Discussion:
Is BJP really communal ?
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JoeGoaUk
2007-05-24 12:11:23 UTC
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Is BJP really communal ?

As a kid, we always thought MGP or Lion (Shiv) or Maharastrawadi Gomantak Party belongs to
Marathas or Hindus so it got to be Communal. As we grow older, during Konkani Language
agitation 1987 etc, we had even more reasons to believe that MGP is really communal. We took
Marathi belongs to Hindus (MGP) and Konkani belongs to Christians. And hence there is a fight
between Hindus and Christians in the name of Konkani or official language of Goa.

After some years, we read in newspapers etc about the activities of Shiv Sena and BJP outside
Goa. At this time we said to ourselves, Shiv Sena is worst than MGP and BJP.

During election time those days, we knew some BJP (and Shiv Sena) candidates contesting for
Goa Assembly seats. We said there is no way these people win the election in Goa purely
because they are communal. But to our surprise, there were about 4 winning seats by the BJP.
And during the subsequent elections, the BJP strength rose to about 19 including some
Christian MLAs. At this time we hardly talked about the then communal party MGP as it?s
strength was reduced to a minimum. So, MGP gone out of our mind but BJP remained as communal
party now. I treated BJP as 100% communal mainly because of the happenings elsewhere in India.
BJP came to power in Goa around 2002, after seeing the development within the short period of
time etc , I thought may be BJP is communal only out side Goa . At this time I treated BJP as
50% communal. But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought BJP in Goa is not
communal at all but reading various reports and postings (including Goanet and other
yahoogroups etc ), I reluctantly treated BJP as 20% communal.

When I wrote to Parrikar then CM of Goa (Jan.2004) to do something about the forthcoming
Anjediva Island feast i.e. Feb2, he replied to me saying it was too late now (18 years old
matter) and nothing can be done now (see proof below).

Again, in late Jan. 2007, Parrikar being in the opposition, he wrote a letter to Godfrey
Gonsalves on the same Anjediva Island Feast matter saying.. the matter is now sent to Union
Defence Minister Shri AK Anthony (see proof below).

My question to Parrikar..
While you were the CM of Goa, you said it was too late..
And now that you are in the opposition, (matter is 21 years old now) suddenly you thought it
was not too late ?

At this time my treatment to BJP gone up from 20% to 60% communal.

But then again, after sometime, I realized that BJP as opportunist like any other parties
or politicians so I am back to 20%.

Today, after reading a news item in GT front page captioned ?BJP Scraps Taleigao Block? my
trust in BJP has shrunken again . It says ?face with rebellion against its official
candidate, the BJP yesterday dissolved its Taleigao Mandal Committee headed by Pradip
Nagvenkar citing the committee?s non-coopeation in the constituency for the june 2 goa Assemly
elections.?

Mr. Pradip Nagvenkar told GT that he is still with BJP and was opposed to party?s decision of
fielding a Christian candidate in Taleigao. He said that as a hardcore RSS activist aad
staunch proponent of the Hindutva philosophy he felt it was improper to work for Agnelo
Silveira as party?s candidate in Taleigao.

====

I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?


But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.


Cc to BJP


Quotes:

Letter I

Dear Group owner (Goan-NRI), I am in receipt of your email dated January 17, 2004. The
matter is 18 years old. Nothing can be done now. May please inform.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,
Manohar Parrikar
Chief Minister of Goa

==================


Letter II

Later, this writer was surprised to receive an email dated 2/2/2007 from the Leader of the
Opposition Mr Manohar Parrikar which read thus:

******************************************************

Dear Shri Gonsalves,

This is with reference to your email regarding " Nossa Senhora de Brotas " at Anjediv
island. In this regard, i have already sent your letter to Shri A.K. Anthony, Union
Minister for Defence, New Delhi for considering it favorably. The copy of the same is
attached herewith for your kind perusal.

With warm regards,

Yours sincerely, Manohar Parrikar
Leader of the Opposition

No. 1- 3-05/Lead. Of the opp.
Dated: 30th January, 2007

Sub: Permission for the Catholic Community to celebrate the Feast of ?Nossa Senhora de Brotas?
at Anjediv island on 2/02/07. Dear

I am enclosing herewith the representation from shri Godrey J I Gonsalves, on the subject
matter. Earlier as Chief Minister of the State, I had raised the Issue with Shri George
Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, without any outcome. I request you once again to look
into the matter and consider the same favourably.

