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[Goanet] The Britain you don't know
Eddie D'Sa
2003-02-25 10:05:02 UTC
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THE BRITAIN YOU DON'T KNOW

What do most people in India associate with Britain? Here's a guess: a royal
family - starchy queen, bumbling duke and 3 or 4 undistinguished children.
Then there is Big Ben and a warmongering PM called Tony Blair. A few Indian
millionaires & thousands of Indian restaurants. Football games & thousands
of tourists (mostly from the rougher trades) visiting Goa.
But do they know of thousands of incidents of abuse & assaults against
Indians in Britain? The Indian & Goan press (still in the throes of a
colonial hangover?) is more likely to report English football results and
the woes of British tourists in Goa than the problems of their own
compatriots in Britain.
Incidents run in the thousands - here is a small sample for the year 2000
gleaned from assorted papers, including Asian-run weeklies. Goan victims are
fewer because Goans are hardly visible - smaller population, no shopfronts,
little civic
involvement. Where are they? Probably at church or some village celebration,
at least the older lot.

RACE CASES 2000 (a small sample)
[Victims below are of Indian or Pakistani origin.]

Portsmouth (South England)
Asian student, 23, faces surgery after a savage attack by a gang of 4 thugs.
Rushed to hospital with a broken nose, fractured cheekbone and extensive
bruising.

Leicester
Football match abandoned when a gang of 15 white youths burst into the
pitch, chasing the Asian players with baseball bats, beer bottles and other
weapons during an unprovoked attack. The manager of the Asian team was
cornered in the changing room and knocked down & kicked.

Manchester
Asian cab driver waylaid by some youths and attacked. They then drove the
taxi over Tariq twice. He was left lying in a pool of blood and died later.
The following
day up to 1000 cab drivers from across east Lancashire drove around in
protest. Two years ago a cab driver was murdered in Bolton and a few months
ago another escaped being strangled.

Coventry
Two lighted petrol bombs thrown into Asian shop. Shop was saved but he
suffered burns.

South London
Asian cabdriver was carrying 3 white passengers. On the way, the front seat
passenger applies the handbrake, stops the car and all three keep punching
the driver. He was forced to hand over his change (?20) and was bundled out
of his car. The car was found abandoned and ablaze by police.

Midlands
Cab driver was dragged from his cab by his 3 passengers and beaten
unconscious. He was flung headfirst into a lamp post, kicked to the floor
and a heavy metal sign was slammed into his chest. He was rescued when
another driver pulled up to investigate.

West London
Asian man was alone in his bookshop late on Sunday night when a gang of 4 or
5 youths, boys & girls 13-16 entered. They tried to steal a football and he
tried to stop them. He was kicked and punched. He died in hospital from head
injuries a day later. He leaves a wife & 3 children. The police later caught
3 teenagers including a 15-year girl.

South Wales
A Sikh had gone for a quiet drink with a white friend. There was an exchange
with 4 white men. The Sikh & friend were knocked and punched. Mr Singh was
left bleeding on the pavement and died on his arrival at hospital.

West London
Two Asian men had pulled up at traffic lights. The driver in the adjoining
car made offensive gestures before speeding off. Later he reappeared with
friends in 2 other vehicles. They repeatedly rammed the Asian car, then 7
men armed with metal bars jumped from the convoy, battered the Asians after
given them chase near Heathrow airport. Their car was smashed.

Liverpool
An Asian TV scriptwriter was driving at night with his white fianc?e. On his
way he was forced off the road by a Ford car and was racially abused. 2 more
white men suddenly appeared. The Asian was hit in the face with a beer can
and dragged out if his car. The Ford driver grabbed his hand and started
biting it. He was kicked until almost unconscious and dragged towards the
sharp edged metal fence. They were shouting: 'Spike him - put the Paki's
head on a spike !' Meanwhile his girlfriend was being attacked by a woman
passenger (17) while still in the car. She said: 'One of the men took a
flying kick to my head.'
The couple were saved when a police car arrived at the scene. Sunil was
treated foe broken nose ans cheekbone. His right eye was damaged and he lost
several teeth.

