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GT 'Debate' Soddun Konn Pollon Ghelo? Hanv vo Borges bab?
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GT ?DEBATE? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa. Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE? soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

Amchea Borges babak ek duens asa. Hem duens mhunttlear zor konn Dalgado
Konknni Akademy (DKA) Romi lipicher onit zalea tacher zhuzpak rochlea
mhunttlear taka to ?Lipirog? rokddoch zata. Goychea Rajbhas kaideak
lagon Romi lipintle Konknnicher onit kelea mhunttlear Borges baba bhitor
to ?Lipirog? rokddoch ustota. Ani oxench GT hea Inglez potracher ghoddlem.

Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !

From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17) one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists. As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy
Sebastian Borges
2010-05-22 11:24:57 UTC
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Ixttamno,
Tomazinhobab mhonntta, <<Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE soddun pollon ghelo.>>..........<<Nnovi fott! Tannem tor mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.>>

Tumche modlea khubxea zonnamni hatuntlem khotteponn parkhilam astolench, kiteak hi 'Debate' (ektorfi cheorchea) kaim mhoine Goanet-ar Inglixintlean chol'loli.? Mhoje sogle 'reminders' hanga uzvaddak ailole; Tomazinho babachi zag nasli! Itlench nhoi tor Alfred chachak (Alfred de Tavares) hacho vaz ailo ani tannem GT uzvaddaina zalear hanvem mhoje reminders "Heraldak" dhaddpacho sol'lo dilolo; to-i zalear kovitentlean. Ani hanvem taka 'kovitentleanuch' zap dil'li. Titlean to thread somplolo.

GT disallean mhojeo zaiteo chitti uzvaddaileo nant, hem khorem.? Ani tachoch Tomazinhobab faido kaddunk sodta zait. Punn tache "Goodnight" chitti uprant mhojeo don tori chitti GT potrar uzvadda aileat: Walter Menezes ani Jose Salvador Fernandes hankam teach vixoyacher mhojeo zapo.? 'Debate' korche khatir koslim paulam ubarum-ia tem legun suchoun dhaddloli mhoji chitt Goanet-ar uzvadda ailea. Ani magir "reminders'. Ani atam sangta mhoji zag nasli mhunn. Edem vhoddlem lobaddponn?! Loz mhonnloli vost hea sonvsarant asa kai?

Anik tumcho vell vhogddauncho nhoi mhunn tea 'debate' prosongachi sogli mahiti hangach thoddkeant, Goanet-achich sakxi diun, ditam. Survat zali ti Tomazinho babachea Prabhakarbab Tendulkar hancher boroilolea lekhavelean. Tatuntlea eka vakyak horkot gheun hanvem "Dissemination of ignorance" hem potr boroilem. Tem hanga vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-June/178676.html
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Hanvem Tomazinho babachem apovnnem svikar kelem, itlench nhoi tor te khatir "procedure' legun suchoilem. Tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180400.html
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Ugddas potr dhaddlem tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183178.html

.......................
Alfred de Tavares hanchi suchovnni:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183310.html
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Alfred Chacha-k mhoji zap:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183401.html
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Hanga sokol Tomazinho baban Dalgado Konknni Akademi-cher Novembr 2004-nt boroilolo lekh polloyat. Tatuntlem poilench vak'ya "DKA 1988-nt sthaploli" mhunn sangta. Tor don tin vorsam modinch Tomazinho bab hem visorlo ani "DKA was established in 1989" oxem porporot mhonnonk laglo? Hem koxem zaum-ieta? Fuddem "Aims and Objectives" vachat. Tatunt "to fight against the injustice done to Romi Konknni, oxem suchovpi kitem tori asa? "Prgramme for 2005" hatunt punn he vixim koslich tozvit asa? Polleyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2004-November/107341.html
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Fr. Pratap Naik hannim "Romi Lipyecho Itihas" mhunn ek lekh boroilolo tatunt DKA-choi itihas aspavta; konn kedna Sekretar aslo hachi mahiti hanga asa. Tor vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-September/119864.html

Hatunt tumkam hem fuddlem vachunk melltta. Zalear DKA-cho poilo Sekretar konn? Ani Jun 2004 porian kitle Sekretar asle? Ani konn konn? Zalear Tomazinhobab survatek savn Sekretar aslo mhonnlem zalear kitem chukta? Sekretar (28-8-1988 - 19-6-2004) mhunn zutti somptanch, Convener zal'lo, hachi nond gheyat.

1987:
4th February Goa Assembly passed the Language bill. Thus Konkani written in
Devanagari script became the State language of Goa.

14th March TSKK called a meeting of Konkani writers in Roman script at
Jesuit House, Panaji to discuss how to introduce Devanagari script for
writing Konkani. During this meeting a few important leaders of Konknni
Porjecho Avaz (KPA) and writers expressed their dissatisfaction regarding
the Language Act 1987. Since then TSKK began to find out from various
people the reason for dissatisfaction. TSKK realized to foster Konkani in
Goa Devanagari and Roman script are essential. Therefore TSKK took the lead
and contacted Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo and discussed
the course of action and decided to call a meeting of Roman script writers,
readers and well-wishers.

1988:
17th July a seminar of Roman script Konkani writers was called at Instituto
de Piedade, Panaji. During the seminar Fr. Pratap Naik, S.J. of Thomas
Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) proposed to Roman script writers and readers
the idea of establishing Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA) to promote Konkani in
Roman script and submitted a master plan for Konkani in Roman script and
proposed to start.

28th August a seminar was held at Loyola High School. Marg?o. Here Fr.
Pratap Naik once again stressed the need of starting DKA. Participants
accepted his suggestion and DKA was established. Fr. Pratap Naik made it
clear to the members that he will not accept any office of DKA. Hence an ad
hoc managing committee was elected. Fr. Freddy J. da Costa was chosen as
the president, Mr. Agnelo Pires as the Vice-President, Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo
as secretary. Mr. Thomas C. Fernandes as Jt. Secretary, Mr. Prabhakar
Tendulkar as the treasurer. Mr. Zito Almeida and Fr. Eusebio Ferr?o as
members and Fr. Pratap Naik was nominated as the advisor. Fr. Pratap was
enrolled as the first member of DKA.

DKA appointed a special committee headed by Fr. Matthew Almeida,s.j. to
prepare Konkani orthography in Roman script. It was published by DKA.

1989:
2 July DKA General Council elected new Managing Committee. President:Fr.
Antimo Gomes, Vice-President:Fr. Planton Faria, Secretary:Tomazinho Cardozo,
Joint Secretary: Mr. Vincy Quadros, Members:Cajetan Vaz, Mrs. Berta Menezes
and Mr. Tarkeshwar Naik.

1990-2004:
June 1990 to 23 March DKA remained dormant due to various reasons. Meanwhile
TSKK persuaded the office bearers either to revive DKA or if it is not
possible to close it down.

1992:
20th August through an amendment to the Constitution of India Konkani was
included in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution.

2004:
25th March Fr. Pratap Naik took the initiative to revive the DKA. He
discussed this matter with Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo.
Subsequently two times Fr. Freddy, Mr. Tomazinho and Mr. Prabhakar Tendulkar
and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j. met at Gulab office at Panaji to discuss the
matter of Roman script and DKA.

