be corrupt and incompetant. But then the BJP's track record in
states where it governs is no better. Please refer to reports on
Karnataka, MP, Jharkhand, Chhatisgarh, Uttarakhand, Punjab. Corruption
combined with communalism can be deadly and potent.

The BJP cadre have been brought up on a daily diet of anti-minoritism.
This cannot be wished away overnight. It reflected itself in many ways
during the BJP's first term in office. That was only a sneak preview.
Let them have a free hand and you will soon experience what they can
do as those in BJP ruled states are experiencing now. To imagine that
the BJP will bring about communal harmony is to indulge in
day-dreaming. A Leopard cannot change its spots. If you need a reality
check, please refer once again to the latest issue of Frontline, which
link I posted last time.

I am afraid I cannot agree with you with on the choice Matanhy has
made.He would have been better off as an Independent where he could
control his decisions and actions. If elected as a BJP legislator, he
would be bound by the manifesto, ideology and whips issued by the
party or lose his seat. In fact during his first term he was a silent
spectator to the rash of communal actions taken by the Parrikar
government. And do not forget, Babush cut his teeth under Parrikar. As
Town & Country Planning Minister he set the ground for uncontrolled
concretisation of Goa. The creation of SEZ too began under Parrikar.
So was Micky Pacheco a minister under Parrikar.

The alternative is not to jump from the frying pan into the fire in a
knee-jerk reaction. Look for good candidates and support them
whole-heartedly. They do not need your money. They need your votes.
Even if about 10 good candidates, whether independents or from smaller
parties, are elected, it will make a difference. Small drops make an
ocean. It will have arrested the decline. And the future will offer
more hope.

At the end of the day the people of Goa have to take responsibility
for the kind of government they elect. It is no use crying later.
Democracy is not just about casting one's vote but to think, analyse
and decide which candidate and party will provide good, clean,
efficient and fair governance.

Regards,

Marshall
Post by Geraldo Oliveira
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are
perfectly understandable.
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of
power, atleast for this term. It is foolish argument that Corruption is a
lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and
soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by
bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. More
Catholic representation in the BJP will change the political compulsions
and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. The
Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans
will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. The corrupt
Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. With no
love for the BJP, during the last BJP government (which didnt last the
full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this
secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian
ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community.
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are
unquestionable. He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly
fought for Goa's causes over the years. I assure you Matanhy will have a
voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have
not recognised Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not
deserve to be despised nor attacked.
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 15:39:51 UTC
Permalink
Floriano Lobo:
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.

Response:
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.

Regards,

Marshall
floriano
2012-02-17 03:23:57 UTC
Permalink
:-))
Glad to note your input
Cheers
floriano


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Mendonza" <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
To: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Post by Marshall Mendonza
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.
Regards,
Marshall
floriano
2012-02-17 03:23:57 UTC
Permalink
:-))
Glad to note your input
Cheers
floriano


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Mendonza" <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
To: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Post by Marshall Mendonza
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.
Regards,
Marshall
floriano
2012-02-17 03:23:57 UTC
Permalink
:-))
Glad to note your input
Cheers
floriano


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Mendonza" <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
To: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Post by Marshall Mendonza
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.
Regards,
Marshall
floriano
2012-02-17 03:23:57 UTC
Permalink
:-))
Glad to note your input
Cheers
floriano


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Mendonza" <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
To: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Post by Marshall Mendonza
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.
Regards,
Marshall
floriano
2012-02-17 03:23:57 UTC
Permalink
:-))
Glad to note your input
Cheers
floriano


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Mendonza" <mmendonza55 at gmail.com>
To: "goanet" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Post by Marshall Mendonza
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.
Regards,
Marshall
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-13 20:03:19 UTC
Permalink
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo Oliveira
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-14 02:47:23 UTC
Permalink
On 13 February 2012 15:03, Geraldo Oliveira <nigerald at yahoo.com> wrote

[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )

http://valpoi.blogspot.com/2011/04/prophets-of-doom-by-gerald-oliveira.html

COMMENT:

Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.