Manchester
An Asian taxi driver was flagged down by pack of youths. One of the thugs
smashed the passenger side window, reached for the driver's side and punched
him in the face several times and took his key. They next pulled him out of
his car and 4 or 5 of them began beating him up. Then more joined in. A
fellow cab driver found him in a pool of blood. He could hardly speak and
his eye was closed. An ambulance had arrived but took away not the victim
but the attackers who were slightly injured. He took the victim in his own
taxi to the hospital. There he found the same thugs laughing and threatening
the 2 Asians. The doctor said the victim's cheekbone was broken and he might
lose an eye.

South London
An Asian man walking out of the tube station was approached by an unknown
white young man, beaten, stabbed several times and left lying in the street.
Police were
called and the man was taken to a south London hospital.
---------------------------------------------

For more incidents & details,
visit www.goa-world.net/overseas-digest/Archives 3/2000 racecases.html
Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-02-25 14:16:51 UTC
Permalink
Eddie,

I guess whatever isolated incident involving a Briton overseas, gets
a lot of press coverage in UK. Thanks for a very informative posting.

Didn't the British "invent" Football violence too? In the past, I had
read about the British riling against the Irish. Now I hear that the
Irish have prospered and employ the British! The British are still
under the illusion of 'the Sun never setting on the British empire'!
While the rest of the world has advanced in every respect, I have not
heard of Britain doing anything significant, other than suck up to the
US!!

I think the Asian community is not very cohesive on account of their
religious differences. Well, people of colour will always find it
difficult to gain acceptance in any White dominated country. The US is
a bit different with a sizeable Hispanic and Black population. Then
again, one can never say that there is no racism and especially after
9/11 things have changed quite a bit.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
From: "Eddie D'Sa" <gdigest at talk21.com>
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THE BRITAIN YOU DON'T KNOW
What do most people in India associate with Britain? Here's a guess: a
royal
<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Police were
called and the man was taken to a south London hospital.
---------------------------------------------
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Eddie D'Sa
2003-02-25 10:05:02 UTC
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THE BRITAIN YOU DON'T KNOW

What do most people in India associate with Britain? Here's a guess: a royal
family - starchy queen, bumbling duke and 3 or 4 undistinguished children.
Then there is Big Ben and a warmongering PM called Tony Blair. A few Indian
millionaires & thousands of Indian restaurants. Football games & thousands
of tourists (mostly from the rougher trades) visiting Goa.
But do they know of thousands of incidents of abuse & assaults against
Indians in Britain? The Indian & Goan press (still in the throes of a
colonial hangover?) is more likely to report English football results and
the woes of British tourists in Goa than the problems of their own
compatriots in Britain.
Incidents run in the thousands - here is a small sample for the year 2000
gleaned from assorted papers, including Asian-run weeklies. Goan victims are
fewer because Goans are hardly visible - smaller population, no shopfronts,
little civic
involvement. Where are they? Probably at church or some village celebration,
at least the older lot.

RACE CASES 2000 (a small sample)
[Victims below are of Indian or Pakistani origin.]

Portsmouth (South England)
Asian student, 23, faces surgery after a savage attack by a gang of 4 thugs.
Rushed to hospital with a broken nose, fractured cheekbone and extensive
bruising.

Leicester
Football match abandoned when a gang of 15 white youths burst into the
pitch, chasing the Asian players with baseball bats, beer bottles and other
weapons during an unprovoked attack. The manager of the Asian team was
cornered in the changing room and knocked down & kicked.

Manchester
Asian cab driver waylaid by some youths and attacked. They then drove the
taxi over Tariq twice. He was left lying in a pool of blood and died later.
The following
day up to 1000 cab drivers from across east Lancashire drove around in
protest. Two years ago a cab driver was murdered in Bolton and a few months
ago another escaped being strangled.