12th May Romi writers and readers were invited at T.B.Cunha Hall to discuss
the matter related to Roman script. It was officially decided once again to
revive DKA. Fr. Freddy was chosen as the convener. Secretary and treasurer
remained the same as before. Wilmix Mazarello, Cipriano Lopes, Cosma
Fernandes, Dr. Olivinho Gomes, Jose S. Fernandes, Fr. Peter Raposo, Fr. Ave
Maria Afonso, Wilfred Menezes, Willy Goes, Andrew and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j.
were nominated as members of the ad hoc managing committee.

17th May Fr. Freddy died.

19th June Mr. Tomazinho was chosen as the convener to lead DKA.

...........

Aiz te 'debate'-ik orth urunk na karonn Tomazinho baban ek sot manun ghetlam: DKA-chi stapnnuk 1988 vorsa zal'li, mhonnje "DKA was established in 1988, not in 1989." Hem sot tache kodden kobul korun ghevpak mhaka tin voir vorsam laglim. Punn

Sotachench zoit zatolem.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges

On 19 May 2010 tomazinho cardozo <tomazinho.goa at gmail.com> wrote:
GT ?DEBATE?? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO?? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa.? Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem? ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE????soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

......
Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !
Post by tomazinho cardozo
From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17)? one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel? to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his? questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists.? As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
? Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy



Sebastian Borges
tomazinho cardozo
2010-05-19 11:10:16 UTC
Permalink
GT ?DEBATE? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa. Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE? soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

Amchea Borges babak ek duens asa. Hem duens mhunttlear zor konn Dalgado
Konknni Akademy (DKA) Romi lipicher onit zalea tacher zhuzpak rochlea
mhunttlear taka to ?Lipirog? rokddoch zata. Goychea Rajbhas kaideak
lagon Romi lipintle Konknnicher onit kelea mhunttlear Borges baba bhitor
to ?Lipirog? rokddoch ustota. Ani oxench GT hea Inglez potracher ghoddlem.

Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !

From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17) one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists. As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy
Sebastian Borges
2010-05-22 11:24:57 UTC
Permalink
Ixttamno,
Tomazinhobab mhonntta, <<Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE soddun pollon ghelo.>>..........<<Nnovi fott! Tannem tor mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.>>

Tumche modlea khubxea zonnamni hatuntlem khotteponn parkhilam astolench, kiteak hi 'Debate' (ektorfi cheorchea) kaim mhoine Goanet-ar Inglixintlean chol'loli.? Mhoje sogle 'reminders' hanga uzvaddak ailole; Tomazinho babachi zag nasli! Itlench nhoi tor Alfred chachak (Alfred de Tavares) hacho vaz ailo ani tannem GT uzvaddaina zalear hanvem mhoje reminders "Heraldak" dhaddpacho sol'lo dilolo; to-i zalear kovitentlean. Ani hanvem taka 'kovitentleanuch' zap dil'li. Titlean to thread somplolo.

GT disallean mhojeo zaiteo chitti uzvaddaileo nant, hem khorem.? Ani tachoch Tomazinhobab faido kaddunk sodta zait. Punn tache "Goodnight" chitti uprant mhojeo don tori chitti GT potrar uzvadda aileat: Walter Menezes ani Jose Salvador Fernandes hankam teach vixoyacher mhojeo zapo.? 'Debate' korche khatir koslim paulam ubarum-ia tem legun suchoun dhaddloli mhoji chitt Goanet-ar uzvadda ailea. Ani magir "reminders'. Ani atam sangta mhoji zag nasli mhunn. Edem vhoddlem lobaddponn?! Loz mhonnloli vost hea sonvsarant asa kai?

Anik tumcho vell vhogddauncho nhoi mhunn tea 'debate' prosongachi sogli mahiti hangach thoddkeant, Goanet-achich sakxi diun, ditam. Survat zali ti Tomazinho babachea Prabhakarbab Tendulkar hancher boroilolea lekhavelean. Tatuntlea eka vakyak horkot gheun hanvem "Dissemination of ignorance" hem potr boroilem. Tem hanga vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-June/178676.html
.................
Hanvem Tomazinho babachem apovnnem svikar kelem, itlench nhoi tor te khatir "procedure' legun suchoilem. Tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180400.html
.....................
Ugddas potr dhaddlem tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183178.html

.......................
Alfred de Tavares hanchi suchovnni:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183310.html
..................
Alfred Chacha-k mhoji zap:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183401.html
..........
Hanga sokol Tomazinho baban Dalgado Konknni Akademi-cher Novembr 2004-nt boroilolo lekh polloyat. Tatuntlem poilench vak'ya "DKA 1988-nt sthaploli" mhunn sangta. Tor don tin vorsam modinch Tomazinho bab hem visorlo ani "DKA was established in 1989" oxem porporot mhonnonk laglo? Hem koxem zaum-ieta? Fuddem "Aims and Objectives" vachat. Tatunt "to fight against the injustice done to Romi Konknni, oxem suchovpi kitem tori asa? "Prgramme for 2005" hatunt punn he vixim koslich tozvit asa? Polleyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2004-November/107341.html
.........
Fr. Pratap Naik hannim "Romi Lipyecho Itihas" mhunn ek lekh boroilolo tatunt DKA-choi itihas aspavta; konn kedna Sekretar aslo hachi mahiti hanga asa. Tor vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-September/119864.html

Hatunt tumkam hem fuddlem vachunk melltta. Zalear DKA-cho poilo Sekretar konn? Ani Jun 2004 porian kitle Sekretar asle? Ani konn konn? Zalear Tomazinhobab survatek savn Sekretar aslo mhonnlem zalear kitem chukta? Sekretar (28-8-1988 - 19-6-2004) mhunn zutti somptanch, Convener zal'lo, hachi nond gheyat.

1987:
4th February Goa Assembly passed the Language bill. Thus Konkani written in
Devanagari script became the State language of Goa.

14th March TSKK called a meeting of Konkani writers in Roman script at
Jesuit House, Panaji to discuss how to introduce Devanagari script for
writing Konkani. During this meeting a few important leaders of Konknni
Porjecho Avaz (KPA) and writers expressed their dissatisfaction regarding
the Language Act 1987. Since then TSKK began to find out from various
people the reason for dissatisfaction. TSKK realized to foster Konkani in
Goa Devanagari and Roman script are essential. Therefore TSKK took the lead
and contacted Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo and discussed
the course of action and decided to call a meeting of Roman script writers,
readers and well-wishers.

1988:
17th July a seminar of Roman script Konkani writers was called at Instituto
de Piedade, Panaji. During the seminar Fr. Pratap Naik, S.J. of Thomas
Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) proposed to Roman script writers and readers
the idea of establishing Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA) to promote Konkani in
Roman script and submitted a master plan for Konkani in Roman script and
proposed to start.

