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cornel
2006-06-25 16:14:39 UTC
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From: "cornel" <cornel at btinternet.com>
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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: The rock solid Christian moral code
Hi Mario
I am ever so glad you raised the issue, yet again, about "a rock solid
Christian moral code." For your information, and not to be disappointed,
the following shared your "rock solid Christian moral code."
Adolf Hitler, who was baptised a Catholic and named after St Adolf
(sometimes spelt as Adolph). He became one of the greatest recorded mass
murderers of modern times. This is despite the rock solid Christian moral
code he received from his parents church and school on the border between
Austria and Germany.
Please ignore the ugly rumour doing the rounds in Berlin at the World Cup
that, Hitler's mother was recently found and that the poor woman was
pregnant again!
Joseph (Josif) Stalin, was baptised an Orthodox Russian Christian, in
Georgia, and named after St Joseph. He subsequently joined a seminary to
become a priest. Yes, you can see, he was imbued by your rock solid moral
code, yet he became a dictator in the Soviet Union and was responsible for
the murder of millions.
Hitler and Stalin lived parallel lives incidentally but the former died in
1945 and the latter in 1953.
Pol Pot of Cambodia, went to a Catholic school, although nominally a
Buddhist. His biography indicates that he was strongly influenced by
Catholicism and indeed decided to study electronics in Paris, France,
where Catholicism was dominant. Despite all this, he became a mass
murderer and his victims are being located, where they were murdered and
buried, every day to this day.
The Mafia consists of devout Italian Catholics, all brought up in your
rock solid moral code. They have been engaged in every conceivable
skulduggery and crime known to man. Endless books and films have been
produced about the Mafia. Perhaps you have yet to read/view these.
The Cosa Nostra, is a Sicilian, Mafia equivalent. All members are brought
up strictly as per your rock solid moral code in this devout Catholic
stronghold with many impressive cathedrals that are definitely worth
seeing. But members of this extensive secretive group are utterly ruthless
in terms of murder and everything evil under the sun.
In South America, there have been so many Catholic dictators imbued by your
rock solid Christian moral code but are known to have murdered many innocent
people. This has happened in Africa too among Christian leaders in more
recent times.
Now, dear Mario, whatever happened to your rock solid Christian moral code
with a few examples as above, straight from my memory? I shudder to think
how many others could be lined up in the above list with the minimum of
effort. We don't even have to step back into history for other terrible
examples. All the above evils have unravelled literally before our very
eyes.
Does your much trumpeted rock solid Christian moral code have a built in
capacity to crumble to dust rather easily? Is the rock you refer to, made up
of rather poor clay?
The ball is now in your court but do take your time to respond. There is
an armful for you here.
Cornel
PS I have already dealt with the issue of Catholic evangelisation in India.
I do not need to repeat myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Goveia" <mgoveia at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic
Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for
the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because
the approach is pretty
provocative I think.
Cornel,
I thought you were the one who is receptive to all kinds of knowledge all
of which you consider to be provisional. Now you are telling us that
someone else in India or Asia being provided with knowledge about
Christianity is "provocative" and somehow "generates real fear in" you.
What is "provocative" about one being provided with information that one
can choose to accept or deny, as long as this not done in an aggressive,
coercive or personally intrusive way?
Fear?! What are you fearful of? Are you trying to skew the debate with
such verbal histrionics? I think what you really fear is that they will
become Christians and accept the rock solid Christian moral code.
cornel
2006-06-25 16:14:39 UTC
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This post seems to have got lost. Hence I send it again.
Thanks
Cornel
----- Original Message -----
From: "cornel" <cornel at btinternet.com>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: The rock solid Christian moral code
Hi Mario
I am ever so glad you raised the issue, yet again, about "a rock solid
Christian moral code." For your information, and not to be disappointed,
the following shared your "rock solid Christian moral code."
Adolf Hitler, who was baptised a Catholic and named after St Adolf
(sometimes spelt as Adolph). He became one of the greatest recorded mass
murderers of modern times. This is despite the rock solid Christian moral
code he received from his parents church and school on the border between
Austria and Germany.
