Discussion:
A380 READINESS OF WORLD AIRPORTS
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Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 05:58:02 UTC
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http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=137736

KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less

<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines. Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>

-----

And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Nasci Caldeira
2005-06-04 07:35:54 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule. All the planning and construction is done properly in advanced
countries and even in Malaysia, Singapore etc, except in India, where the
old ways still take hold!

During execution, all aircraft and airlines which suffered small delays, in
landing and take off, for being asked to 'go into a holding pattern' were
adequately compensated and all this was arranged and announced in advance. I
wonder when Indian planning and construction will be able to reach such high
levels of performance.

Too many graduates 'cramming' into their degrees, and very little practical
and field expertise??
Or Indian bureaucracy left way behind to where the Bristish had lleft them
at time of Independance??

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne, Down Under.
From: "Philip Thomas" <phlp_thms at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet]A380 READINESS OF WORLD AIRPORTS
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:34:06 +0530
KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less
<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines.
Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>
And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 10:35:55 UTC
Permalink
<This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule.>[Nasci Caldeira, June 4]

Just to disabuse folks of any thought that A380 readiness is a trivial
matter:

<A survey done by the ACI revealed that one airport needed to fork out some
US$100 million but Genottin said that on average, it would be one percent of
the cost of the airport.He cited the John F Kennedy Airport in New York
which invested 1.2 percent from its master plan of US$9.88 billion; Los
Angeles International 0.6 percent of US$8.95 billion; while San Francisco
International 0.4 percent of US$4.98 billion... He said Airbus has
[had]consultant teams dedicated *since 1994* to assist world airports [re
A380 operation]>[From link in the original post]

In my opinion A380 readiness may be beyond even our established airports
(due to paucity of traffic if anything) leave alone a johnny-come-lately
like Mopa. Let's get serious.
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 05:58:02 UTC
Permalink
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=137736

KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less

<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines. Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>

-----

And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Nasci Caldeira
2005-06-04 07:35:54 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule. All the planning and construction is done properly in advanced
countries and even in Malaysia, Singapore etc, except in India, where the
old ways still take hold!

During execution, all aircraft and airlines which suffered small delays, in
landing and take off, for being asked to 'go into a holding pattern' were
adequately compensated and all this was arranged and announced in advance. I
wonder when Indian planning and construction will be able to reach such high
levels of performance.

Too many graduates 'cramming' into their degrees, and very little practical
and field expertise??
Or Indian bureaucracy left way behind to where the Bristish had lleft them
at time of Independance??

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne, Down Under.
From: "Philip Thomas" <phlp_thms at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet]A380 READINESS OF WORLD AIRPORTS
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:34:06 +0530
KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less
<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines.
Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>
And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 10:35:55 UTC
Permalink
<This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule.>[Nasci Caldeira, June 4]

Just to disabuse folks of any thought that A380 readiness is a trivial
matter:

<A survey done by the ACI revealed that one airport needed to fork out some
US$100 million but Genottin said that on average, it would be one percent of
the cost of the airport.He cited the John F Kennedy Airport in New York
which invested 1.2 percent from its master plan of US$9.88 billion; Los
Angeles International 0.6 percent of US$8.95 billion; while San Francisco
International 0.4 percent of US$4.98 billion... He said Airbus has
[had]consultant teams dedicated *since 1994* to assist world airports [re
A380 operation]>[From link in the original post]

In my opinion A380 readiness may be beyond even our established airports
(due to paucity of traffic if anything) leave alone a johnny-come-lately
like Mopa. Let's get serious.
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 05:58:02 UTC
Permalink
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=137736

KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less

<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines. Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>

-----

And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Nasci Caldeira
2005-06-04 07:35:54 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule. All the planning and construction is done properly in advanced
countries and even in Malaysia, Singapore etc, except in India, where the
old ways still take hold!

During execution, all aircraft and airlines which suffered small delays, in
landing and take off, for being asked to 'go into a holding pattern' were
adequately compensated and all this was arranged and announced in advance. I
wonder when Indian planning and construction will be able to reach such high
levels of performance.

Too many graduates 'cramming' into their degrees, and very little practical
and field expertise??
Or Indian bureaucracy left way behind to where the Bristish had lleft them
at time of Independance??