Unfortunately, Manohar Parrikar has his apron strings tied to the RSS and
BJP. I trust those two outfits as much as I trust the Kangress.

I also believe that Matanhy Saldanha has every right to choose which party
he wishes to join. Personally - for the past 10 years - I strongly believed
that he was a BJP. I am glad that he has finally been honest enough to come
out of the closet.


a: I am not sure HOW Gerald Oliveira comes to the conclusion in #1.
"Better" based on what? Past record or present mouthings?

b: re #2, I do not know the meanings of the partisan "talking point" i.e.
Secularist .....and its cousin pseudo-secularist....but I'd say this to
Gerald ..... The VideoCD stuff was NO simple matter. If you have seen the
CD like I have, you (possibly) would have been aghast at the vicious
(albeit clever) attack on Christianity and Christians contained therein.

The 'Good Friday' issue IMHO is a non-issue.

Religion has NO place in public service. If the Church wishes to have a
service for Govt workers during working days, it should do so after working
hours. The Govt is NOT obligated to declare holidays when Govt work is
yet to be done. Those who want to attend religious functions on working
days, should take Vacation or Unpaid leave on those days. What is the sense
of giving Holidays to a set of people who are perpetually on Holiday
anyway? I would support Parrikar if he cancelled ALL religious holidays for
Govt servants.

The Good Friday issue (a personal worship issue) is quite different from
the disgustingly devious and communally divisive issue created by the VCD.
Let us not even begin to confuse the two.

Apologies would be a good start ....but not really enough. There must be a
firm commitment NEVER to repeat that nonsense again. AND, none of the stuff
seen in the attached URLs 1 &2 (See foot of this post)

re #3: This article makes interesting reading. What Geraldo Oliveira is
suggesting, I believe, that One set of Delhi controls be replaced by
another.

Wonder what Gerald Oliveira has to say about that.

jc

refs:
1: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari1
2: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari2

Matanhy may wish to review this post on this Valentine's Day
3: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7880377.stm
Rajan P. Parrikar
2012-02-14 09:57:05 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.
Right now he (not the party) is the most appealing candidate, in my?
view. ?Especially since there is no (credible) regional party alternative.

I hope that if Manohar's slate does pull off a victory (and I am not at all?
sure?that they will), the mistakes he made in the?past will not be repeated. ?
He?faces an uphill task. ?For any effective governance he will have to?
get a clear majority, without any looming threat of blackmail from?
one or two?fellows, as happens in any coalition these days. ?That?
is a tall order.

Note that right now all one can hope for Goa is to slow down its
'slumification.' ?The Goa we knew and loved is gone. ?Thank you,
India, for nothing.


r
Bernado Colaco
2012-02-14 03:54:41 UTC
Permalink
The comments below are like of a man lacking tomatoes.
?
BC
?
?
?

[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-14 14:50:00 UTC
Permalink
Dear Geraldo,

Matanhy is free to join any party and the electorate are free to vote
for whichever candidate they think will represent them best. However,
it must be borne in mind that certain parties are driven by
ideologies. One must check before supporting and voting for such
parties whether their ideology suits oneself. For example, the BJP
subscribes to the hindutva ideology which states and believes that the
Muslims and Christians should be deprived of all rights of a citizen.
They also believe that the hindu culture should be imposed on them.
The BJP governments in states like MP, Gujarat, Karnataka,
Chhatisgarh, Jharkhand have been systematically imposing their
hindutva programmes on the people. Laws have been enacted against
minorities like anti-conversion act, ban on cow slaughter and even
stringent punishments for eating meat. Text books have been changed to
brain wash children with their ideology. In Goa they have been
agitating against the grant of aid to English medium schools while
extending it to Marathi , Kannada and other language schools. If this
is what you wish for, so be it.