Please ignore the ugly rumour doing the rounds in Berlin at the World Cup
that, Hitler's mother was recently found and that the poor woman was
pregnant again!
Joseph (Josif) Stalin, was baptised an Orthodox Russian Christian, in
Georgia, and named after St Joseph. He subsequently joined a seminary to
become a priest. Yes, you can see, he was imbued by your rock solid moral
code, yet he became a dictator in the Soviet Union and was responsible for
the murder of millions.
Hitler and Stalin lived parallel lives incidentally but the former died in
1945 and the latter in 1953.
Pol Pot of Cambodia, went to a Catholic school, although nominally a
Buddhist. His biography indicates that he was strongly influenced by
Catholicism and indeed decided to study electronics in Paris, France,
where Catholicism was dominant. Despite all this, he became a mass
murderer and his victims are being located, where they were murdered and
buried, every day to this day.
The Mafia consists of devout Italian Catholics, all brought up in your
rock solid moral code. They have been engaged in every conceivable
skulduggery and crime known to man. Endless books and films have been
produced about the Mafia. Perhaps you have yet to read/view these.
The Cosa Nostra, is a Sicilian, Mafia equivalent. All members are brought
up strictly as per your rock solid moral code in this devout Catholic
stronghold with many impressive cathedrals that are definitely worth
seeing. But members of this extensive secretive group are utterly ruthless
in terms of murder and everything evil under the sun.
In South America, there have been so many Catholic dictators imbued by your
rock solid Christian moral code but are known to have murdered many innocent
people. This has happened in Africa too among Christian leaders in more
recent times.
Now, dear Mario, whatever happened to your rock solid Christian moral code
with a few examples as above, straight from my memory? I shudder to think
how many others could be lined up in the above list with the minimum of
effort. We don't even have to step back into history for other terrible
examples. All the above evils have unravelled literally before our very
eyes.
Does your much trumpeted rock solid Christian moral code have a built in
capacity to crumble to dust rather easily? Is the rock you refer to, made up
of rather poor clay?
The ball is now in your court but do take your time to respond. There is
an armful for you here.
Cornel
PS I have already dealt with the issue of Catholic evangelisation in India.
I do not need to repeat myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Goveia" <mgoveia at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic
Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for
the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because
the approach is pretty
provocative I think.
Cornel,
I thought you were the one who is receptive to all kinds of knowledge all
of which you consider to be provisional. Now you are telling us that
someone else in India or Asia being provided with knowledge about
Christianity is "provocative" and somehow "generates real fear in" you.
What is "provocative" about one being provided with information that one
can choose to accept or deny, as long as this not done in an aggressive,
coercive or personally intrusive way?
Fear?! What are you fearful of? Are you trying to skew the debate with
such verbal histrionics? I think what you really fear is that they will
become Christians and accept the rock solid Christian moral code.
cornel
2006-06-25 16:14:39 UTC
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This post seems to have got lost. Hence I send it again.
Thanks
Cornel
----- Original Message -----
From: "cornel" <cornel at btinternet.com>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: The rock solid Christian moral code
Hi Mario
I am ever so glad you raised the issue, yet again, about "a rock solid
Christian moral code." For your information, and not to be disappointed,
the following shared your "rock solid Christian moral code."
Adolf Hitler, who was baptised a Catholic and named after St Adolf
(sometimes spelt as Adolph). He became one of the greatest recorded mass
murderers of modern times. This is despite the rock solid Christian moral
code he received from his parents church and school on the border between
Austria and Germany.
Please ignore the ugly rumour doing the rounds in Berlin at the World Cup
that, Hitler's mother was recently found and that the poor woman was
pregnant again!
Joseph (Josif) Stalin, was baptised an Orthodox Russian Christian, in
Georgia, and named after St Joseph. He subsequently joined a seminary to
become a priest. Yes, you can see, he was imbued by your rock solid moral
code, yet he became a dictator in the Soviet Union and was responsible for
the murder of millions.
Hitler and Stalin lived parallel lives incidentally but the former died in
1945 and the latter in 1953.