Thanking you,

Yours (MANOHAR PARRIKAR)

To, Shri A.K Anthony,
Union Minister for Defence,
South Block, New Delhi -11



Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

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http://thisisgoa.com/




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Bosco D'Mello
2007-05-25 04:28:19 UTC
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But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought
BJP in Goa is not communal at all
I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP
think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?
But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.
RESPONSE: JoeGoaUK, you are not confused! As you have stated above - You
have the real picture of Goa since you are in Goa for over a year.

While you continue to work on your picture, do keep us updated.

- Bosco
JoeGoaUk
2007-05-24 12:11:23 UTC
Permalink
Is BJP really communal ?

As a kid, we always thought MGP or Lion (Shiv) or Maharastrawadi Gomantak Party belongs to
Marathas or Hindus so it got to be Communal. As we grow older, during Konkani Language
agitation 1987 etc, we had even more reasons to believe that MGP is really communal. We took
Marathi belongs to Hindus (MGP) and Konkani belongs to Christians. And hence there is a fight
between Hindus and Christians in the name of Konkani or official language of Goa.

After some years, we read in newspapers etc about the activities of Shiv Sena and BJP outside
Goa. At this time we said to ourselves, Shiv Sena is worst than MGP and BJP.

During election time those days, we knew some BJP (and Shiv Sena) candidates contesting for
Goa Assembly seats. We said there is no way these people win the election in Goa purely
because they are communal. But to our surprise, there were about 4 winning seats by the BJP.
And during the subsequent elections, the BJP strength rose to about 19 including some
Christian MLAs. At this time we hardly talked about the then communal party MGP as it?s
strength was reduced to a minimum. So, MGP gone out of our mind but BJP remained as communal
party now. I treated BJP as 100% communal mainly because of the happenings elsewhere in India.
BJP came to power in Goa around 2002, after seeing the development within the short period of
time etc , I thought may be BJP is communal only out side Goa . At this time I treated BJP as
50% communal. But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought BJP in Goa is not
communal at all but reading various reports and postings (including Goanet and other
yahoogroups etc ), I reluctantly treated BJP as 20% communal.

When I wrote to Parrikar then CM of Goa (Jan.2004) to do something about the forthcoming
Anjediva Island feast i.e. Feb2, he replied to me saying it was too late now (18 years old
matter) and nothing can be done now (see proof below).

Again, in late Jan. 2007, Parrikar being in the opposition, he wrote a letter to Godfrey
Gonsalves on the same Anjediva Island Feast matter saying.. the matter is now sent to Union
Defence Minister Shri AK Anthony (see proof below).

My question to Parrikar..
While you were the CM of Goa, you said it was too late..
And now that you are in the opposition, (matter is 21 years old now) suddenly you thought it
was not too late ?

At this time my treatment to BJP gone up from 20% to 60% communal.

But then again, after sometime, I realized that BJP as opportunist like any other parties
or politicians so I am back to 20%.

Today, after reading a news item in GT front page captioned ?BJP Scraps Taleigao Block? my
trust in BJP has shrunken again . It says ?face with rebellion against its official
candidate, the BJP yesterday dissolved its Taleigao Mandal Committee headed by Pradip
Nagvenkar citing the committee?s non-coopeation in the constituency for the june 2 goa Assemly
elections.?

Mr. Pradip Nagvenkar told GT that he is still with BJP and was opposed to party?s decision of
fielding a Christian candidate in Taleigao. He said that as a hardcore RSS activist aad
staunch proponent of the Hindutva philosophy he felt it was improper to work for Agnelo
Silveira as party?s candidate in Taleigao.

====

I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?


But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.


Cc to BJP


Quotes:

Letter I

Dear Group owner (Goan-NRI), I am in receipt of your email dated January 17, 2004. The
matter is 18 years old. Nothing can be done now. May please inform.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,
Manohar Parrikar
Chief Minister of Goa

==================


Letter II

Later, this writer was surprised to receive an email dated 2/2/2007 from the Leader of the
Opposition Mr Manohar Parrikar which read thus:

******************************************************

Dear Shri Gonsalves,

This is with reference to your email regarding " Nossa Senhora de Brotas " at Anjediv
island. In this regard, i have already sent your letter to Shri A.K. Anthony, Union
Minister for Defence, New Delhi for considering it favorably. The copy of the same is
attached herewith for your kind perusal.