28th August a seminar was held at Loyola High School. Marg?o. Here Fr.
Pratap Naik once again stressed the need of starting DKA. Participants
accepted his suggestion and DKA was established. Fr. Pratap Naik made it
clear to the members that he will not accept any office of DKA. Hence an ad
hoc managing committee was elected. Fr. Freddy J. da Costa was chosen as
the president, Mr. Agnelo Pires as the Vice-President, Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo
as secretary. Mr. Thomas C. Fernandes as Jt. Secretary, Mr. Prabhakar
Tendulkar as the treasurer. Mr. Zito Almeida and Fr. Eusebio Ferr?o as
members and Fr. Pratap Naik was nominated as the advisor. Fr. Pratap was
enrolled as the first member of DKA.

DKA appointed a special committee headed by Fr. Matthew Almeida,s.j. to
prepare Konkani orthography in Roman script. It was published by DKA.

1989:
2 July DKA General Council elected new Managing Committee. President:Fr.
Antimo Gomes, Vice-President:Fr. Planton Faria, Secretary:Tomazinho Cardozo,
Joint Secretary: Mr. Vincy Quadros, Members:Cajetan Vaz, Mrs. Berta Menezes
and Mr. Tarkeshwar Naik.

1990-2004:
June 1990 to 23 March DKA remained dormant due to various reasons. Meanwhile
TSKK persuaded the office bearers either to revive DKA or if it is not
possible to close it down.

1992:
20th August through an amendment to the Constitution of India Konkani was
included in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution.

2004:
25th March Fr. Pratap Naik took the initiative to revive the DKA. He
discussed this matter with Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo.
Subsequently two times Fr. Freddy, Mr. Tomazinho and Mr. Prabhakar Tendulkar
and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j. met at Gulab office at Panaji to discuss the
matter of Roman script and DKA.

12th May Romi writers and readers were invited at T.B.Cunha Hall to discuss
the matter related to Roman script. It was officially decided once again to
revive DKA. Fr. Freddy was chosen as the convener. Secretary and treasurer
remained the same as before. Wilmix Mazarello, Cipriano Lopes, Cosma
Fernandes, Dr. Olivinho Gomes, Jose S. Fernandes, Fr. Peter Raposo, Fr. Ave
Maria Afonso, Wilfred Menezes, Willy Goes, Andrew and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j.
were nominated as members of the ad hoc managing committee.

17th May Fr. Freddy died.

19th June Mr. Tomazinho was chosen as the convener to lead DKA.

...........

Aiz te 'debate'-ik orth urunk na karonn Tomazinho baban ek sot manun ghetlam: DKA-chi stapnnuk 1988 vorsa zal'li, mhonnje "DKA was established in 1988, not in 1989." Hem sot tache kodden kobul korun ghevpak mhaka tin voir vorsam laglim. Punn

Sotachench zoit zatolem.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges

On 19 May 2010 tomazinho cardozo <tomazinho.goa at gmail.com> wrote:
GT ?DEBATE?? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO?? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa.? Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem? ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE????soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

......
Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !
Post by tomazinho cardozo
From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17)? one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel? to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his? questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists.? As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
? Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy



Sebastian Borges
tomazinho cardozo
2010-05-19 11:10:16 UTC
Permalink
GT ?DEBATE? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa. Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE? soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

Amchea Borges babak ek duens asa. Hem duens mhunttlear zor konn Dalgado
Konknni Akademy (DKA) Romi lipicher onit zalea tacher zhuzpak rochlea
mhunttlear taka to ?Lipirog? rokddoch zata. Goychea Rajbhas kaideak
lagon Romi lipintle Konknnicher onit kelea mhunttlear Borges baba bhitor
to ?Lipirog? rokddoch ustota. Ani oxench GT hea Inglez potracher ghoddlem.

Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !

From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17) one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists. As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy
Sebastian Borges
2010-05-22 11:24:57 UTC
Permalink
Ixttamno,
Tomazinhobab mhonntta, <<Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE soddun pollon ghelo.>>..........<<Nnovi fott! Tannem tor mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.>>

Tumche modlea khubxea zonnamni hatuntlem khotteponn parkhilam astolench, kiteak hi 'Debate' (ektorfi cheorchea) kaim mhoine Goanet-ar Inglixintlean chol'loli.? Mhoje sogle 'reminders' hanga uzvaddak ailole; Tomazinho babachi zag nasli! Itlench nhoi tor Alfred chachak (Alfred de Tavares) hacho vaz ailo ani tannem GT uzvaddaina zalear hanvem mhoje reminders "Heraldak" dhaddpacho sol'lo dilolo; to-i zalear kovitentlean. Ani hanvem taka 'kovitentleanuch' zap dil'li. Titlean to thread somplolo.

GT disallean mhojeo zaiteo chitti uzvaddaileo nant, hem khorem.? Ani tachoch Tomazinhobab faido kaddunk sodta zait. Punn tache "Goodnight" chitti uprant mhojeo don tori chitti GT potrar uzvadda aileat: Walter Menezes ani Jose Salvador Fernandes hankam teach vixoyacher mhojeo zapo.? 'Debate' korche khatir koslim paulam ubarum-ia tem legun suchoun dhaddloli mhoji chitt Goanet-ar uzvadda ailea. Ani magir "reminders'. Ani atam sangta mhoji zag nasli mhunn. Edem vhoddlem lobaddponn?! Loz mhonnloli vost hea sonvsarant asa kai?

Anik tumcho vell vhogddauncho nhoi mhunn tea 'debate' prosongachi sogli mahiti hangach thoddkeant, Goanet-achich sakxi diun, ditam. Survat zali ti Tomazinho babachea Prabhakarbab Tendulkar hancher boroilolea lekhavelean. Tatuntlea eka vakyak horkot gheun hanvem "Dissemination of ignorance" hem potr boroilem. Tem hanga vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-June/178676.html
.................
Hanvem Tomazinho babachem apovnnem svikar kelem, itlench nhoi tor te khatir "procedure' legun suchoilem. Tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180400.html
.....................
Ugddas potr dhaddlem tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183178.html

.......................
Alfred de Tavares hanchi suchovnni:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183310.html
..................
Alfred Chacha-k mhoji zap:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183401.html
..........
Hanga sokol Tomazinho baban Dalgado Konknni Akademi-cher Novembr 2004-nt boroilolo lekh polloyat. Tatuntlem poilench vak'ya "DKA 1988-nt sthaploli" mhunn sangta. Tor don tin vorsam modinch Tomazinho bab hem visorlo ani "DKA was established in 1989" oxem porporot mhonnonk laglo? Hem koxem zaum-ieta? Fuddem "Aims and Objectives" vachat. Tatunt "to fight against the injustice done to Romi Konknni, oxem suchovpi kitem tori asa? "Prgramme for 2005" hatunt punn he vixim koslich tozvit asa? Polleyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2004-November/107341.html
.........
Fr. Pratap Naik hannim "Romi Lipyecho Itihas" mhunn ek lekh boroilolo tatunt DKA-choi itihas aspavta; konn kedna Sekretar aslo hachi mahiti hanga asa. Tor vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-September/119864.html

Hatunt tumkam hem fuddlem vachunk melltta. Zalear DKA-cho poilo Sekretar konn? Ani Jun 2004 porian kitle Sekretar asle? Ani konn konn? Zalear Tomazinhobab survatek savn Sekretar aslo mhonnlem zalear kitem chukta? Sekretar (28-8-1988 - 19-6-2004) mhunn zutti somptanch, Convener zal'lo, hachi nond gheyat.