I am aware that the Congress has let people down with their corrupt
practices and wrong policies. However, the solution is not to jump
from the frying pan into the fire. I would suggest that you look at
other alternatives. Choose any candidate even an independent who is
clean, honest and with integrity and principles. If even 10 such good
candidates are elected it will make a difference. Many drops make an
ocean. If you are finally left with a choice of choosing between the
devil and the deep blue sea, choose the lesser evil. With corruption
you will survive at least. But with corruption and communalism, you
are done for. Refer to the latest issue of Frontline which link I am
giving below for a better understanding:

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/

Regards,


Marshall





Geraldo Oliveira



With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial
election, which is 'make or break', and based on the current

scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar
government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any
Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years.
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-15 11:27:40 UTC
Permalink
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are perfectly understandable.?
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of power, atleast for this term. ?It is foolish argument that Corruption is a lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. ?More Catholic representation in the BJP ?will change the political compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.?
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. ?The Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. ? The corrupt Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. ?With ?no love for the BJP, ?during the last BJP government ?(which didnt last the full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community. ?
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are unquestionable. ?He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's causes over the years. ?I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have not recognised ?Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not deserve to be despised nor attacked.?
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
??
--
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Geraldo Oliveira?<nigerald at yahoo.com>?wrote:
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo OliveiraKerant,?PO Caranzalem , Goa
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 15:39:51 UTC
Permalink
Floriano Lobo:
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.

Response:
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.

Regards,

Marshall
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-13 20:03:19 UTC
Permalink
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo Oliveira
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-14 02:47:23 UTC
Permalink
On 13 February 2012 15:03, Geraldo Oliveira <nigerald at yahoo.com> wrote

[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )

http://valpoi.blogspot.com/2011/04/prophets-of-doom-by-gerald-oliveira.html

COMMENT:

Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.

Unfortunately, Manohar Parrikar has his apron strings tied to the RSS and
BJP. I trust those two outfits as much as I trust the Kangress.

I also believe that Matanhy Saldanha has every right to choose which party
he wishes to join. Personally - for the past 10 years - I strongly believed
that he was a BJP. I am glad that he has finally been honest enough to come
out of the closet.


a: I am not sure HOW Gerald Oliveira comes to the conclusion in #1.
"Better" based on what? Past record or present mouthings?

b: re #2, I do not know the meanings of the partisan "talking point" i.e.
Secularist .....and its cousin pseudo-secularist....but I'd say this to
Gerald ..... The VideoCD stuff was NO simple matter. If you have seen the
CD like I have, you (possibly) would have been aghast at the vicious
(albeit clever) attack on Christianity and Christians contained therein.

The 'Good Friday' issue IMHO is a non-issue.

Religion has NO place in public service. If the Church wishes to have a
service for Govt workers during working days, it should do so after working
hours. The Govt is NOT obligated to declare holidays when Govt work is
yet to be done. Those who want to attend religious functions on working
days, should take Vacation or Unpaid leave on those days. What is the sense
of giving Holidays to a set of people who are perpetually on Holiday
anyway? I would support Parrikar if he cancelled ALL religious holidays for
Govt servants.

The Good Friday issue (a personal worship issue) is quite different from
the disgustingly devious and communally divisive issue created by the VCD.
Let us not even begin to confuse the two.

Apologies would be a good start ....but not really enough. There must be a
firm commitment NEVER to repeat that nonsense again. AND, none of the stuff
seen in the attached URLs 1 &2 (See foot of this post)

re #3: This article makes interesting reading. What Geraldo Oliveira is
suggesting, I believe, that One set of Delhi controls be replaced by
another.

Wonder what Gerald Oliveira has to say about that.

jc

refs:
1: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari1
2: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari2

Matanhy may wish to review this post on this Valentine's Day
3: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7880377.stm
Rajan P. Parrikar
2012-02-14 09:57:05 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.
Right now he (not the party) is the most appealing candidate, in my?
view. ?Especially since there is no (credible) regional party alternative.

I hope that if Manohar's slate does pull off a victory (and I am not at all?
sure?that they will), the mistakes he made in the?past will not be repeated. ?
He?faces an uphill task. ?For any effective governance he will have to?
get a clear majority, without any looming threat of blackmail from?
one or two?fellows, as happens in any coalition these days. ?That?
is a tall order.