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne, Down Under.
From: "Philip Thomas" <phlp_thms at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet]A380 READINESS OF WORLD AIRPORTS
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:34:06 +0530
KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less
<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines.
Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>
And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 10:35:55 UTC
Permalink
<This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule.>[Nasci Caldeira, June 4]

Just to disabuse folks of any thought that A380 readiness is a trivial
matter:

<A survey done by the ACI revealed that one airport needed to fork out some
US$100 million but Genottin said that on average, it would be one percent of
the cost of the airport.He cited the John F Kennedy Airport in New York
which invested 1.2 percent from its master plan of US$9.88 billion; Los
Angeles International 0.6 percent of US$8.95 billion; while San Francisco
International 0.4 percent of US$4.98 billion... He said Airbus has
[had]consultant teams dedicated *since 1994* to assist world airports [re
A380 operation]>[From link in the original post]

In my opinion A380 readiness may be beyond even our established airports
(due to paucity of traffic if anything) leave alone a johnny-come-lately
like Mopa. Let's get serious.
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 05:58:02 UTC
Permalink
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=137736

KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less

<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines. Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>

-----

And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Nasci Caldeira
2005-06-04 07:35:54 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule. All the planning and construction is done properly in advanced
countries and even in Malaysia, Singapore etc, except in India, where the
old ways still take hold!

During execution, all aircraft and airlines which suffered small delays, in
landing and take off, for being asked to 'go into a holding pattern' were
adequately compensated and all this was arranged and announced in advance. I
wonder when Indian planning and construction will be able to reach such high
levels of performance.

Too many graduates 'cramming' into their degrees, and very little practical
and field expertise??
Or Indian bureaucracy left way behind to where the Bristish had lleft them
at time of Independance??

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne, Down Under.
From: "Philip Thomas" <phlp_thms at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet]A380 READINESS OF WORLD AIRPORTS
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:34:06 +0530
KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less
<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines.
Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>
And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 10:35:55 UTC
Permalink
<This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule.>[Nasci Caldeira, June 4]

Just to disabuse folks of any thought that A380 readiness is a trivial
matter:

<A survey done by the ACI revealed that one airport needed to fork out some
US$100 million but Genottin said that on average, it would be one percent of
the cost of the airport.He cited the John F Kennedy Airport in New York
which invested 1.2 percent from its master plan of US$9.88 billion; Los
Angeles International 0.6 percent of US$8.95 billion; while San Francisco
International 0.4 percent of US$4.98 billion... He said Airbus has
[had]consultant teams dedicated *since 1994* to assist world airports [re
A380 operation]>[From link in the original post]

In my opinion A380 readiness may be beyond even our established airports
(due to paucity of traffic if anything) leave alone a johnny-come-lately
like Mopa. Let's get serious.
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 05:58:02 UTC
Permalink
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=137736

KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less

<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines. Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>

-----

And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Nasci Caldeira
2005-06-04 07:35:54 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule. All the planning and construction is done properly in advanced
countries and even in Malaysia, Singapore etc, except in India, where the
old ways still take hold!

During execution, all aircraft and airlines which suffered small delays, in
landing and take off, for being asked to 'go into a holding pattern' were
adequately compensated and all this was arranged and announced in advance. I
wonder when Indian planning and construction will be able to reach such high
levels of performance.

Too many graduates 'cramming' into their degrees, and very little practical
and field expertise??
Or Indian bureaucracy left way behind to where the Bristish had lleft them
at time of Independance??

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne, Down Under.
From: "Philip Thomas" <phlp_thms at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet]A380 READINESS OF WORLD AIRPORTS
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:34:06 +0530
KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less
<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines.
Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>
And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 10:35:55 UTC
Permalink
<This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule.>[Nasci Caldeira, June 4]

Just to disabuse folks of any thought that A380 readiness is a trivial
matter:

<A survey done by the ACI revealed that one airport needed to fork out some
US$100 million but Genottin said that on average, it would be one percent of
the cost of the airport.He cited the John F Kennedy Airport in New York
which invested 1.2 percent from its master plan of US$9.88 billion; Los
Angeles International 0.6 percent of US$8.95 billion; while San Francisco
International 0.4 percent of US$4.98 billion... He said Airbus has
[had]consultant teams dedicated *since 1994* to assist world airports [re
A380 operation]>[From link in the original post]

In my opinion A380 readiness may be beyond even our established airports
(due to paucity of traffic if anything) leave alone a johnny-come-lately
like Mopa. Let's get serious.
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 05:58:02 UTC
Permalink
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=137736

KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less

<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines. Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>

-----

And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Nasci Caldeira
2005-06-04 07:35:54 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule. All the planning and construction is done properly in advanced
countries and even in Malaysia, Singapore etc, except in India, where the
old ways still take hold!