1987:
4th February Goa Assembly passed the Language bill. Thus Konkani written in
Devanagari script became the State language of Goa.

14th March TSKK called a meeting of Konkani writers in Roman script at
Jesuit House, Panaji to discuss how to introduce Devanagari script for
writing Konkani. During this meeting a few important leaders of Konknni
Porjecho Avaz (KPA) and writers expressed their dissatisfaction regarding
the Language Act 1987. Since then TSKK began to find out from various
people the reason for dissatisfaction. TSKK realized to foster Konkani in
Goa Devanagari and Roman script are essential. Therefore TSKK took the lead
and contacted Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo and discussed
the course of action and decided to call a meeting of Roman script writers,
readers and well-wishers.

1988:
17th July a seminar of Roman script Konkani writers was called at Instituto
de Piedade, Panaji. During the seminar Fr. Pratap Naik, S.J. of Thomas
Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) proposed to Roman script writers and readers
the idea of establishing Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA) to promote Konkani in
Roman script and submitted a master plan for Konkani in Roman script and
proposed to start.

28th August a seminar was held at Loyola High School. Marg?o. Here Fr.
Pratap Naik once again stressed the need of starting DKA. Participants
accepted his suggestion and DKA was established. Fr. Pratap Naik made it
clear to the members that he will not accept any office of DKA. Hence an ad
hoc managing committee was elected. Fr. Freddy J. da Costa was chosen as
the president, Mr. Agnelo Pires as the Vice-President, Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo
as secretary. Mr. Thomas C. Fernandes as Jt. Secretary, Mr. Prabhakar
Tendulkar as the treasurer. Mr. Zito Almeida and Fr. Eusebio Ferr?o as
members and Fr. Pratap Naik was nominated as the advisor. Fr. Pratap was
enrolled as the first member of DKA.

DKA appointed a special committee headed by Fr. Matthew Almeida,s.j. to
prepare Konkani orthography in Roman script. It was published by DKA.

1989:
2 July DKA General Council elected new Managing Committee. President:Fr.
Antimo Gomes, Vice-President:Fr. Planton Faria, Secretary:Tomazinho Cardozo,
Joint Secretary: Mr. Vincy Quadros, Members:Cajetan Vaz, Mrs. Berta Menezes
and Mr. Tarkeshwar Naik.

1990-2004:
June 1990 to 23 March DKA remained dormant due to various reasons. Meanwhile
TSKK persuaded the office bearers either to revive DKA or if it is not
possible to close it down.

1992:
20th August through an amendment to the Constitution of India Konkani was
included in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution.

2004:
25th March Fr. Pratap Naik took the initiative to revive the DKA. He
discussed this matter with Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo.
Subsequently two times Fr. Freddy, Mr. Tomazinho and Mr. Prabhakar Tendulkar
and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j. met at Gulab office at Panaji to discuss the
matter of Roman script and DKA.

12th May Romi writers and readers were invited at T.B.Cunha Hall to discuss
the matter related to Roman script. It was officially decided once again to
revive DKA. Fr. Freddy was chosen as the convener. Secretary and treasurer
remained the same as before. Wilmix Mazarello, Cipriano Lopes, Cosma
Fernandes, Dr. Olivinho Gomes, Jose S. Fernandes, Fr. Peter Raposo, Fr. Ave
Maria Afonso, Wilfred Menezes, Willy Goes, Andrew and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j.
were nominated as members of the ad hoc managing committee.

17th May Fr. Freddy died.

19th June Mr. Tomazinho was chosen as the convener to lead DKA.

...........

Aiz te 'debate'-ik orth urunk na karonn Tomazinho baban ek sot manun ghetlam: DKA-chi stapnnuk 1988 vorsa zal'li, mhonnje "DKA was established in 1988, not in 1989." Hem sot tache kodden kobul korun ghevpak mhaka tin voir vorsam laglim. Punn

Sotachench zoit zatolem.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges

On 19 May 2010 tomazinho cardozo <tomazinho.goa at gmail.com> wrote:
GT ?DEBATE?? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO?? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa.? Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem? ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE????soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

......
Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !
Post by tomazinho cardozo
From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17)? one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel? to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his? questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists.? As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
? Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy



Sebastian Borges
tomazinho cardozo
2010-05-19 11:10:16 UTC
Permalink
GT ?DEBATE? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa. Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE? soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

Amchea Borges babak ek duens asa. Hem duens mhunttlear zor konn Dalgado
Konknni Akademy (DKA) Romi lipicher onit zalea tacher zhuzpak rochlea
mhunttlear taka to ?Lipirog? rokddoch zata. Goychea Rajbhas kaideak
lagon Romi lipintle Konknnicher onit kelea mhunttlear Borges baba bhitor
to ?Lipirog? rokddoch ustota. Ani oxench GT hea Inglez potracher ghoddlem.

Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !

From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17) one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists. As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy
Sebastian Borges
2010-05-22 11:24:57 UTC
Permalink
Ixttamno,
Tomazinhobab mhonntta, <<Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE soddun pollon ghelo.>>..........<<Nnovi fott! Tannem tor mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.>>

Tumche modlea khubxea zonnamni hatuntlem khotteponn parkhilam astolench, kiteak hi 'Debate' (ektorfi cheorchea) kaim mhoine Goanet-ar Inglixintlean chol'loli.? Mhoje sogle 'reminders' hanga uzvaddak ailole; Tomazinho babachi zag nasli! Itlench nhoi tor Alfred chachak (Alfred de Tavares) hacho vaz ailo ani tannem GT uzvaddaina zalear hanvem mhoje reminders "Heraldak" dhaddpacho sol'lo dilolo; to-i zalear kovitentlean. Ani hanvem taka 'kovitentleanuch' zap dil'li. Titlean to thread somplolo.

GT disallean mhojeo zaiteo chitti uzvaddaileo nant, hem khorem.? Ani tachoch Tomazinhobab faido kaddunk sodta zait. Punn tache "Goodnight" chitti uprant mhojeo don tori chitti GT potrar uzvadda aileat: Walter Menezes ani Jose Salvador Fernandes hankam teach vixoyacher mhojeo zapo.? 'Debate' korche khatir koslim paulam ubarum-ia tem legun suchoun dhaddloli mhoji chitt Goanet-ar uzvadda ailea. Ani magir "reminders'. Ani atam sangta mhoji zag nasli mhunn. Edem vhoddlem lobaddponn?! Loz mhonnloli vost hea sonvsarant asa kai?