With warm regards,

Yours sincerely, Manohar Parrikar
Leader of the Opposition

No. 1- 3-05/Lead. Of the opp.
Dated: 30th January, 2007

Sub: Permission for the Catholic Community to celebrate the Feast of ?Nossa Senhora de Brotas?
at Anjediv island on 2/02/07. Dear

I am enclosing herewith the representation from shri Godrey J I Gonsalves, on the subject
matter. Earlier as Chief Minister of the State, I had raised the Issue with Shri George
Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, without any outcome. I request you once again to look
into the matter and consider the same favourably.

Thanking you,

Yours (MANOHAR PARRIKAR)

To, Shri A.K Anthony,
Union Minister for Defence,
South Block, New Delhi -11



Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

For Goan Video Clips
http://thisisgoa.com/




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Bosco D'Mello
2007-05-25 04:28:19 UTC
Permalink
But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought
BJP in Goa is not communal at all
I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP
think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?
But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.
RESPONSE: JoeGoaUK, you are not confused! As you have stated above - You
have the real picture of Goa since you are in Goa for over a year.

While you continue to work on your picture, do keep us updated.

- Bosco
JoeGoaUk
2007-05-24 12:11:23 UTC
Permalink
Is BJP really communal ?

As a kid, we always thought MGP or Lion (Shiv) or Maharastrawadi Gomantak Party belongs to
Marathas or Hindus so it got to be Communal. As we grow older, during Konkani Language
agitation 1987 etc, we had even more reasons to believe that MGP is really communal. We took
Marathi belongs to Hindus (MGP) and Konkani belongs to Christians. And hence there is a fight
between Hindus and Christians in the name of Konkani or official language of Goa.

After some years, we read in newspapers etc about the activities of Shiv Sena and BJP outside
Goa. At this time we said to ourselves, Shiv Sena is worst than MGP and BJP.

During election time those days, we knew some BJP (and Shiv Sena) candidates contesting for
Goa Assembly seats. We said there is no way these people win the election in Goa purely
because they are communal. But to our surprise, there were about 4 winning seats by the BJP.
And during the subsequent elections, the BJP strength rose to about 19 including some
Christian MLAs. At this time we hardly talked about the then communal party MGP as it?s
strength was reduced to a minimum. So, MGP gone out of our mind but BJP remained as communal
party now. I treated BJP as 100% communal mainly because of the happenings elsewhere in India.
BJP came to power in Goa around 2002, after seeing the development within the short period of
time etc , I thought may be BJP is communal only out side Goa . At this time I treated BJP as
50% communal. But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought BJP in Goa is not
communal at all but reading various reports and postings (including Goanet and other
yahoogroups etc ), I reluctantly treated BJP as 20% communal.

When I wrote to Parrikar then CM of Goa (Jan.2004) to do something about the forthcoming
Anjediva Island feast i.e. Feb2, he replied to me saying it was too late now (18 years old
matter) and nothing can be done now (see proof below).

Again, in late Jan. 2007, Parrikar being in the opposition, he wrote a letter to Godfrey
Gonsalves on the same Anjediva Island Feast matter saying.. the matter is now sent to Union
Defence Minister Shri AK Anthony (see proof below).

My question to Parrikar..
While you were the CM of Goa, you said it was too late..
And now that you are in the opposition, (matter is 21 years old now) suddenly you thought it
was not too late ?

At this time my treatment to BJP gone up from 20% to 60% communal.

But then again, after sometime, I realized that BJP as opportunist like any other parties
or politicians so I am back to 20%.

Today, after reading a news item in GT front page captioned ?BJP Scraps Taleigao Block? my
trust in BJP has shrunken again . It says ?face with rebellion against its official
candidate, the BJP yesterday dissolved its Taleigao Mandal Committee headed by Pradip
Nagvenkar citing the committee?s non-coopeation in the constituency for the june 2 goa Assemly
elections.?

Mr. Pradip Nagvenkar told GT that he is still with BJP and was opposed to party?s decision of
fielding a Christian candidate in Taleigao. He said that as a hardcore RSS activist aad
staunch proponent of the Hindutva philosophy he felt it was improper to work for Agnelo
Silveira as party?s candidate in Taleigao.

====

I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?


But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.