During execution, all aircraft and airlines which suffered small delays, in
landing and take off, for being asked to 'go into a holding pattern' were
adequately compensated and all this was arranged and announced in advance. I
wonder when Indian planning and construction will be able to reach such high
levels of performance.

Too many graduates 'cramming' into their degrees, and very little practical
and field expertise??
Or Indian bureaucracy left way behind to where the Bristish had lleft them
at time of Independance??

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne, Down Under.
From: "Philip Thomas" <phlp_thms at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet]A380 READINESS OF WORLD AIRPORTS
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:34:06 +0530
KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less
<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines.
Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>
And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 10:35:55 UTC
Permalink
<This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule.>[Nasci Caldeira, June 4]

Just to disabuse folks of any thought that A380 readiness is a trivial
matter:

<A survey done by the ACI revealed that one airport needed to fork out some
US$100 million but Genottin said that on average, it would be one percent of
the cost of the airport.He cited the John F Kennedy Airport in New York
which invested 1.2 percent from its master plan of US$9.88 billion; Los
Angeles International 0.6 percent of US$8.95 billion; while San Francisco
International 0.4 percent of US$4.98 billion... He said Airbus has
[had]consultant teams dedicated *since 1994* to assist world airports [re
A380 operation]>[From link in the original post]

In my opinion A380 readiness may be beyond even our established airports
(due to paucity of traffic if anything) leave alone a johnny-come-lately
like Mopa. Let's get serious.
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 05:58:02 UTC
Permalink
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=137736

KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less

<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines. Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>

-----

And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Nasci Caldeira
2005-06-04 07:35:54 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule. All the planning and construction is done properly in advanced
countries and even in Malaysia, Singapore etc, except in India, where the
old ways still take hold!

During execution, all aircraft and airlines which suffered small delays, in
landing and take off, for being asked to 'go into a holding pattern' were
adequately compensated and all this was arranged and announced in advance. I
wonder when Indian planning and construction will be able to reach such high
levels of performance.

Too many graduates 'cramming' into their degrees, and very little practical
and field expertise??
Or Indian bureaucracy left way behind to where the Bristish had lleft them
at time of Independance??

Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne, Down Under.
From: "Philip Thomas" <phlp_thms at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Goanet]A380 READINESS OF WORLD AIRPORTS
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:34:06 +0530
KLIA's Upgrading Costs For A380 To Be Very Much Less
<On the readiness of the world's airports to have the A380 in their
operations, he said many were ready to handle the A380 today. Airbus is
expecting 63 airports to see the aircraft by 2010, 42 by 2008 and 21 by
2006.
He said the readiness was driven mainly by demand by world airlines.
Looking
closely where the B747 really flies, Genottin said 80 percent of all its
movements were concentrated into just 37 airports from the total 183
airports in the world. All of these 37 airports and more were either now
ready, preparing or planning for A380 operations, he said.>
And then there's Mopa in Goa! (But only after 2014!)
Philip Thomas
2005-06-04 10:35:55 UTC
Permalink
<This job of getting 'A380' readiness, was planned and executed, recently at
the Tullamarine Airport, in Melbourne. The Planning was done thoroughly, and
then execution was announced, and the work which was scheduled to be
completed, in six weeks, was actually completed 10 days ahead of the
schedule.>[Nasci Caldeira, June 4]

Just to disabuse folks of any thought that A380 readiness is a trivial
matter:

<A survey done by the ACI revealed that one airport needed to fork out some
US$100 million but Genottin said that on average, it would be one percent of
the cost of the airport.He cited the John F Kennedy Airport in New York
which invested 1.2 percent from its master plan of US$9.88 billion; Los
Angeles International 0.6 percent of US$8.95 billion; while San Francisco
International 0.4 percent of US$4.98 billion... He said Airbus has
[had]consultant teams dedicated *since 1994* to assist world airports [re
A380 operation]>[From link in the original post]

In my opinion A380 readiness may be beyond even our established airports
(due to paucity of traffic if anything) leave alone a johnny-come-lately
like Mopa. Let's get serious.

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