Anik tumcho vell vhogddauncho nhoi mhunn tea 'debate' prosongachi sogli mahiti hangach thoddkeant, Goanet-achich sakxi diun, ditam. Survat zali ti Tomazinho babachea Prabhakarbab Tendulkar hancher boroilolea lekhavelean. Tatuntlea eka vakyak horkot gheun hanvem "Dissemination of ignorance" hem potr boroilem. Tem hanga vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-June/178676.html
.................
Hanvem Tomazinho babachem apovnnem svikar kelem, itlench nhoi tor te khatir "procedure' legun suchoilem. Tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180400.html
.....................
Ugddas potr dhaddlem tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183178.html

.......................
Alfred de Tavares hanchi suchovnni:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183310.html
..................
Alfred Chacha-k mhoji zap:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183401.html
..........
Hanga sokol Tomazinho baban Dalgado Konknni Akademi-cher Novembr 2004-nt boroilolo lekh polloyat. Tatuntlem poilench vak'ya "DKA 1988-nt sthaploli" mhunn sangta. Tor don tin vorsam modinch Tomazinho bab hem visorlo ani "DKA was established in 1989" oxem porporot mhonnonk laglo? Hem koxem zaum-ieta? Fuddem "Aims and Objectives" vachat. Tatunt "to fight against the injustice done to Romi Konknni, oxem suchovpi kitem tori asa? "Prgramme for 2005" hatunt punn he vixim koslich tozvit asa? Polleyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2004-November/107341.html
.........
Fr. Pratap Naik hannim "Romi Lipyecho Itihas" mhunn ek lekh boroilolo tatunt DKA-choi itihas aspavta; konn kedna Sekretar aslo hachi mahiti hanga asa. Tor vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-September/119864.html

Hatunt tumkam hem fuddlem vachunk melltta. Zalear DKA-cho poilo Sekretar konn? Ani Jun 2004 porian kitle Sekretar asle? Ani konn konn? Zalear Tomazinhobab survatek savn Sekretar aslo mhonnlem zalear kitem chukta? Sekretar (28-8-1988 - 19-6-2004) mhunn zutti somptanch, Convener zal'lo, hachi nond gheyat.

1987:
4th February Goa Assembly passed the Language bill. Thus Konkani written in
Devanagari script became the State language of Goa.

14th March TSKK called a meeting of Konkani writers in Roman script at
Jesuit House, Panaji to discuss how to introduce Devanagari script for
writing Konkani. During this meeting a few important leaders of Konknni
Porjecho Avaz (KPA) and writers expressed their dissatisfaction regarding
the Language Act 1987. Since then TSKK began to find out from various
people the reason for dissatisfaction. TSKK realized to foster Konkani in
Goa Devanagari and Roman script are essential. Therefore TSKK took the lead
and contacted Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo and discussed
the course of action and decided to call a meeting of Roman script writers,
readers and well-wishers.

1988:
17th July a seminar of Roman script Konkani writers was called at Instituto
de Piedade, Panaji. During the seminar Fr. Pratap Naik, S.J. of Thomas
Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) proposed to Roman script writers and readers
the idea of establishing Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA) to promote Konkani in
Roman script and submitted a master plan for Konkani in Roman script and
proposed to start.

28th August a seminar was held at Loyola High School. Marg?o. Here Fr.
Pratap Naik once again stressed the need of starting DKA. Participants
accepted his suggestion and DKA was established. Fr. Pratap Naik made it
clear to the members that he will not accept any office of DKA. Hence an ad
hoc managing committee was elected. Fr. Freddy J. da Costa was chosen as
the president, Mr. Agnelo Pires as the Vice-President, Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo
as secretary. Mr. Thomas C. Fernandes as Jt. Secretary, Mr. Prabhakar
Tendulkar as the treasurer. Mr. Zito Almeida and Fr. Eusebio Ferr?o as
members and Fr. Pratap Naik was nominated as the advisor. Fr. Pratap was
enrolled as the first member of DKA.

DKA appointed a special committee headed by Fr. Matthew Almeida,s.j. to
prepare Konkani orthography in Roman script. It was published by DKA.

1989:
2 July DKA General Council elected new Managing Committee. President:Fr.
Antimo Gomes, Vice-President:Fr. Planton Faria, Secretary:Tomazinho Cardozo,
Joint Secretary: Mr. Vincy Quadros, Members:Cajetan Vaz, Mrs. Berta Menezes
and Mr. Tarkeshwar Naik.

1990-2004:
June 1990 to 23 March DKA remained dormant due to various reasons. Meanwhile
TSKK persuaded the office bearers either to revive DKA or if it is not
possible to close it down.

1992:
20th August through an amendment to the Constitution of India Konkani was
included in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution.

2004:
25th March Fr. Pratap Naik took the initiative to revive the DKA. He
discussed this matter with Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo.
Subsequently two times Fr. Freddy, Mr. Tomazinho and Mr. Prabhakar Tendulkar
and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j. met at Gulab office at Panaji to discuss the
matter of Roman script and DKA.

12th May Romi writers and readers were invited at T.B.Cunha Hall to discuss
the matter related to Roman script. It was officially decided once again to
revive DKA. Fr. Freddy was chosen as the convener. Secretary and treasurer
remained the same as before. Wilmix Mazarello, Cipriano Lopes, Cosma
Fernandes, Dr. Olivinho Gomes, Jose S. Fernandes, Fr. Peter Raposo, Fr. Ave
Maria Afonso, Wilfred Menezes, Willy Goes, Andrew and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j.
were nominated as members of the ad hoc managing committee.

17th May Fr. Freddy died.

19th June Mr. Tomazinho was chosen as the convener to lead DKA.

...........

Aiz te 'debate'-ik orth urunk na karonn Tomazinho baban ek sot manun ghetlam: DKA-chi stapnnuk 1988 vorsa zal'li, mhonnje "DKA was established in 1988, not in 1989." Hem sot tache kodden kobul korun ghevpak mhaka tin voir vorsam laglim. Punn

Sotachench zoit zatolem.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges

On 19 May 2010 tomazinho cardozo <tomazinho.goa at gmail.com> wrote:
GT ?DEBATE?? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO?? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa.? Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem? ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE????soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

......
Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !
Post by tomazinho cardozo
From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17)? one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel? to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his? questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists.? As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
? Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy



Sebastian Borges
tomazinho cardozo
2010-05-19 11:10:16 UTC
Permalink
GT ?DEBATE? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa. Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE? soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

Amchea Borges babak ek duens asa. Hem duens mhunttlear zor konn Dalgado
Konknni Akademy (DKA) Romi lipicher onit zalea tacher zhuzpak rochlea
mhunttlear taka to ?Lipirog? rokddoch zata. Goychea Rajbhas kaideak
lagon Romi lipintle Konknnicher onit kelea mhunttlear Borges baba bhitor
to ?Lipirog? rokddoch ustota. Ani oxench GT hea Inglez potracher ghoddlem.

Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !

From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17) one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists. As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy
Sebastian Borges
2010-05-22 11:24:57 UTC
Permalink
Ixttamno,
Tomazinhobab mhonntta, <<Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE soddun pollon ghelo.>>..........<<Nnovi fott! Tannem tor mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.>>

Tumche modlea khubxea zonnamni hatuntlem khotteponn parkhilam astolench, kiteak hi 'Debate' (ektorfi cheorchea) kaim mhoine Goanet-ar Inglixintlean chol'loli.? Mhoje sogle 'reminders' hanga uzvaddak ailole; Tomazinho babachi zag nasli! Itlench nhoi tor Alfred chachak (Alfred de Tavares) hacho vaz ailo ani tannem GT uzvaddaina zalear hanvem mhoje reminders "Heraldak" dhaddpacho sol'lo dilolo; to-i zalear kovitentlean. Ani hanvem taka 'kovitentleanuch' zap dil'li. Titlean to thread somplolo.