Note that right now all one can hope for Goa is to slow down its
'slumification.' ?The Goa we knew and loved is gone. ?Thank you,
India, for nothing.


r
Bernado Colaco
2012-02-14 03:54:41 UTC
Permalink
The comments below are like of a man lacking tomatoes.
?
BC
?
?
?

[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-14 14:50:00 UTC
Permalink
Dear Geraldo,

Matanhy is free to join any party and the electorate are free to vote
for whichever candidate they think will represent them best. However,
it must be borne in mind that certain parties are driven by
ideologies. One must check before supporting and voting for such
parties whether their ideology suits oneself. For example, the BJP
subscribes to the hindutva ideology which states and believes that the
Muslims and Christians should be deprived of all rights of a citizen.
They also believe that the hindu culture should be imposed on them.
The BJP governments in states like MP, Gujarat, Karnataka,
Chhatisgarh, Jharkhand have been systematically imposing their
hindutva programmes on the people. Laws have been enacted against
minorities like anti-conversion act, ban on cow slaughter and even
stringent punishments for eating meat. Text books have been changed to
brain wash children with their ideology. In Goa they have been
agitating against the grant of aid to English medium schools while
extending it to Marathi , Kannada and other language schools. If this
is what you wish for, so be it.

I am aware that the Congress has let people down with their corrupt
practices and wrong policies. However, the solution is not to jump
from the frying pan into the fire. I would suggest that you look at
other alternatives. Choose any candidate even an independent who is
clean, honest and with integrity and principles. If even 10 such good
candidates are elected it will make a difference. Many drops make an
ocean. If you are finally left with a choice of choosing between the
devil and the deep blue sea, choose the lesser evil. With corruption
you will survive at least. But with corruption and communalism, you
are done for. Refer to the latest issue of Frontline which link I am
giving below for a better understanding:

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/

Regards,


Marshall





Geraldo Oliveira



With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial
election, which is 'make or break', and based on the current

scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar
government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any
Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years.
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-15 11:27:40 UTC
Permalink
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are perfectly understandable.?
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of power, atleast for this term. ?It is foolish argument that Corruption is a lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. ?More Catholic representation in the BJP ?will change the political compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.?
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. ?The Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. ? The corrupt Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. ?With ?no love for the BJP, ?during the last BJP government ?(which didnt last the full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community. ?
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are unquestionable. ?He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's causes over the years. ?I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have not recognised ?Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not deserve to be despised nor attacked.?
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
??
--
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Geraldo Oliveira?<nigerald at yahoo.com>?wrote:
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo OliveiraKerant,?PO Caranzalem , Goa
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 15:39:51 UTC
Permalink
Floriano Lobo:
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.

Response:
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.

Regards,

Marshall
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-13 20:03:19 UTC
Permalink
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo Oliveira
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-14 02:47:23 UTC
Permalink
On 13 February 2012 15:03, Geraldo Oliveira <nigerald at yahoo.com> wrote

[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )

http://valpoi.blogspot.com/2011/04/prophets-of-doom-by-gerald-oliveira.html

COMMENT:

Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.

Unfortunately, Manohar Parrikar has his apron strings tied to the RSS and
BJP. I trust those two outfits as much as I trust the Kangress.

I also believe that Matanhy Saldanha has every right to choose which party
he wishes to join. Personally - for the past 10 years - I strongly believed
that he was a BJP. I am glad that he has finally been honest enough to come
out of the closet.


a: I am not sure HOW Gerald Oliveira comes to the conclusion in #1.
"Better" based on what? Past record or present mouthings?

b: re #2, I do not know the meanings of the partisan "talking point" i.e.
Secularist .....and its cousin pseudo-secularist....but I'd say this to
Gerald ..... The VideoCD stuff was NO simple matter. If you have seen the
CD like I have, you (possibly) would have been aghast at the vicious
(albeit clever) attack on Christianity and Christians contained therein.

The 'Good Friday' issue IMHO is a non-issue.

Religion has NO place in public service. If the Church wishes to have a
service for Govt workers during working days, it should do so after working
hours. The Govt is NOT obligated to declare holidays when Govt work is
yet to be done. Those who want to attend religious functions on working
days, should take Vacation or Unpaid leave on those days. What is the sense
of giving Holidays to a set of people who are perpetually on Holiday
anyway? I would support Parrikar if he cancelled ALL religious holidays for
Govt servants.