Pol Pot of Cambodia, went to a Catholic school, although nominally a
Buddhist. His biography indicates that he was strongly influenced by
Catholicism and indeed decided to study electronics in Paris, France,
where Catholicism was dominant. Despite all this, he became a mass
murderer and his victims are being located, where they were murdered and
buried, every day to this day.
The Mafia consists of devout Italian Catholics, all brought up in your
rock solid moral code. They have been engaged in every conceivable
skulduggery and crime known to man. Endless books and films have been
produced about the Mafia. Perhaps you have yet to read/view these.
The Cosa Nostra, is a Sicilian, Mafia equivalent. All members are brought
up strictly as per your rock solid moral code in this devout Catholic
stronghold with many impressive cathedrals that are definitely worth
seeing. But members of this extensive secretive group are utterly ruthless
in terms of murder and everything evil under the sun.
In South America, there have been so many Catholic dictators imbued by your
rock solid Christian moral code but are known to have murdered many innocent
people. This has happened in Africa too among Christian leaders in more
recent times.
Now, dear Mario, whatever happened to your rock solid Christian moral code
with a few examples as above, straight from my memory? I shudder to think
how many others could be lined up in the above list with the minimum of
effort. We don't even have to step back into history for other terrible
examples. All the above evils have unravelled literally before our very
eyes.
Does your much trumpeted rock solid Christian moral code have a built in
capacity to crumble to dust rather easily? Is the rock you refer to, made up
of rather poor clay?
The ball is now in your court but do take your time to respond. There is
an armful for you here.
Cornel
PS I have already dealt with the issue of Catholic evangelisation in India.
I do not need to repeat myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Goveia" <mgoveia at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic
Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for
the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because
the approach is pretty
provocative I think.
Cornel,
I thought you were the one who is receptive to all kinds of knowledge all
of which you consider to be provisional. Now you are telling us that
someone else in India or Asia being provided with knowledge about
Christianity is "provocative" and somehow "generates real fear in" you.
What is "provocative" about one being provided with information that one
can choose to accept or deny, as long as this not done in an aggressive,
coercive or personally intrusive way?
Fear?! What are you fearful of? Are you trying to skew the debate with
such verbal histrionics? I think what you really fear is that they will
become Christians and accept the rock solid Christian moral code.
cornel
2006-06-25 16:14:39 UTC
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Colleagues
This post seems to have got lost. Hence I send it again.
Thanks
Cornel
----- Original Message -----
From: "cornel" <cornel at btinternet.com>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: The rock solid Christian moral code
Hi Mario
I am ever so glad you raised the issue, yet again, about "a rock solid
Christian moral code." For your information, and not to be disappointed,
the following shared your "rock solid Christian moral code."
Adolf Hitler, who was baptised a Catholic and named after St Adolf
(sometimes spelt as Adolph). He became one of the greatest recorded mass
murderers of modern times. This is despite the rock solid Christian moral
code he received from his parents church and school on the border between
Austria and Germany.
Please ignore the ugly rumour doing the rounds in Berlin at the World Cup
that, Hitler's mother was recently found and that the poor woman was
pregnant again!
Joseph (Josif) Stalin, was baptised an Orthodox Russian Christian, in
Georgia, and named after St Joseph. He subsequently joined a seminary to
become a priest. Yes, you can see, he was imbued by your rock solid moral
code, yet he became a dictator in the Soviet Union and was responsible for
the murder of millions.
Hitler and Stalin lived parallel lives incidentally but the former died in
1945 and the latter in 1953.
Pol Pot of Cambodia, went to a Catholic school, although nominally a
Buddhist. His biography indicates that he was strongly influenced by
Catholicism and indeed decided to study electronics in Paris, France,
where Catholicism was dominant. Despite all this, he became a mass
murderer and his victims are being located, where they were murdered and
buried, every day to this day.
The Mafia consists of devout Italian Catholics, all brought up in your
rock solid moral code. They have been engaged in every conceivable
skulduggery and crime known to man. Endless books and films have been
produced about the Mafia. Perhaps you have yet to read/view these.