Cc to BJP


Quotes:

Letter I

Dear Group owner (Goan-NRI), I am in receipt of your email dated January 17, 2004. The
matter is 18 years old. Nothing can be done now. May please inform.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,
Manohar Parrikar
Chief Minister of Goa

==================


Letter II

Later, this writer was surprised to receive an email dated 2/2/2007 from the Leader of the
Opposition Mr Manohar Parrikar which read thus:

******************************************************

Dear Shri Gonsalves,

This is with reference to your email regarding " Nossa Senhora de Brotas " at Anjediv
island. In this regard, i have already sent your letter to Shri A.K. Anthony, Union
Minister for Defence, New Delhi for considering it favorably. The copy of the same is
attached herewith for your kind perusal.

With warm regards,

Yours sincerely, Manohar Parrikar
Leader of the Opposition

No. 1- 3-05/Lead. Of the opp.
Dated: 30th January, 2007

Sub: Permission for the Catholic Community to celebrate the Feast of ?Nossa Senhora de Brotas?
at Anjediv island on 2/02/07. Dear

I am enclosing herewith the representation from shri Godrey J I Gonsalves, on the subject
matter. Earlier as Chief Minister of the State, I had raised the Issue with Shri George
Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, without any outcome. I request you once again to look
into the matter and consider the same favourably.

Thanking you,

Yours (MANOHAR PARRIKAR)

To, Shri A.K Anthony,
Union Minister for Defence,
South Block, New Delhi -11



Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

For Goan Video Clips
http://thisisgoa.com/




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Bosco D'Mello
2007-05-25 04:28:19 UTC
Permalink
But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought
BJP in Goa is not communal at all
I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP
think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?
But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.
RESPONSE: JoeGoaUK, you are not confused! As you have stated above - You
have the real picture of Goa since you are in Goa for over a year.

While you continue to work on your picture, do keep us updated.

- Bosco
JoeGoaUk
2007-05-24 12:11:23 UTC
Permalink
Is BJP really communal ?

As a kid, we always thought MGP or Lion (Shiv) or Maharastrawadi Gomantak Party belongs to
Marathas or Hindus so it got to be Communal. As we grow older, during Konkani Language
agitation 1987 etc, we had even more reasons to believe that MGP is really communal. We took
Marathi belongs to Hindus (MGP) and Konkani belongs to Christians. And hence there is a fight
between Hindus and Christians in the name of Konkani or official language of Goa.

After some years, we read in newspapers etc about the activities of Shiv Sena and BJP outside
Goa. At this time we said to ourselves, Shiv Sena is worst than MGP and BJP.

During election time those days, we knew some BJP (and Shiv Sena) candidates contesting for
Goa Assembly seats. We said there is no way these people win the election in Goa purely
because they are communal. But to our surprise, there were about 4 winning seats by the BJP.
And during the subsequent elections, the BJP strength rose to about 19 including some
Christian MLAs. At this time we hardly talked about the then communal party MGP as it?s
strength was reduced to a minimum. So, MGP gone out of our mind but BJP remained as communal
party now. I treated BJP as 100% communal mainly because of the happenings elsewhere in India.
BJP came to power in Goa around 2002, after seeing the development within the short period of
time etc , I thought may be BJP is communal only out side Goa . At this time I treated BJP as
50% communal. But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought BJP in Goa is not
communal at all but reading various reports and postings (including Goanet and other
yahoogroups etc ), I reluctantly treated BJP as 20% communal.

When I wrote to Parrikar then CM of Goa (Jan.2004) to do something about the forthcoming
Anjediva Island feast i.e. Feb2, he replied to me saying it was too late now (18 years old
matter) and nothing can be done now (see proof below).

Again, in late Jan. 2007, Parrikar being in the opposition, he wrote a letter to Godfrey
Gonsalves on the same Anjediva Island Feast matter saying.. the matter is now sent to Union
Defence Minister Shri AK Anthony (see proof below).

My question to Parrikar..
While you were the CM of Goa, you said it was too late..
And now that you are in the opposition, (matter is 21 years old now) suddenly you thought it
was not too late ?

At this time my treatment to BJP gone up from 20% to 60% communal.

But then again, after sometime, I realized that BJP as opportunist like any other parties
or politicians so I am back to 20%.