Coventry
Two lighted petrol bombs thrown into Asian shop. Shop was saved but he
suffered burns.

South London
Asian cabdriver was carrying 3 white passengers. On the way, the front seat
passenger applies the handbrake, stops the car and all three keep punching
the driver. He was forced to hand over his change (?20) and was bundled out
of his car. The car was found abandoned and ablaze by police.

Midlands
Cab driver was dragged from his cab by his 3 passengers and beaten
unconscious. He was flung headfirst into a lamp post, kicked to the floor
and a heavy metal sign was slammed into his chest. He was rescued when
another driver pulled up to investigate.

West London
Asian man was alone in his bookshop late on Sunday night when a gang of 4 or
5 youths, boys & girls 13-16 entered. They tried to steal a football and he
tried to stop them. He was kicked and punched. He died in hospital from head
injuries a day later. He leaves a wife & 3 children. The police later caught
3 teenagers including a 15-year girl.

South Wales
A Sikh had gone for a quiet drink with a white friend. There was an exchange
with 4 white men. The Sikh & friend were knocked and punched. Mr Singh was
left bleeding on the pavement and died on his arrival at hospital.

West London
Two Asian men had pulled up at traffic lights. The driver in the adjoining
car made offensive gestures before speeding off. Later he reappeared with
friends in 2 other vehicles. They repeatedly rammed the Asian car, then 7
men armed with metal bars jumped from the convoy, battered the Asians after
given them chase near Heathrow airport. Their car was smashed.

Liverpool
An Asian TV scriptwriter was driving at night with his white fianc?e. On his
way he was forced off the road by a Ford car and was racially abused. 2 more
white men suddenly appeared. The Asian was hit in the face with a beer can
and dragged out if his car. The Ford driver grabbed his hand and started
biting it. He was kicked until almost unconscious and dragged towards the
sharp edged metal fence. They were shouting: 'Spike him - put the Paki's
head on a spike !' Meanwhile his girlfriend was being attacked by a woman
passenger (17) while still in the car. She said: 'One of the men took a
flying kick to my head.'
The couple were saved when a police car arrived at the scene. Sunil was
treated foe broken nose ans cheekbone. His right eye was damaged and he lost
several teeth.

Manchester
An Asian taxi driver was flagged down by pack of youths. One of the thugs
smashed the passenger side window, reached for the driver's side and punched
him in the face several times and took his key. They next pulled him out of
his car and 4 or 5 of them began beating him up. Then more joined in. A
fellow cab driver found him in a pool of blood. He could hardly speak and
his eye was closed. An ambulance had arrived but took away not the victim
but the attackers who were slightly injured. He took the victim in his own
taxi to the hospital. There he found the same thugs laughing and threatening
the 2 Asians. The doctor said the victim's cheekbone was broken and he might
lose an eye.

South London
An Asian man walking out of the tube station was approached by an unknown
white young man, beaten, stabbed several times and left lying in the street.
Police were
called and the man was taken to a south London hospital.
---------------------------------------------

For more incidents & details,
visit www.goa-world.net/overseas-digest/Archives 3/2000 racecases.html
Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-02-25 14:16:51 UTC
Permalink
Eddie,

I guess whatever isolated incident involving a Briton overseas, gets
a lot of press coverage in UK. Thanks for a very informative posting.

Didn't the British "invent" Football violence too? In the past, I had
read about the British riling against the Irish. Now I hear that the
Irish have prospered and employ the British! The British are still
under the illusion of 'the Sun never setting on the British empire'!
While the rest of the world has advanced in every respect, I have not
heard of Britain doing anything significant, other than suck up to the
US!!