The Cosa Nostra, is a Sicilian, Mafia equivalent. All members are brought
up strictly as per your rock solid moral code in this devout Catholic
stronghold with many impressive cathedrals that are definitely worth
seeing. But members of this extensive secretive group are utterly ruthless
in terms of murder and everything evil under the sun.
In South America, there have been so many Catholic dictators imbued by your
rock solid Christian moral code but are known to have murdered many innocent
people. This has happened in Africa too among Christian leaders in more
recent times.
Now, dear Mario, whatever happened to your rock solid Christian moral code
with a few examples as above, straight from my memory? I shudder to think
how many others could be lined up in the above list with the minimum of
effort. We don't even have to step back into history for other terrible
examples. All the above evils have unravelled literally before our very
eyes.
Does your much trumpeted rock solid Christian moral code have a built in
capacity to crumble to dust rather easily? Is the rock you refer to, made up
of rather poor clay?
The ball is now in your court but do take your time to respond. There is
an armful for you here.
Cornel
PS I have already dealt with the issue of Catholic evangelisation in India.
I do not need to repeat myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Goveia" <mgoveia at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic
Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for
the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because
the approach is pretty
provocative I think.
Cornel,
I thought you were the one who is receptive to all kinds of knowledge all
of which you consider to be provisional. Now you are telling us that
someone else in India or Asia being provided with knowledge about
Christianity is "provocative" and somehow "generates real fear in" you.
What is "provocative" about one being provided with information that one
can choose to accept or deny, as long as this not done in an aggressive,
coercive or personally intrusive way?
Fear?! What are you fearful of? Are you trying to skew the debate with
such verbal histrionics? I think what you really fear is that they will
become Christians and accept the rock solid Christian moral code.
cornel
2006-06-25 16:14:39 UTC
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Colleagues
This post seems to have got lost. Hence I send it again.
Thanks
Cornel
----- Original Message -----
From: "cornel" <cornel at btinternet.com>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: The rock solid Christian moral code
Hi Mario
I am ever so glad you raised the issue, yet again, about "a rock solid
Christian moral code." For your information, and not to be disappointed,
the following shared your "rock solid Christian moral code."
Adolf Hitler, who was baptised a Catholic and named after St Adolf
(sometimes spelt as Adolph). He became one of the greatest recorded mass
murderers of modern times. This is despite the rock solid Christian moral
code he received from his parents church and school on the border between
Austria and Germany.
Please ignore the ugly rumour doing the rounds in Berlin at the World Cup
that, Hitler's mother was recently found and that the poor woman was
pregnant again!
Joseph (Josif) Stalin, was baptised an Orthodox Russian Christian, in
Georgia, and named after St Joseph. He subsequently joined a seminary to
become a priest. Yes, you can see, he was imbued by your rock solid moral
code, yet he became a dictator in the Soviet Union and was responsible for
the murder of millions.
Hitler and Stalin lived parallel lives incidentally but the former died in
1945 and the latter in 1953.
Pol Pot of Cambodia, went to a Catholic school, although nominally a
Buddhist. His biography indicates that he was strongly influenced by
Catholicism and indeed decided to study electronics in Paris, France,
where Catholicism was dominant. Despite all this, he became a mass
murderer and his victims are being located, where they were murdered and
buried, every day to this day.
The Mafia consists of devout Italian Catholics, all brought up in your
rock solid moral code. They have been engaged in every conceivable
skulduggery and crime known to man. Endless books and films have been
produced about the Mafia. Perhaps you have yet to read/view these.
The Cosa Nostra, is a Sicilian, Mafia equivalent. All members are brought
up strictly as per your rock solid moral code in this devout Catholic
stronghold with many impressive cathedrals that are definitely worth
seeing. But members of this extensive secretive group are utterly ruthless
in terms of murder and everything evil under the sun.
In South America, there have been so many Catholic dictators imbued by your
rock solid Christian moral code but are known to have murdered many innocent
people. This has happened in Africa too among Christian leaders in more
recent times.