Today, after reading a news item in GT front page captioned ?BJP Scraps Taleigao Block? my
trust in BJP has shrunken again . It says ?face with rebellion against its official
candidate, the BJP yesterday dissolved its Taleigao Mandal Committee headed by Pradip
Nagvenkar citing the committee?s non-coopeation in the constituency for the june 2 goa Assemly
elections.?

Mr. Pradip Nagvenkar told GT that he is still with BJP and was opposed to party?s decision of
fielding a Christian candidate in Taleigao. He said that as a hardcore RSS activist aad
staunch proponent of the Hindutva philosophy he felt it was improper to work for Agnelo
Silveira as party?s candidate in Taleigao.

====

I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?


But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.


Cc to BJP


Quotes:

Letter I

Dear Group owner (Goan-NRI), I am in receipt of your email dated January 17, 2004. The
matter is 18 years old. Nothing can be done now. May please inform.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,
Manohar Parrikar
Chief Minister of Goa

==================


Letter II

Later, this writer was surprised to receive an email dated 2/2/2007 from the Leader of the
Opposition Mr Manohar Parrikar which read thus:

******************************************************

Dear Shri Gonsalves,

This is with reference to your email regarding " Nossa Senhora de Brotas " at Anjediv
island. In this regard, i have already sent your letter to Shri A.K. Anthony, Union
Minister for Defence, New Delhi for considering it favorably. The copy of the same is
attached herewith for your kind perusal.

With warm regards,

Yours sincerely, Manohar Parrikar
Leader of the Opposition

No. 1- 3-05/Lead. Of the opp.
Dated: 30th January, 2007

Sub: Permission for the Catholic Community to celebrate the Feast of ?Nossa Senhora de Brotas?
at Anjediv island on 2/02/07. Dear

I am enclosing herewith the representation from shri Godrey J I Gonsalves, on the subject
matter. Earlier as Chief Minister of the State, I had raised the Issue with Shri George
Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, without any outcome. I request you once again to look
into the matter and consider the same favourably.

Thanking you,

Yours (MANOHAR PARRIKAR)

To, Shri A.K Anthony,
Union Minister for Defence,
South Block, New Delhi -11



Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

For Goan Video Clips
http://thisisgoa.com/




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Bosco D'Mello
2007-05-25 04:28:19 UTC
Permalink
But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought
BJP in Goa is not communal at all
I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP
think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?
But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.
RESPONSE: JoeGoaUK, you are not confused! As you have stated above - You
have the real picture of Goa since you are in Goa for over a year.

While you continue to work on your picture, do keep us updated.

- Bosco
JoeGoaUk
2007-05-24 12:11:23 UTC
Permalink
Is BJP really communal ?

As a kid, we always thought MGP or Lion (Shiv) or Maharastrawadi Gomantak Party belongs to
Marathas or Hindus so it got to be Communal. As we grow older, during Konkani Language
agitation 1987 etc, we had even more reasons to believe that MGP is really communal. We took
Marathi belongs to Hindus (MGP) and Konkani belongs to Christians. And hence there is a fight
between Hindus and Christians in the name of Konkani or official language of Goa.

After some years, we read in newspapers etc about the activities of Shiv Sena and BJP outside
Goa. At this time we said to ourselves, Shiv Sena is worst than MGP and BJP.

During election time those days, we knew some BJP (and Shiv Sena) candidates contesting for
Goa Assembly seats. We said there is no way these people win the election in Goa purely
because they are communal. But to our surprise, there were about 4 winning seats by the BJP.
And during the subsequent elections, the BJP strength rose to about 19 including some
Christian MLAs. At this time we hardly talked about the then communal party MGP as it?s
strength was reduced to a minimum. So, MGP gone out of our mind but BJP remained as communal
party now. I treated BJP as 100% communal mainly because of the happenings elsewhere in India.
BJP came to power in Goa around 2002, after seeing the development within the short period of
time etc , I thought may be BJP is communal only out side Goa . At this time I treated BJP as
50% communal. But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought BJP in Goa is not
communal at all but reading various reports and postings (including Goanet and other
yahoogroups etc ), I reluctantly treated BJP as 20% communal.

When I wrote to Parrikar then CM of Goa (Jan.2004) to do something about the forthcoming
Anjediva Island feast i.e. Feb2, he replied to me saying it was too late now (18 years old
matter) and nothing can be done now (see proof below).

Again, in late Jan. 2007, Parrikar being in the opposition, he wrote a letter to Godfrey
Gonsalves on the same Anjediva Island Feast matter saying.. the matter is now sent to Union
Defence Minister Shri AK Anthony (see proof below).