The Good Friday issue (a personal worship issue) is quite different from
the disgustingly devious and communally divisive issue created by the VCD.
Let us not even begin to confuse the two.

Apologies would be a good start ....but not really enough. There must be a
firm commitment NEVER to repeat that nonsense again. AND, none of the stuff
seen in the attached URLs 1 &2 (See foot of this post)

re #3: This article makes interesting reading. What Geraldo Oliveira is
suggesting, I believe, that One set of Delhi controls be replaced by
another.

Wonder what Gerald Oliveira has to say about that.

jc

refs:
1: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari1
2: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari2

Matanhy may wish to review this post on this Valentine's Day
3: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7880377.stm
Rajan P. Parrikar
2012-02-14 09:57:05 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.
Right now he (not the party) is the most appealing candidate, in my?
view. ?Especially since there is no (credible) regional party alternative.

I hope that if Manohar's slate does pull off a victory (and I am not at all?
sure?that they will), the mistakes he made in the?past will not be repeated. ?
He?faces an uphill task. ?For any effective governance he will have to?
get a clear majority, without any looming threat of blackmail from?
one or two?fellows, as happens in any coalition these days. ?That?
is a tall order.

Note that right now all one can hope for Goa is to slow down its
'slumification.' ?The Goa we knew and loved is gone. ?Thank you,
India, for nothing.


r
Bernado Colaco
2012-02-14 03:54:41 UTC
Permalink
The comments below are like of a man lacking tomatoes.
?
BC
?
?
?

[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-14 14:50:00 UTC
Permalink
Dear Geraldo,

Matanhy is free to join any party and the electorate are free to vote
for whichever candidate they think will represent them best. However,
it must be borne in mind that certain parties are driven by
ideologies. One must check before supporting and voting for such
parties whether their ideology suits oneself. For example, the BJP
subscribes to the hindutva ideology which states and believes that the
Muslims and Christians should be deprived of all rights of a citizen.
They also believe that the hindu culture should be imposed on them.
The BJP governments in states like MP, Gujarat, Karnataka,
Chhatisgarh, Jharkhand have been systematically imposing their
hindutva programmes on the people. Laws have been enacted against
minorities like anti-conversion act, ban on cow slaughter and even
stringent punishments for eating meat. Text books have been changed to
brain wash children with their ideology. In Goa they have been
agitating against the grant of aid to English medium schools while
extending it to Marathi , Kannada and other language schools. If this
is what you wish for, so be it.

I am aware that the Congress has let people down with their corrupt
practices and wrong policies. However, the solution is not to jump
from the frying pan into the fire. I would suggest that you look at
other alternatives. Choose any candidate even an independent who is
clean, honest and with integrity and principles. If even 10 such good
candidates are elected it will make a difference. Many drops make an
ocean. If you are finally left with a choice of choosing between the
devil and the deep blue sea, choose the lesser evil. With corruption
you will survive at least. But with corruption and communalism, you
are done for. Refer to the latest issue of Frontline which link I am
giving below for a better understanding:

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/

Regards,


Marshall





Geraldo Oliveira



With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial
election, which is 'make or break', and based on the current

scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar
government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any
Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years.
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-15 11:27:40 UTC
Permalink
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are perfectly understandable.?
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of power, atleast for this term. ?It is foolish argument that Corruption is a lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. ?More Catholic representation in the BJP ?will change the political compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.?
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. ?The Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. ? The corrupt Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. ?With ?no love for the BJP, ?during the last BJP government ?(which didnt last the full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community. ?
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are unquestionable. ?He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's causes over the years. ?I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have not recognised ?Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not deserve to be despised nor attacked.?
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
??
--
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Geraldo Oliveira?<nigerald at yahoo.com>?wrote:
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo OliveiraKerant,?PO Caranzalem , Goa
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 15:39:51 UTC
Permalink
Floriano Lobo:
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.

Response:
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.