Now, dear Mario, whatever happened to your rock solid Christian moral code
with a few examples as above, straight from my memory? I shudder to think
how many others could be lined up in the above list with the minimum of
effort. We don't even have to step back into history for other terrible
examples. All the above evils have unravelled literally before our very
eyes.
Does your much trumpeted rock solid Christian moral code have a built in
capacity to crumble to dust rather easily? Is the rock you refer to, made up
of rather poor clay?
The ball is now in your court but do take your time to respond. There is
an armful for you here.
Cornel
PS I have already dealt with the issue of Catholic evangelisation in India.
I do not need to repeat myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Goveia" <mgoveia at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic
Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for
the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because
the approach is pretty
provocative I think.
Cornel,
I thought you were the one who is receptive to all kinds of knowledge all
of which you consider to be provisional. Now you are telling us that
someone else in India or Asia being provided with knowledge about
Christianity is "provocative" and somehow "generates real fear in" you.
What is "provocative" about one being provided with information that one
can choose to accept or deny, as long as this not done in an aggressive,
coercive or personally intrusive way?
Fear?! What are you fearful of? Are you trying to skew the debate with
such verbal histrionics? I think what you really fear is that they will
become Christians and accept the rock solid Christian moral code.
cornel
2006-06-25 16:14:39 UTC
Permalink
Colleagues
This post seems to have got lost. Hence I send it again.
Thanks
Cornel
----- Original Message -----
From: "cornel" <cornel at btinternet.com>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: The rock solid Christian moral code
Hi Mario
I am ever so glad you raised the issue, yet again, about "a rock solid
Christian moral code." For your information, and not to be disappointed,
the following shared your "rock solid Christian moral code."
Adolf Hitler, who was baptised a Catholic and named after St Adolf
(sometimes spelt as Adolph). He became one of the greatest recorded mass
murderers of modern times. This is despite the rock solid Christian moral
code he received from his parents church and school on the border between
Austria and Germany.
Please ignore the ugly rumour doing the rounds in Berlin at the World Cup
that, Hitler's mother was recently found and that the poor woman was
pregnant again!
Joseph (Josif) Stalin, was baptised an Orthodox Russian Christian, in
Georgia, and named after St Joseph. He subsequently joined a seminary to
become a priest. Yes, you can see, he was imbued by your rock solid moral
code, yet he became a dictator in the Soviet Union and was responsible for
the murder of millions.
Hitler and Stalin lived parallel lives incidentally but the former died in
1945 and the latter in 1953.
Pol Pot of Cambodia, went to a Catholic school, although nominally a
Buddhist. His biography indicates that he was strongly influenced by
Catholicism and indeed decided to study electronics in Paris, France,
where Catholicism was dominant. Despite all this, he became a mass
murderer and his victims are being located, where they were murdered and
buried, every day to this day.
The Mafia consists of devout Italian Catholics, all brought up in your
rock solid moral code. They have been engaged in every conceivable
skulduggery and crime known to man. Endless books and films have been
produced about the Mafia. Perhaps you have yet to read/view these.
The Cosa Nostra, is a Sicilian, Mafia equivalent. All members are brought
up strictly as per your rock solid moral code in this devout Catholic
stronghold with many impressive cathedrals that are definitely worth
seeing. But members of this extensive secretive group are utterly ruthless
in terms of murder and everything evil under the sun.
In South America, there have been so many Catholic dictators imbued by your
rock solid Christian moral code but are known to have murdered many innocent
people. This has happened in Africa too among Christian leaders in more
recent times.
Now, dear Mario, whatever happened to your rock solid Christian moral code
with a few examples as above, straight from my memory? I shudder to think
how many others could be lined up in the above list with the minimum of
effort. We don't even have to step back into history for other terrible
examples. All the above evils have unravelled literally before our very
eyes.
Does your much trumpeted rock solid Christian moral code have a built in
capacity to crumble to dust rather easily? Is the rock you refer to, made up
of rather poor clay?
The ball is now in your court but do take your time to respond. There is
an armful for you here.
Cornel
PS I have already dealt with the issue of Catholic evangelisation in India.
I do not need to repeat myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Goveia" <mgoveia at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic
Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for
the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because
the approach is pretty
provocative I think.