My question to Parrikar..
While you were the CM of Goa, you said it was too late..
And now that you are in the opposition, (matter is 21 years old now) suddenly you thought it
was not too late ?

At this time my treatment to BJP gone up from 20% to 60% communal.

But then again, after sometime, I realized that BJP as opportunist like any other parties
or politicians so I am back to 20%.

Today, after reading a news item in GT front page captioned ?BJP Scraps Taleigao Block? my
trust in BJP has shrunken again . It says ?face with rebellion against its official
candidate, the BJP yesterday dissolved its Taleigao Mandal Committee headed by Pradip
Nagvenkar citing the committee?s non-coopeation in the constituency for the june 2 goa Assemly
elections.?

Mr. Pradip Nagvenkar told GT that he is still with BJP and was opposed to party?s decision of
fielding a Christian candidate in Taleigao. He said that as a hardcore RSS activist aad
staunch proponent of the Hindutva philosophy he felt it was improper to work for Agnelo
Silveira as party?s candidate in Taleigao.

====

I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?


But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.


Cc to BJP


Quotes:

Letter I

Dear Group owner (Goan-NRI), I am in receipt of your email dated January 17, 2004. The
matter is 18 years old. Nothing can be done now. May please inform.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,
Manohar Parrikar
Chief Minister of Goa

==================


Letter II

Later, this writer was surprised to receive an email dated 2/2/2007 from the Leader of the
Opposition Mr Manohar Parrikar which read thus:

******************************************************

Dear Shri Gonsalves,

This is with reference to your email regarding " Nossa Senhora de Brotas " at Anjediv
island. In this regard, i have already sent your letter to Shri A.K. Anthony, Union
Minister for Defence, New Delhi for considering it favorably. The copy of the same is
attached herewith for your kind perusal.

With warm regards,

Yours sincerely, Manohar Parrikar
Leader of the Opposition

No. 1- 3-05/Lead. Of the opp.
Dated: 30th January, 2007

Sub: Permission for the Catholic Community to celebrate the Feast of ?Nossa Senhora de Brotas?
at Anjediv island on 2/02/07. Dear

I am enclosing herewith the representation from shri Godrey J I Gonsalves, on the subject
matter. Earlier as Chief Minister of the State, I had raised the Issue with Shri George
Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, without any outcome. I request you once again to look
into the matter and consider the same favourably.

Thanking you,

Yours (MANOHAR PARRIKAR)

To, Shri A.K Anthony,
Union Minister for Defence,
South Block, New Delhi -11



Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

For Goan Video Clips
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Bosco D'Mello
2007-05-25 04:28:19 UTC
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But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought
BJP in Goa is not communal at all
I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP
think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?
But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.
RESPONSE: JoeGoaUK, you are not confused! As you have stated above - You
have the real picture of Goa since you are in Goa for over a year.

While you continue to work on your picture, do keep us updated.

- Bosco
JoeGoaUk
2007-05-24 12:11:23 UTC
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Is BJP really communal ?

As a kid, we always thought MGP or Lion (Shiv) or Maharastrawadi Gomantak Party belongs to
Marathas or Hindus so it got to be Communal. As we grow older, during Konkani Language
agitation 1987 etc, we had even more reasons to believe that MGP is really communal. We took
Marathi belongs to Hindus (MGP) and Konkani belongs to Christians. And hence there is a fight
between Hindus and Christians in the name of Konkani or official language of Goa.

After some years, we read in newspapers etc about the activities of Shiv Sena and BJP outside
Goa. At this time we said to ourselves, Shiv Sena is worst than MGP and BJP.

During election time those days, we knew some BJP (and Shiv Sena) candidates contesting for
Goa Assembly seats. We said there is no way these people win the election in Goa purely
because they are communal. But to our surprise, there were about 4 winning seats by the BJP.
And during the subsequent elections, the BJP strength rose to about 19 including some
Christian MLAs. At this time we hardly talked about the then communal party MGP as it?s
strength was reduced to a minimum. So, MGP gone out of our mind but BJP remained as communal
party now. I treated BJP as 100% communal mainly because of the happenings elsewhere in India.
BJP came to power in Goa around 2002, after seeing the development within the short period of
time etc , I thought may be BJP is communal only out side Goa . At this time I treated BJP as
50% communal. But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought BJP in Goa is not
communal at all but reading various reports and postings (including Goanet and other
yahoogroups etc ), I reluctantly treated BJP as 20% communal.