I think the Asian community is not very cohesive on account of their
religious differences. Well, people of colour will always find it
difficult to gain acceptance in any White dominated country. The US is
a bit different with a sizeable Hispanic and Black population. Then
again, one can never say that there is no racism and especially after
9/11 things have changed quite a bit.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
From: "Eddie D'Sa" <gdigest at talk21.com>
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THE BRITAIN YOU DON'T KNOW
What do most people in India associate with Britain? Here's a guess: a
royal
<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Police were
called and the man was taken to a south London hospital.
---------------------------------------------
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Eddie D'Sa
2003-02-25 10:05:02 UTC
Permalink
THE BRITAIN YOU DON'T KNOW

What do most people in India associate with Britain? Here's a guess: a royal
family - starchy queen, bumbling duke and 3 or 4 undistinguished children.
Then there is Big Ben and a warmongering PM called Tony Blair. A few Indian
millionaires & thousands of Indian restaurants. Football games & thousands
of tourists (mostly from the rougher trades) visiting Goa.
But do they know of thousands of incidents of abuse & assaults against
Indians in Britain? The Indian & Goan press (still in the throes of a
colonial hangover?) is more likely to report English football results and
the woes of British tourists in Goa than the problems of their own
compatriots in Britain.
Incidents run in the thousands - here is a small sample for the year 2000
gleaned from assorted papers, including Asian-run weeklies. Goan victims are
fewer because Goans are hardly visible - smaller population, no shopfronts,
little civic
involvement. Where are they? Probably at church or some village celebration,
at least the older lot.

RACE CASES 2000 (a small sample)
[Victims below are of Indian or Pakistani origin.]

Portsmouth (South England)
Asian student, 23, faces surgery after a savage attack by a gang of 4 thugs.
Rushed to hospital with a broken nose, fractured cheekbone and extensive
bruising.

Leicester
Football match abandoned when a gang of 15 white youths burst into the
pitch, chasing the Asian players with baseball bats, beer bottles and other
weapons during an unprovoked attack. The manager of the Asian team was
cornered in the changing room and knocked down & kicked.

Manchester
Asian cab driver waylaid by some youths and attacked. They then drove the
taxi over Tariq twice. He was left lying in a pool of blood and died later.
The following
day up to 1000 cab drivers from across east Lancashire drove around in
protest. Two years ago a cab driver was murdered in Bolton and a few months
ago another escaped being strangled.

Coventry
Two lighted petrol bombs thrown into Asian shop. Shop was saved but he
suffered burns.

South London
Asian cabdriver was carrying 3 white passengers. On the way, the front seat
passenger applies the handbrake, stops the car and all three keep punching
the driver. He was forced to hand over his change (?20) and was bundled out
of his car. The car was found abandoned and ablaze by police.

Midlands
Cab driver was dragged from his cab by his 3 passengers and beaten
unconscious. He was flung headfirst into a lamp post, kicked to the floor
and a heavy metal sign was slammed into his chest. He was rescued when
another driver pulled up to investigate.

West London
Asian man was alone in his bookshop late on Sunday night when a gang of 4 or
5 youths, boys & girls 13-16 entered. They tried to steal a football and he
tried to stop them. He was kicked and punched. He died in hospital from head
injuries a day later. He leaves a wife & 3 children. The police later caught
3 teenagers including a 15-year girl.

South Wales
A Sikh had gone for a quiet drink with a white friend. There was an exchange
with 4 white men. The Sikh & friend were knocked and punched. Mr Singh was
left bleeding on the pavement and died on his arrival at hospital.

West London
Two Asian men had pulled up at traffic lights. The driver in the adjoining
car made offensive gestures before speeding off. Later he reappeared with
friends in 2 other vehicles. They repeatedly rammed the Asian car, then 7
men armed with metal bars jumped from the convoy, battered the Asians after
given them chase near Heathrow airport. Their car was smashed.

Liverpool
An Asian TV scriptwriter was driving at night with his white fianc?e. On his
way he was forced off the road by a Ford car and was racially abused. 2 more
white men suddenly appeared. The Asian was hit in the face with a beer can
and dragged out if his car. The Ford driver grabbed his hand and started
biting it. He was kicked until almost unconscious and dragged towards the
sharp edged metal fence. They were shouting: 'Spike him - put the Paki's
head on a spike !' Meanwhile his girlfriend was being attacked by a woman
passenger (17) while still in the car. She said: 'One of the men took a
flying kick to my head.'
The couple were saved when a police car arrived at the scene. Sunil was
treated foe broken nose ans cheekbone. His right eye was damaged and he lost
several teeth.