GT disallean mhojeo zaiteo chitti uzvaddaileo nant, hem khorem.? Ani tachoch Tomazinhobab faido kaddunk sodta zait. Punn tache "Goodnight" chitti uprant mhojeo don tori chitti GT potrar uzvadda aileat: Walter Menezes ani Jose Salvador Fernandes hankam teach vixoyacher mhojeo zapo.? 'Debate' korche khatir koslim paulam ubarum-ia tem legun suchoun dhaddloli mhoji chitt Goanet-ar uzvadda ailea. Ani magir "reminders'. Ani atam sangta mhoji zag nasli mhunn. Edem vhoddlem lobaddponn?! Loz mhonnloli vost hea sonvsarant asa kai?

Anik tumcho vell vhogddauncho nhoi mhunn tea 'debate' prosongachi sogli mahiti hangach thoddkeant, Goanet-achich sakxi diun, ditam. Survat zali ti Tomazinho babachea Prabhakarbab Tendulkar hancher boroilolea lekhavelean. Tatuntlea eka vakyak horkot gheun hanvem "Dissemination of ignorance" hem potr boroilem. Tem hanga vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-June/178676.html
.................
Hanvem Tomazinho babachem apovnnem svikar kelem, itlench nhoi tor te khatir "procedure' legun suchoilem. Tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180400.html
.....................
Ugddas potr dhaddlem tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183178.html

.......................
Alfred de Tavares hanchi suchovnni:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183310.html
..................
Alfred Chacha-k mhoji zap:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183401.html
..........
Hanga sokol Tomazinho baban Dalgado Konknni Akademi-cher Novembr 2004-nt boroilolo lekh polloyat. Tatuntlem poilench vak'ya "DKA 1988-nt sthaploli" mhunn sangta. Tor don tin vorsam modinch Tomazinho bab hem visorlo ani "DKA was established in 1989" oxem porporot mhonnonk laglo? Hem koxem zaum-ieta? Fuddem "Aims and Objectives" vachat. Tatunt "to fight against the injustice done to Romi Konknni, oxem suchovpi kitem tori asa? "Prgramme for 2005" hatunt punn he vixim koslich tozvit asa? Polleyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2004-November/107341.html
.........
Fr. Pratap Naik hannim "Romi Lipyecho Itihas" mhunn ek lekh boroilolo tatunt DKA-choi itihas aspavta; konn kedna Sekretar aslo hachi mahiti hanga asa. Tor vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-September/119864.html

Hatunt tumkam hem fuddlem vachunk melltta. Zalear DKA-cho poilo Sekretar konn? Ani Jun 2004 porian kitle Sekretar asle? Ani konn konn? Zalear Tomazinhobab survatek savn Sekretar aslo mhonnlem zalear kitem chukta? Sekretar (28-8-1988 - 19-6-2004) mhunn zutti somptanch, Convener zal'lo, hachi nond gheyat.

1987:
4th February Goa Assembly passed the Language bill. Thus Konkani written in
Devanagari script became the State language of Goa.

14th March TSKK called a meeting of Konkani writers in Roman script at
Jesuit House, Panaji to discuss how to introduce Devanagari script for
writing Konkani. During this meeting a few important leaders of Konknni
Porjecho Avaz (KPA) and writers expressed their dissatisfaction regarding
the Language Act 1987. Since then TSKK began to find out from various
people the reason for dissatisfaction. TSKK realized to foster Konkani in
Goa Devanagari and Roman script are essential. Therefore TSKK took the lead
and contacted Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo and discussed
the course of action and decided to call a meeting of Roman script writers,
readers and well-wishers.

1988:
17th July a seminar of Roman script Konkani writers was called at Instituto
de Piedade, Panaji. During the seminar Fr. Pratap Naik, S.J. of Thomas
Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) proposed to Roman script writers and readers
the idea of establishing Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA) to promote Konkani in
Roman script and submitted a master plan for Konkani in Roman script and
proposed to start.

28th August a seminar was held at Loyola High School. Marg?o. Here Fr.
Pratap Naik once again stressed the need of starting DKA. Participants
accepted his suggestion and DKA was established. Fr. Pratap Naik made it
clear to the members that he will not accept any office of DKA. Hence an ad
hoc managing committee was elected. Fr. Freddy J. da Costa was chosen as
the president, Mr. Agnelo Pires as the Vice-President, Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo
as secretary. Mr. Thomas C. Fernandes as Jt. Secretary, Mr. Prabhakar
Tendulkar as the treasurer. Mr. Zito Almeida and Fr. Eusebio Ferr?o as
members and Fr. Pratap Naik was nominated as the advisor. Fr. Pratap was
enrolled as the first member of DKA.

DKA appointed a special committee headed by Fr. Matthew Almeida,s.j. to
prepare Konkani orthography in Roman script. It was published by DKA.

1989:
2 July DKA General Council elected new Managing Committee. President:Fr.
Antimo Gomes, Vice-President:Fr. Planton Faria, Secretary:Tomazinho Cardozo,
Joint Secretary: Mr. Vincy Quadros, Members:Cajetan Vaz, Mrs. Berta Menezes
and Mr. Tarkeshwar Naik.

1990-2004:
June 1990 to 23 March DKA remained dormant due to various reasons. Meanwhile
TSKK persuaded the office bearers either to revive DKA or if it is not
possible to close it down.

1992:
20th August through an amendment to the Constitution of India Konkani was
included in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution.

2004:
25th March Fr. Pratap Naik took the initiative to revive the DKA. He
discussed this matter with Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo.
Subsequently two times Fr. Freddy, Mr. Tomazinho and Mr. Prabhakar Tendulkar
and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j. met at Gulab office at Panaji to discuss the
matter of Roman script and DKA.

12th May Romi writers and readers were invited at T.B.Cunha Hall to discuss
the matter related to Roman script. It was officially decided once again to
revive DKA. Fr. Freddy was chosen as the convener. Secretary and treasurer
remained the same as before. Wilmix Mazarello, Cipriano Lopes, Cosma
Fernandes, Dr. Olivinho Gomes, Jose S. Fernandes, Fr. Peter Raposo, Fr. Ave
Maria Afonso, Wilfred Menezes, Willy Goes, Andrew and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j.
were nominated as members of the ad hoc managing committee.

17th May Fr. Freddy died.

19th June Mr. Tomazinho was chosen as the convener to lead DKA.

...........

Aiz te 'debate'-ik orth urunk na karonn Tomazinho baban ek sot manun ghetlam: DKA-chi stapnnuk 1988 vorsa zal'li, mhonnje "DKA was established in 1988, not in 1989." Hem sot tache kodden kobul korun ghevpak mhaka tin voir vorsam laglim. Punn

Sotachench zoit zatolem.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges

On 19 May 2010 tomazinho cardozo <tomazinho.goa at gmail.com> wrote:
GT ?DEBATE?? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO?? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa.? Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem? ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE????soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

......
Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !
Post by tomazinho cardozo
From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17)? one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel? to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his? questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists.? As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
? Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy



Sebastian Borges
tomazinho cardozo
2010-05-19 11:10:16 UTC
Permalink
GT ?DEBATE? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa. Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE? soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

Amchea Borges babak ek duens asa. Hem duens mhunttlear zor konn Dalgado
Konknni Akademy (DKA) Romi lipicher onit zalea tacher zhuzpak rochlea
mhunttlear taka to ?Lipirog? rokddoch zata. Goychea Rajbhas kaideak
lagon Romi lipintle Konknnicher onit kelea mhunttlear Borges baba bhitor
to ?Lipirog? rokddoch ustota. Ani oxench GT hea Inglez potracher ghoddlem.

Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !

From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17) one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists. As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy
Sebastian Borges
2010-05-22 11:24:57 UTC
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Ixttamno,
Tomazinhobab mhonntta, <<Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE soddun pollon ghelo.>>..........<<Nnovi fott! Tannem tor mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.>>

Tumche modlea khubxea zonnamni hatuntlem khotteponn parkhilam astolench, kiteak hi 'Debate' (ektorfi cheorchea) kaim mhoine Goanet-ar Inglixintlean chol'loli.? Mhoje sogle 'reminders' hanga uzvaddak ailole; Tomazinho babachi zag nasli! Itlench nhoi tor Alfred chachak (Alfred de Tavares) hacho vaz ailo ani tannem GT uzvaddaina zalear hanvem mhoje reminders "Heraldak" dhaddpacho sol'lo dilolo; to-i zalear kovitentlean. Ani hanvem taka 'kovitentleanuch' zap dil'li. Titlean to thread somplolo.

GT disallean mhojeo zaiteo chitti uzvaddaileo nant, hem khorem.? Ani tachoch Tomazinhobab faido kaddunk sodta zait. Punn tache "Goodnight" chitti uprant mhojeo don tori chitti GT potrar uzvadda aileat: Walter Menezes ani Jose Salvador Fernandes hankam teach vixoyacher mhojeo zapo.? 'Debate' korche khatir koslim paulam ubarum-ia tem legun suchoun dhaddloli mhoji chitt Goanet-ar uzvadda ailea. Ani magir "reminders'. Ani atam sangta mhoji zag nasli mhunn. Edem vhoddlem lobaddponn?! Loz mhonnloli vost hea sonvsarant asa kai?

Anik tumcho vell vhogddauncho nhoi mhunn tea 'debate' prosongachi sogli mahiti hangach thoddkeant, Goanet-achich sakxi diun, ditam. Survat zali ti Tomazinho babachea Prabhakarbab Tendulkar hancher boroilolea lekhavelean. Tatuntlea eka vakyak horkot gheun hanvem "Dissemination of ignorance" hem potr boroilem. Tem hanga vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-June/178676.html
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Hanvem Tomazinho babachem apovnnem svikar kelem, itlench nhoi tor te khatir "procedure' legun suchoilem. Tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180400.html
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Ugddas potr dhaddlem tem hanga polloyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183178.html

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Alfred de Tavares hanchi suchovnni:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183310.html
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Alfred Chacha-k mhoji zap:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183401.html
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Hanga sokol Tomazinho baban Dalgado Konknni Akademi-cher Novembr 2004-nt boroilolo lekh polloyat. Tatuntlem poilench vak'ya "DKA 1988-nt sthaploli" mhunn sangta. Tor don tin vorsam modinch Tomazinho bab hem visorlo ani "DKA was established in 1989" oxem porporot mhonnonk laglo? Hem koxem zaum-ieta? Fuddem "Aims and Objectives" vachat. Tatunt "to fight against the injustice done to Romi Konknni, oxem suchovpi kitem tori asa? "Prgramme for 2005" hatunt punn he vixim koslich tozvit asa? Polleyat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2004-November/107341.html
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Fr. Pratap Naik hannim "Romi Lipyecho Itihas" mhunn ek lekh boroilolo tatunt DKA-choi itihas aspavta; konn kedna Sekretar aslo hachi mahiti hanga asa. Tor vachat:

http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-September/119864.html

Hatunt tumkam hem fuddlem vachunk melltta. Zalear DKA-cho poilo Sekretar konn? Ani Jun 2004 porian kitle Sekretar asle? Ani konn konn? Zalear Tomazinhobab survatek savn Sekretar aslo mhonnlem zalear kitem chukta? Sekretar (28-8-1988 - 19-6-2004) mhunn zutti somptanch, Convener zal'lo, hachi nond gheyat.

1987:
4th February Goa Assembly passed the Language bill. Thus Konkani written in
Devanagari script became the State language of Goa.

14th March TSKK called a meeting of Konkani writers in Roman script at
Jesuit House, Panaji to discuss how to introduce Devanagari script for
writing Konkani. During this meeting a few important leaders of Konknni
Porjecho Avaz (KPA) and writers expressed their dissatisfaction regarding
the Language Act 1987. Since then TSKK began to find out from various
people the reason for dissatisfaction. TSKK realized to foster Konkani in
Goa Devanagari and Roman script are essential. Therefore TSKK took the lead
and contacted Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo and discussed
the course of action and decided to call a meeting of Roman script writers,
readers and well-wishers.

1988:
17th July a seminar of Roman script Konkani writers was called at Instituto
de Piedade, Panaji. During the seminar Fr. Pratap Naik, S.J. of Thomas
Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) proposed to Roman script writers and readers
the idea of establishing Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA) to promote Konkani in
Roman script and submitted a master plan for Konkani in Roman script and
proposed to start.

28th August a seminar was held at Loyola High School. Marg?o. Here Fr.
Pratap Naik once again stressed the need of starting DKA. Participants
accepted his suggestion and DKA was established. Fr. Pratap Naik made it
clear to the members that he will not accept any office of DKA. Hence an ad
hoc managing committee was elected. Fr. Freddy J. da Costa was chosen as
the president, Mr. Agnelo Pires as the Vice-President, Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo
as secretary. Mr. Thomas C. Fernandes as Jt. Secretary, Mr. Prabhakar
Tendulkar as the treasurer. Mr. Zito Almeida and Fr. Eusebio Ferr?o as
members and Fr. Pratap Naik was nominated as the advisor. Fr. Pratap was
enrolled as the first member of DKA.

DKA appointed a special committee headed by Fr. Matthew Almeida,s.j. to
prepare Konkani orthography in Roman script. It was published by DKA.

1989:
2 July DKA General Council elected new Managing Committee. President:Fr.
Antimo Gomes, Vice-President:Fr. Planton Faria, Secretary:Tomazinho Cardozo,
Joint Secretary: Mr. Vincy Quadros, Members:Cajetan Vaz, Mrs. Berta Menezes
and Mr. Tarkeshwar Naik.

1990-2004:
June 1990 to 23 March DKA remained dormant due to various reasons. Meanwhile
TSKK persuaded the office bearers either to revive DKA or if it is not
possible to close it down.

1992:
20th August through an amendment to the Constitution of India Konkani was
included in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution.

2004:
25th March Fr. Pratap Naik took the initiative to revive the DKA. He
discussed this matter with Fr. Freddy da Costa and Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo.
Subsequently two times Fr. Freddy, Mr. Tomazinho and Mr. Prabhakar Tendulkar
and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j. met at Gulab office at Panaji to discuss the
matter of Roman script and DKA.