When I wrote to Parrikar then CM of Goa (Jan.2004) to do something about the forthcoming
Anjediva Island feast i.e. Feb2, he replied to me saying it was too late now (18 years old
matter) and nothing can be done now (see proof below).

Again, in late Jan. 2007, Parrikar being in the opposition, he wrote a letter to Godfrey
Gonsalves on the same Anjediva Island Feast matter saying.. the matter is now sent to Union
Defence Minister Shri AK Anthony (see proof below).

My question to Parrikar..
While you were the CM of Goa, you said it was too late..
And now that you are in the opposition, (matter is 21 years old now) suddenly you thought it
was not too late ?

At this time my treatment to BJP gone up from 20% to 60% communal.

But then again, after sometime, I realized that BJP as opportunist like any other parties
or politicians so I am back to 20%.

Today, after reading a news item in GT front page captioned ?BJP Scraps Taleigao Block? my
trust in BJP has shrunken again . It says ?face with rebellion against its official
candidate, the BJP yesterday dissolved its Taleigao Mandal Committee headed by Pradip
Nagvenkar citing the committee?s non-coopeation in the constituency for the june 2 goa Assemly
elections.?

Mr. Pradip Nagvenkar told GT that he is still with BJP and was opposed to party?s decision of
fielding a Christian candidate in Taleigao. He said that as a hardcore RSS activist aad
staunch proponent of the Hindutva philosophy he felt it was improper to work for Agnelo
Silveira as party?s candidate in Taleigao.

====

I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?


But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.


Cc to BJP


Quotes:

Letter I

Dear Group owner (Goan-NRI), I am in receipt of your email dated January 17, 2004. The
matter is 18 years old. Nothing can be done now. May please inform.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,
Manohar Parrikar
Chief Minister of Goa

==================


Letter II

Later, this writer was surprised to receive an email dated 2/2/2007 from the Leader of the
Opposition Mr Manohar Parrikar which read thus:

******************************************************

Dear Shri Gonsalves,

This is with reference to your email regarding " Nossa Senhora de Brotas " at Anjediv
island. In this regard, i have already sent your letter to Shri A.K. Anthony, Union
Minister for Defence, New Delhi for considering it favorably. The copy of the same is
attached herewith for your kind perusal.

With warm regards,

Yours sincerely, Manohar Parrikar
Leader of the Opposition

No. 1- 3-05/Lead. Of the opp.
Dated: 30th January, 2007

Sub: Permission for the Catholic Community to celebrate the Feast of ?Nossa Senhora de Brotas?
at Anjediv island on 2/02/07. Dear

I am enclosing herewith the representation from shri Godrey J I Gonsalves, on the subject
matter. Earlier as Chief Minister of the State, I had raised the Issue with Shri George
Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, without any outcome. I request you once again to look
into the matter and consider the same favourably.

Thanking you,

Yours (MANOHAR PARRIKAR)

To, Shri A.K Anthony,
Union Minister for Defence,
South Block, New Delhi -11



Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

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http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

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Bosco D'Mello
2007-05-25 04:28:19 UTC
Permalink
But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought
BJP in Goa is not communal at all
I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP
think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?
But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.
RESPONSE: JoeGoaUK, you are not confused! As you have stated above - You
have the real picture of Goa since you are in Goa for over a year.

While you continue to work on your picture, do keep us updated.

- Bosco
JoeGoaUk
2007-05-24 12:11:23 UTC
Permalink
Is BJP really communal ?

As a kid, we always thought MGP or Lion (Shiv) or Maharastrawadi Gomantak Party belongs to
Marathas or Hindus so it got to be Communal. As we grow older, during Konkani Language
agitation 1987 etc, we had even more reasons to believe that MGP is really communal. We took
Marathi belongs to Hindus (MGP) and Konkani belongs to Christians. And hence there is a fight
between Hindus and Christians in the name of Konkani or official language of Goa.

After some years, we read in newspapers etc about the activities of Shiv Sena and BJP outside
Goa. At this time we said to ourselves, Shiv Sena is worst than MGP and BJP.