Manchester
An Asian taxi driver was flagged down by pack of youths. One of the thugs
smashed the passenger side window, reached for the driver's side and punched
him in the face several times and took his key. They next pulled him out of
his car and 4 or 5 of them began beating him up. Then more joined in. A
fellow cab driver found him in a pool of blood. He could hardly speak and
his eye was closed. An ambulance had arrived but took away not the victim
but the attackers who were slightly injured. He took the victim in his own
taxi to the hospital. There he found the same thugs laughing and threatening
the 2 Asians. The doctor said the victim's cheekbone was broken and he might
lose an eye.

South London
An Asian man walking out of the tube station was approached by an unknown
white young man, beaten, stabbed several times and left lying in the street.
Police were
called and the man was taken to a south London hospital.
---------------------------------------------

For more incidents & details,
visit www.goa-world.net/overseas-digest/Archives 3/2000 racecases.html
Nagesh Bhatcar
2003-02-25 14:16:51 UTC
Permalink
Eddie,

I guess whatever isolated incident involving a Briton overseas, gets
a lot of press coverage in UK. Thanks for a very informative posting.

Didn't the British "invent" Football violence too? In the past, I had
read about the British riling against the Irish. Now I hear that the
Irish have prospered and employ the British! The British are still
under the illusion of 'the Sun never setting on the British empire'!
While the rest of the world has advanced in every respect, I have not
heard of Britain doing anything significant, other than suck up to the
US!!

I think the Asian community is not very cohesive on account of their
religious differences. Well, people of colour will always find it
difficult to gain acceptance in any White dominated country. The US is
a bit different with a sizeable Hispanic and Black population. Then
again, one can never say that there is no racism and especially after
9/11 things have changed quite a bit.

Nagesh Bhatcar
sgbhatcar at hotmail.com
From: "Eddie D'Sa" <gdigest at talk21.com>
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THE BRITAIN YOU DON'T KNOW
What do most people in India associate with Britain? Here's a guess: a
royal
<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Police were
called and the man was taken to a south London hospital.
---------------------------------------------
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Eddie D'Sa
2003-02-25 10:05:02 UTC
Permalink
THE BRITAIN YOU DON'T KNOW

What do most people in India associate with Britain? Here's a guess: a royal
family - starchy queen, bumbling duke and 3 or 4 undistinguished children.
Then there is Big Ben and a warmongering PM called Tony Blair. A few Indian
millionaires & thousands of Indian restaurants. Football games & thousands
of tourists (mostly from the rougher trades) visiting Goa.
But do they know of thousands of incidents of abuse & assaults against
Indians in Britain? The Indian & Goan press (still in the throes of a
colonial hangover?) is more likely to report English football results and
the woes of British tourists in Goa than the problems of their own
compatriots in Britain.
Incidents run in the thousands - here is a small sample for the year 2000
gleaned from assorted papers, including Asian-run weeklies. Goan victims are
fewer because Goans are hardly visible - smaller population, no shopfronts,
little civic
involvement. Where are they? Probably at church or some village celebration,
at least the older lot.

RACE CASES 2000 (a small sample)
[Victims below are of Indian or Pakistani origin.]

Portsmouth (South England)
Asian student, 23, faces surgery after a savage attack by a gang of 4 thugs.
Rushed to hospital with a broken nose, fractured cheekbone and extensive
bruising.

Leicester
Football match abandoned when a gang of 15 white youths burst into the
pitch, chasing the Asian players with baseball bats, beer bottles and other
weapons during an unprovoked attack. The manager of the Asian team was
cornered in the changing room and knocked down & kicked.

Manchester
Asian cab driver waylaid by some youths and attacked. They then drove the
taxi over Tariq twice. He was left lying in a pool of blood and died later.
The