12th May Romi writers and readers were invited at T.B.Cunha Hall to discuss
the matter related to Roman script. It was officially decided once again to
revive DKA. Fr. Freddy was chosen as the convener. Secretary and treasurer
remained the same as before. Wilmix Mazarello, Cipriano Lopes, Cosma
Fernandes, Dr. Olivinho Gomes, Jose S. Fernandes, Fr. Peter Raposo, Fr. Ave
Maria Afonso, Wilfred Menezes, Willy Goes, Andrew and Fr. Pratap Naik, s.j.
were nominated as members of the ad hoc managing committee.

17th May Fr. Freddy died.

19th June Mr. Tomazinho was chosen as the convener to lead DKA.

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Aiz te 'debate'-ik orth urunk na karonn Tomazinho baban ek sot manun ghetlam: DKA-chi stapnnuk 1988 vorsa zal'li, mhonnje "DKA was established in 1988, not in 1989." Hem sot tache kodden kobul korun ghevpak mhaka tin voir vorsam laglim. Punn

Sotachench zoit zatolem.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges

On 19 May 2010 tomazinho cardozo <tomazinho.goa at gmail.com> wrote:
GT ?DEBATE?? SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO?? HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak
poilo ?DEBATE? hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)

Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa.? Apnnem pap korop
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ?Gomantak Times?
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen
niyall kelear tem sid?dh zata ani hanvem? ?Debate? korunk avhan dilolem
ti ?DEBATE????soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.

......
Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho
?Lipirog? ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo
zabab:

First Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges?s letter ? Disseminating ignorance - published on your
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as
soon as possible.

Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.

Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media
? printed as well as electronic ? and the people. If that happens then
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance,
false information and manipulated history.

I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone
9822170102.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani
ekach borobor ?sot? kitem ani ?fott? kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir
hanvem ?DEBATE? korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab
ti ?debate? korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch
?Debate? korum-ia. ?Debate? korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:

Second Reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET?S HAVE THE DEBATE ? NO ?ifs? and ?buts? !
Post by tomazinho cardozo
From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ?Let?s have the debate, Tomazinho,
but ??? (Gt June 17)? one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding
Konkani in Roman script?

Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, ? Politicians
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel? to deny Cardozo his
craving.? The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies
by the politicians only who according to him crave for media exposure.
It is very easy to make use of the term ?politician? in a defamatory way
but it is very difficult to refuse the goodies offered by the same
politicians.

Therefore this is my last request to Mr. Borges. If Mr. Borges has the
courage to face the truth then only he can accept the proposition of
having a debate. But if he wishes to continue his tirade against Konkani
in Roman script and its supporters with the help of lies and
?manipulated facts? then he is free to give excuses to prevent the
debate from happening.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Borges bab-an portun zabab dilo. Tantun anik fotti marleot ani mhojer
bunhead naslole arop ghatle. ?Chol DEBATE korum-ia hanv toyar asam mhunn
mat tannem mhunttlem na. Tea khatir hanvem taka mhojo tisro ani nimnno
zabab dilo. GT potrar porgott zalolo ho mhojo tisro ani nimnno zabab:


My last reply to S. M. Borges? Letter on Gomantak Times dated June 26.


THANK YOU MR BORGES, GOOD NIGHT!

After going through S. M. Borges?s letter (GT June 26) I am convinced of
the fact that Mr. S. M. Borges is afraid of having a face to face
debate. That pleases me because he has no guts to face the truth. I am
also convinced that if the debate is held all his lies and manipulations
will be exposed once and for all and the truth about Konkani in Roman
script will prevail. This also means that he will have no moral right to
go ahead with his anti ? Konkani in Roman script tirade any more. And
under no circumstances he wishes to end his anti-Konkani in Roman script
tirade so abruptly.

In his above referred letter he has stated two more lies. He says I have
promised to answer his questions which is a lie because I proposed to
have a debate so that his? questions are answered by me and my questions
by him. If so where is the question of promising to answer his questions
here? The other lie he has stated is that I had accused Uday Bhembre for
communal writings. Once again it is a manipulation! Yes I did argue with
Uday Bhembre but not on communal writings. I regret to state that the
minds which are infested with communalism consider anything and
everything on communal lines.

We live in the 21st century. Today all issues are clarified and solved
through talks, discussions and debate. India and Pakistan have even
agreed to sit together and to discuss, clarify and if possible solve the
most critical issue of Kashmir. Today the world over
debate/discussion/talk is considered the only solution to get the
mind-set cleared of misinformation and misunderstandings. And in this
era, here is my friend Mr. Borges who does not consider a debate useful
to clarify his as well as my stand on Konkani in Roman script.

Mr. Borges may go to any extent to destroy Konkani in Roman script. We
do not mind at all because the movement for the promotion and for
acquiring equal status to Konkani in Roman script along with Devnagori
script started by DKA and other organizations will never stop. In fact
this movement has compelled the government to recognize the importance
of Konkani in Roman script and hence DKA has been granted financial
assistance, Tiatr Academy of Goa has been formed, Ravindra Bhavan?s main
auditorium is named after Joao Agostinho Fernandes, literary awards
stopped for Konkani in Roman script have been re-started by Kala
Akademy, Goa Konkani Akademy, for the first time, has a Vice-President
other than the protagonist of Devnagori script alone, etc, etc.
Remaining demands of DKA will also be met at the appropriate time. All
this is a matter of serious concern to Mr. Borges.

Therefore my proposal for a debate still exists.? As per Mr. Borges?s
wishes we will have it at any time as per his convenience. In spite of
all this, if Mr. Borges has no courage to face the truth then his ill
intentions towards Konkani in Roman script are clear. Hence I say in
conclusion, ?Thank you Mr. Borges, Good Night!?

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim.

Hea mhojea zababa uprant Borges bab-an anik zabuch kelina. Ti DEBATE
koria vo naka tenvuim sanglem na. Ani amcho bhizudd Borges bab ti DEBATE
soddun pollon ghelo.

Sunneachi xempddi vankddi mhunntta tem khorem. Ti DEBATE soddun apunn
pollon ghelo ani atam amcho Borges bab oxem mhunntta, ? Hanvem heach
vixoyacher taka GT disallear, puravea soit, ovhan dil'lem tedna tannem
mhojea prosnank soroll zapo diunche bodlek mhaka 'debate' korunk apoilo.
? Punn jedna hanvem tachi suchovnni svikarun tannench ti 'debate'
ghoddoun haddchi mhunn zap dili, tedna tannem kaim mhoine porian samkem
moneponn pall'llem; hanvem sabar 'reminder' dhaddlole mhunn tumkam
(Goanet vachpeank) ugddas asach nhoi??

Amchea Borges bab-achi hi anik ek fott zaun asa. Nnovi fott! Tannem tor
mhoji DEBATE korpachem avhan svikarun DEBATE korunk apunn raji asam
mhunnon zabab dila zalear to tacho zabab khoinche tarkechea GT potrar
aila to mhaka matxem Borges bab-an sangchem. Fotti sangon vachpeank
guspaghonddolant lagunk proitn korinakai.

Hache voilean GT ?DEBATE? soddun konn pollon ghelo tem sid?dh zata.

Borges bab fottinchem zoit korunk ami tuka kednanch diunchena.

Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim, Goy



Sebastian Borges

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