Regards,

Marshall
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-13 20:03:19 UTC
Permalink
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo Oliveira
colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
2012-02-14 02:47:23 UTC
Permalink
On 13 February 2012 15:03, Geraldo Oliveira <nigerald at yahoo.com> wrote

[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )

http://valpoi.blogspot.com/2011/04/prophets-of-doom-by-gerald-oliveira.html

COMMENT:

Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.

Unfortunately, Manohar Parrikar has his apron strings tied to the RSS and
BJP. I trust those two outfits as much as I trust the Kangress.

I also believe that Matanhy Saldanha has every right to choose which party
he wishes to join. Personally - for the past 10 years - I strongly believed
that he was a BJP. I am glad that he has finally been honest enough to come
out of the closet.


a: I am not sure HOW Gerald Oliveira comes to the conclusion in #1.
"Better" based on what? Past record or present mouthings?

b: re #2, I do not know the meanings of the partisan "talking point" i.e.
Secularist .....and its cousin pseudo-secularist....but I'd say this to
Gerald ..... The VideoCD stuff was NO simple matter. If you have seen the
CD like I have, you (possibly) would have been aghast at the vicious
(albeit clever) attack on Christianity and Christians contained therein.

The 'Good Friday' issue IMHO is a non-issue.

Religion has NO place in public service. If the Church wishes to have a
service for Govt workers during working days, it should do so after working
hours. The Govt is NOT obligated to declare holidays when Govt work is
yet to be done. Those who want to attend religious functions on working
days, should take Vacation or Unpaid leave on those days. What is the sense
of giving Holidays to a set of people who are perpetually on Holiday
anyway? I would support Parrikar if he cancelled ALL religious holidays for
Govt servants.

The Good Friday issue (a personal worship issue) is quite different from
the disgustingly devious and communally divisive issue created by the VCD.
Let us not even begin to confuse the two.

Apologies would be a good start ....but not really enough. There must be a
firm commitment NEVER to repeat that nonsense again. AND, none of the stuff
seen in the attached URLs 1 &2 (See foot of this post)

re #3: This article makes interesting reading. What Geraldo Oliveira is
suggesting, I believe, that One set of Delhi controls be replaced by
another.

Wonder what Gerald Oliveira has to say about that.

jc

refs:
1: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari1
2: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari2

Matanhy may wish to review this post on this Valentine's Day
3: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7880377.stm
Rajan P. Parrikar
2012-02-14 09:57:05 UTC
Permalink
To Goanet -
Post by colaco1 at gmail.com (J. Colaco )
Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly
"doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the
Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that.
Right now he (not the party) is the most appealing candidate, in my?
view. ?Especially since there is no (credible) regional party alternative.

I hope that if Manohar's slate does pull off a victory (and I am not at all?
sure?that they will), the mistakes he made in the?past will not be repeated. ?
He?faces an uphill task. ?For any effective governance he will have to?
get a clear majority, without any looming threat of blackmail from?
one or two?fellows, as happens in any coalition these days. ?That?
is a tall order.

Note that right now all one can hope for Goa is to slow down its
'slumification.' ?The Goa we knew and loved is gone. ?Thank you,
India, for nothing.


r
Bernado Colaco
2012-02-14 03:54:41 UTC
Permalink
The comments below are like of a man lacking tomatoes.
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BC
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[1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its
ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for
the next 5 years

[2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old
controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing
ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by
?secular? Congress headed by Digubab

[3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as
Geraldo Oliveira )
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-14 14:50:00 UTC
Permalink
Dear Geraldo,

Matanhy is free to join any party and the electorate are free to vote
for whichever candidate they think will represent them best. However,
it must be borne in mind that certain parties are driven by
ideologies. One must check before supporting and voting for such
parties whether their ideology suits oneself. For example, the BJP
subscribes to the hindutva ideology which states and believes that the
Muslims and Christians should be deprived of all rights of a citizen.
They also believe that the hindu culture should be imposed on them.
The BJP governments in states like MP, Gujarat, Karnataka,
Chhatisgarh, Jharkhand have been systematically imposing their
hindutva programmes on the people. Laws have been enacted against
minorities like anti-conversion act, ban on cow slaughter and even
stringent punishments for eating meat. Text books have been changed to
brain wash children with their ideology. In Goa they have been
agitating against the grant of aid to English medium schools while
extending it to Marathi , Kannada and other language schools. If this
is what you wish for, so be it.