During election time those days, we knew some BJP (and Shiv Sena) candidates contesting for
Goa Assembly seats. We said there is no way these people win the election in Goa purely
because they are communal. But to our surprise, there were about 4 winning seats by the BJP.
And during the subsequent elections, the BJP strength rose to about 19 including some
Christian MLAs. At this time we hardly talked about the then communal party MGP as it?s
strength was reduced to a minimum. So, MGP gone out of our mind but BJP remained as communal
party now. I treated BJP as 100% communal mainly because of the happenings elsewhere in India.
BJP came to power in Goa around 2002, after seeing the development within the short period of
time etc , I thought may be BJP is communal only out side Goa . At this time I treated BJP as
50% communal. But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought BJP in Goa is not
communal at all but reading various reports and postings (including Goanet and other
yahoogroups etc ), I reluctantly treated BJP as 20% communal.

When I wrote to Parrikar then CM of Goa (Jan.2004) to do something about the forthcoming
Anjediva Island feast i.e. Feb2, he replied to me saying it was too late now (18 years old
matter) and nothing can be done now (see proof below).

Again, in late Jan. 2007, Parrikar being in the opposition, he wrote a letter to Godfrey
Gonsalves on the same Anjediva Island Feast matter saying.. the matter is now sent to Union
Defence Minister Shri AK Anthony (see proof below).

My question to Parrikar..
While you were the CM of Goa, you said it was too late..
And now that you are in the opposition, (matter is 21 years old now) suddenly you thought it
was not too late ?

At this time my treatment to BJP gone up from 20% to 60% communal.

But then again, after sometime, I realized that BJP as opportunist like any other parties
or politicians so I am back to 20%.

Today, after reading a news item in GT front page captioned ?BJP Scraps Taleigao Block? my
trust in BJP has shrunken again . It says ?face with rebellion against its official
candidate, the BJP yesterday dissolved its Taleigao Mandal Committee headed by Pradip
Nagvenkar citing the committee?s non-coopeation in the constituency for the june 2 goa Assemly
elections.?

Mr. Pradip Nagvenkar told GT that he is still with BJP and was opposed to party?s decision of
fielding a Christian candidate in Taleigao. He said that as a hardcore RSS activist aad
staunch proponent of the Hindutva philosophy he felt it was improper to work for Agnelo
Silveira as party?s candidate in Taleigao.

====

I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?


But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.


Cc to BJP


Quotes:

Letter I

Dear Group owner (Goan-NRI), I am in receipt of your email dated January 17, 2004. The
matter is 18 years old. Nothing can be done now. May please inform.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,
Manohar Parrikar
Chief Minister of Goa

==================


Letter II

Later, this writer was surprised to receive an email dated 2/2/2007 from the Leader of the
Opposition Mr Manohar Parrikar which read thus:

******************************************************

Dear Shri Gonsalves,

This is with reference to your email regarding " Nossa Senhora de Brotas " at Anjediv
island. In this regard, i have already sent your letter to Shri A.K. Anthony, Union
Minister for Defence, New Delhi for considering it favorably. The copy of the same is
attached herewith for your kind perusal.

With warm regards,

Yours sincerely, Manohar Parrikar
Leader of the Opposition

No. 1- 3-05/Lead. Of the opp.
Dated: 30th January, 2007

Sub: Permission for the Catholic Community to celebrate the Feast of ?Nossa Senhora de Brotas?
at Anjediv island on 2/02/07. Dear

I am enclosing herewith the representation from shri Godrey J I Gonsalves, on the subject
matter. Earlier as Chief Minister of the State, I had raised the Issue with Shri George
Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, without any outcome. I request you once again to look
into the matter and consider the same favourably.

Thanking you,

Yours (MANOHAR PARRIKAR)

To, Shri A.K Anthony,
Union Minister for Defence,
South Block, New Delhi -11



Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk

for Goa & NRI related info...
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/

For Goan Video Clips
http://thisisgoa.com/




___________________________________________________________
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Bosco D'Mello
2007-05-25 04:28:19 UTC
Permalink
But after spending over a year in Goa, I really thought
BJP in Goa is not communal at all
I am really confused now. Do all people within the BJP
think likewise (Re. Pradip Nagvenkar) ?
But one thing is true..
To get a real picture of Goa, one has to be in Goa.
RESPONSE: JoeGoaUK, you are not confused! As you have stated above - You
have the real picture of Goa since you are in Goa for over a year.

While you continue to work on your picture, do keep us updated.

- Bosco

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