Cornel,
I thought you were the one who is receptive to all kinds of knowledge all
of which you consider to be provisional. Now you are telling us that
someone else in India or Asia being provided with knowledge about
Christianity is "provocative" and somehow "generates real fear in" you.
What is "provocative" about one being provided with information that one
can choose to accept or deny, as long as this not done in an aggressive,
coercive or personally intrusive way?
Fear?! What are you fearful of? Are you trying to skew the debate with
such verbal histrionics? I think what you really fear is that they will
become Christians and accept the rock solid Christian moral code.
cornel
2006-06-25 16:14:39 UTC
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This post seems to have got lost. Hence I send it again.
Thanks
Cornel
----- Original Message -----
From: "cornel" <cornel at btinternet.com>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: The rock solid Christian moral code
Hi Mario
I am ever so glad you raised the issue, yet again, about "a rock solid
Christian moral code." For your information, and not to be disappointed,
the following shared your "rock solid Christian moral code."
Adolf Hitler, who was baptised a Catholic and named after St Adolf
(sometimes spelt as Adolph). He became one of the greatest recorded mass
murderers of modern times. This is despite the rock solid Christian moral
code he received from his parents church and school on the border between
Austria and Germany.
Please ignore the ugly rumour doing the rounds in Berlin at the World Cup
that, Hitler's mother was recently found and that the poor woman was
pregnant again!
Joseph (Josif) Stalin, was baptised an Orthodox Russian Christian, in
Georgia, and named after St Joseph. He subsequently joined a seminary to
become a priest. Yes, you can see, he was imbued by your rock solid moral
code, yet he became a dictator in the Soviet Union and was responsible for
the murder of millions.
Hitler and Stalin lived parallel lives incidentally but the former died in
1945 and the latter in 1953.
Pol Pot of Cambodia, went to a Catholic school, although nominally a
Buddhist. His biography indicates that he was strongly influenced by
Catholicism and indeed decided to study electronics in Paris, France,
where Catholicism was dominant. Despite all this, he became a mass
murderer and his victims are being located, where they were murdered and
buried, every day to this day.
The Mafia consists of devout Italian Catholics, all brought up in your
rock solid moral code. They have been engaged in every conceivable
skulduggery and crime known to man. Endless books and films have been
produced about the Mafia. Perhaps you have yet to read/view these.
The Cosa Nostra, is a Sicilian, Mafia equivalent. All members are brought
up strictly as per your rock solid moral code in this devout Catholic
stronghold with many impressive cathedrals that are definitely worth
seeing. But members of this extensive secretive group are utterly ruthless
in terms of murder and everything evil under the sun.
In South America, there have been so many Catholic dictators imbued by your
rock solid Christian moral code but are known to have murdered many innocent
people. This has happened in Africa too among Christian leaders in more
recent times.
Now, dear Mario, whatever happened to your rock solid Christian moral code
with a few examples as above, straight from my memory? I shudder to think
how many others could be lined up in the above list with the minimum of
effort. We don't even have to step back into history for other terrible
examples. All the above evils have unravelled literally before our very
eyes.
Does your much trumpeted rock solid Christian moral code have a built in
capacity to crumble to dust rather easily? Is the rock you refer to, made up
of rather poor clay?
The ball is now in your court but do take your time to respond. There is
an armful for you here.
Cornel
PS I have already dealt with the issue of Catholic evangelisation in India.
I do not need to repeat myself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Goveia" <mgoveia at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet at goanet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic
Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for
the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because
the approach is pretty
provocative I think.
Cornel,
I thought you were the one who is receptive to all kinds of knowledge all
of which you consider to be provisional. Now you are telling us that
someone else in India or Asia being provided with knowledge about
Christianity is "provocative" and somehow "generates real fear in" you.
What is "provocative" about one being provided with information that one
can choose to accept or deny, as long as this not done in an aggressive,
coercive or personally intrusive way?
Fear?! What are you fearful of? Are you trying to skew the debate with
such verbal histrionics? I think what you really fear is that they will
become Christians and accept the rock solid Christian moral code.
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