I am aware that the Congress has let people down with their corrupt
practices and wrong policies. However, the solution is not to jump
from the frying pan into the fire. I would suggest that you look at
other alternatives. Choose any candidate even an independent who is
clean, honest and with integrity and principles. If even 10 such good
candidates are elected it will make a difference. Many drops make an
ocean. If you are finally left with a choice of choosing between the
devil and the deep blue sea, choose the lesser evil. With corruption
you will survive at least. But with corruption and communalism, you
are done for. Refer to the latest issue of Frontline which link I am
giving below for a better understanding:

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/

Regards,


Marshall





Geraldo Oliveira



With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial
election, which is 'make or break', and based on the current

scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar
government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any
Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years.
Geraldo Oliveira
2012-02-15 11:27:40 UTC
Permalink
Dear Marshall,
I read your comments to my article on goanet and your fears as stated are perfectly understandable.?
Goans must throw the anti Goan and absolutely corrupt Congress Party out of power, atleast for this term. ?It is foolish argument that Corruption is a lesser evil than Communalism because Corruption destroys the very heart and soul of a society and affects everybody. Communalism can be dealt in Goa by bringing about unity between both Hindu and the Christian communities. ?More Catholic representation in the BJP ?will change the political compulsions and bring about unity among Goans wich is very vital for our survival.?
The real danger is the polarisation of the two major communities. ?The Christians are fast receding in numbers and if we don't unite now, Goans will be outnumbered and wiped out like the east indians. ? The corrupt Congress has used the 'secular' card effectively to its advantage. ?With ?no love for the BJP, ?during the last BJP government ?(which didnt last the full term), 11.8 % jobs were given to the christian community whereas this secular Congress Government led by Digambar Kamat with so many christian ministers, only 8.5% jobs went to the Christian community. ?
Leaving aside Matanhy's achievements, his honesty and integrity are unquestionable. ?He is visionary and a lone crusader who has selflessly fought for Goa's causes over the years. ?I assure you Matanhy will have a voice where ever he is, and the BJP in Goa will listen to him. If Goans have not recognised ?Matanhy Saldanha, so be it, but definitely this man does not deserve to be despised nor attacked.?
Mog assom,
Geraldo Oliveira
??
--
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Geraldo Oliveira?<nigerald at yahoo.com>?wrote:
?Matanhy and BJP?As expected, Matanhy?s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush.? This is exactly what the so called ?secular? ?hypocrisy is all about.? Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our? ?secularist? will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and? Good Friday issue,? than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI? deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ?secular? Congress headed by??Digubab.? Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ?secularist?.?It is true that, Matanhy? joining the BJP has sent? shivers in the Congress
ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between ?both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. ?While the Congress has plundered ?and sold Goa, it?s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. ??On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged? mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining ?its ranks, will have to? rethink ?its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some.?
Matanhy ?is a shrewd man? with a strong mind of his own,? capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. ?Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP ??than under any Congress Government? which is totally anti Goan.?Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of ?questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy?s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just? to point out one example : SEZ in Goa ?was stopped? only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led? Government not so long ago. ?It has always been Matanhy?s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. ???Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has
joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. ?Anybody? can book Matanhy? for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. ?It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks.??With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ?make or break?, ?and based on the current
scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. ???Geraldo OliveiraKerant,?PO Caranzalem , Goa
Marshall Mendonza
2012-02-16 15:39:51 UTC
Permalink
Floriano Lobo:
No born leader follows the followers. On the Contrary, the followers must
follow the LEADER.

Response:
On a humourous note I am reminded of Jim Hacker in the comedy serial Yes
Minister telling his secretary Humphery very innocently " I am their
leader, I have to follow them"
It appears in many ways that the serial Yer Minister reflected real life
situations.

Regards,

Marshall
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